Official: Iran needs 500 passenger planes

[IR1907]

Iran needs to buy up to 500 passenger planes in the next 10 years to renovate its aging fleet, head of the country’s aviation organization says.

A number of plane manufactures have traveled to Iran over the past year, discussing possible agreements and assessing the market, Ali Reza Jahangirian said, without naming the airlines.

“Aircraft manufactures are seriously working to forge interaction with Iran and not fall behind in the race once the situation changes,” the head of the Iran Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) said.

The official said Iranian airlines are currently operating with a fleet of about 140 aircraft, which is “very lower than average international norms in terms of international indexes of population and area”.

“Over the past year, several aircraft manufactures repeatedly travelled to Iran and held discussions with the airlines and the organization (ICAO) in the area of assessment of the Iranian transportation market,” Jahangirian said.

The Iranian aviation industry is under US sanctions which have resulted in a series of aerial mishaps and deaths of hundreds of people.

Those sanctions, however, have not prevented Iranian airlines from keeping their fleet airworthy and Jahangirian said his organization’s revenues rose 60% last year.

A preliminary agreement between Iran and the P5+1 group of countries in November 2013 led to an easing of sanctions on the aviation sector.

Boeing entered into an agreement with Iran Air in 2014, which generated $120,000 in gross revenues, the American company said then.

The deal included sale of aircraft manuals, drawings and navigation charts as well as data to the Iranian flag carrier airline.

American engine manufacture General Electric has also received permission from the US government to sell spare parts to Iran.

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PressTV-Official: Iran needs 500 passenger planes

 

[BordoEnes]

Whenever Iran buys some foreign weapons im just gonna spam the shitt out that thread like "Iran is so underdeveloped that they cant produce product X and product Y" Like we have been hearing all these years. Just an heads up

 

[بلندر]

for sure we have to renovate our civil air planes but this kind of statement are just political one .... in fact we don't need 500 civil aircraft , hell even we need it , we couldn't buy 500 civil aircraft in 10 years ( we don't have enough money for it and I'm sure there is no aircraft producing company that can provided 500 air craft in 10 years )

this is just a political move from Rouhani Party with simple logic -> we need aircraft -> we can't build it -> we have to buy it -> west won't sell it to us -> we have to negotiation with west -> we have to accept their(the west) terms

 

[kollang]

for sure we have to renovate our civil air planes but this kind of statement are just political one .... in fact we don't need 500 civil aircraft , hell even we need it , we couldn't buy 500 civil aircraft in 10 years ( we don't have enough money for it and I'm sure there is no aircraft producing company that can provided 500 air craft in 10 years )

this is just a political move from Rouhani Party with simple logic -> we need aircraft -> we can't build it -> we have to buy it -> west won't sell it to us -> we have to negotiation with west -> we have to accept their(the west) terms

bro,with due all respect I disagree with you.Last year, Emirate, Qatar and Etihad airways, each ordered 100 to 200 giant aircrafts.just few weeks ago rayan air, an Irish air line ordered 100 B 737 Max9s that each costs 110 milion $.in total 11 billion dollar! of course they are not going to pay it all in one night.we have sth called "qest".and for your notice Airbus/boeing factories have the capacity to produce 50 a-320/b-737 per month.thats too much!

We have three major airlines, Iran air, Mahan and Aseman.they are very thirsty for more planes.each could order 100 to 200 air planes and delievery would start in a few years and it will last for couple of years.at the same time they will earn money and pay it back.we are an oil rich country for God's sake.

@Marksus is a racist guy with a high deal of arrogance, but I am sure he confirms my words.

 

[Abii]

bro,with due all respect I disagree with you.Last year, Emirate, Qatar and Etihad airways, each ordered 100 to 200 giant aircrafts.just few weeks ago rayan air, an Irish air line ordered 100 B 737 Max9s that each costs 110 milion $.in total 11 billion dollar! of course they are not going to pay it all in one night.we have sth called "qest".and for your notice Airbus/boeing factories have the capacity to produce 50 a-320/b-737 per month.thats too much!

We have three major airlines, Iran air, Mahan and Aseman.they are very thirsty for more planes.each could order 100 to 200 air planes and delievery would start in a few years and it will last for couple of years.at the same time they will earn money and pay it back.we are an oil rich country for God's sake.

@Marksus is a racist guy with a high deal of arrogance, but I am sure he confirms my words.

Let's do some math here. You say 11 billion USD for 100 aircrafts. That's 55 billion USD for 500.

However, you forgot to add in the cost of additional infrastructure that also need upgrading in Iran. Maintenance facilities and equipment, training programs for all pilots and maintenance crews, new hangars, new support vehicles, upgrades to airports and finally new parts manufacturers in either Iran or the cost to directly purchase parts from overseas. What's the cost of all that? 10 billion? 20?

Let's say 65 billion in total. Who's gonna give you that loan? Iran's credit is awful, even when sanction are removed. Do you know what the service cost on such a loan will be with a bad credit rating, even if you manage to get a massive loan like this? A 65 billion dollar loan with a high interest will be ridiculously expensive.

Just b/c Iran produces oil, it doesn't mean Iran has money. Nigeria also produces oil and it's a dirt poor 3rd world country. They actually have exported more than Iran has in recent years. Iran doesn't have the money for 500 jets. The economy has to be fixed, sanctions have to be removed and 10-15 years need to go by before Iran can start dreaming about buying so many jets. Maybe 10-20 new jets a year at the best case scenario for now.

 

[rmi5]

500 aircrafts?!!! Kodoum official e khari in harf ra zadeh? I guess that official has mistaken aircrafts with cabs Aslan mageh foroudgaah haye Iran jaa baraaye in hame havaapeyma daareh?!!!

 

[Serpentine]

500 aircrafts?!!! Kodoum official e khari in harf ra zadeh? I guess that official has mistaken aircrafts with cabs Aslan mageh foroudgaah haye Iran jaa baraaye in hame havaapeyma daareh?!!!

A small country like UAE has 335 aircraft. Considering that they barely have any domestic flights since the country is very small. While Iran needs a big fleet only for domestic use, let alone foreign use.

Turkey's fleet is also higher than 500. So I don't think 500 planes (all variants) is anything significant.

 

[rmi5]

A small country like UAE has 335 aircraft. Considering that they barely have any domestic flights since the country is very small. While Iran needs a big fleet only for domestic use, let alone foreign use.

Turkey's fleet is also higher than 500. So I don't think 500 planes (all variants) is anything significant.

Both Emirates and Turkish airlines are some of the biggest airlines of the world, which have achieved this amount of aircrafts/flights after many years. Still Emirates has less than 500 aircrafts. Iran simply will not need that number of aircrafts even for the next 10 years!!!

 

[kollang]

500 aircrafts?!!! Kodoum official e khari in harf ra zadeh? I guess that official has mistaken aircrafts with cabs Aslan mageh foroudgaah haye Iran jaa baraaye in hame havaapeyma daareh?!!!

Rayan air which is an Irish airline is going to have 550 airplanes by 2022.also second and third phase of IK airport will be ready in few years if there is a growing demand for that.

Guys, aviation is such a profiting business.500 airplane is too much but in a 10 years period it is doable.

@Abii azizam,firstly, Iranian government is not going to pay the whole money since not all airlines I mentioned are government owned, secondly 65 bilion dollars will be paid in 10 years period or even more.thirdly we have lots of blocked money in western banks.Iran surely can afford to buy this amount of money.

Also comparing Nigeria with Iran is so foolish.

 

[Serpentine]

Both Emirates and Turkish airlines are some of the biggest airlines of the world, which have achieved this amount of aircrafts/flights after many years. Still Emirates has less than 500 aircrafts. Iran simply will not need that number of aircrafts even for the next 10 years!!!

Iran has potential to absorb nearly 20 million tourists each year after next 5 years. Adding that to number of domestic and international flight, I still believe 500 is not too much. UAE doesn't have domestic flights or it's just too little to count.

Don't forget that many of these current fleet must be replaced.

 

[rmi5]

Rayan air which is an Irish airline is going to have 550 airplanes by 2022.also second and third phase of IK airport will be ready in few years if there is a growing demand for that.

Guys, aviation is such a profiting business.500 airplane is too much but in a 10 years period it is doable.

@Abii azizam,firstly, Iranian government is not going to pay the whole money since not all airlines I mentioned are government owned, secondly 65 bilion dollars will be paid in 10 years period or even more.thirdly we have lots of blocked money in western banks.Iran surely can afford to buy this amount of money.

Also comparing Nigeria with Iran is so foolish.

Dear kollang, Delta which is the biggest airlines of the US and the world, operates 700-800 aircrafts. So, how this Irish airlines(that I have no idea about it) or Iran Air are going to operate 500 aircrafts is a big question mark for me. Let alone the financial issues apart. Unless Iran Air is going to enter international market which it will need expensive large aircrafts like dreamliner. one dreamliner, costs close to 300 million dollars, which it is just the initial cost. You need to double or triple of this amount for trainings, maintenance, investing on local airports, ... This cost is simply not affordable for Iran even in 10 years.

 

[SHAMK9]

Iran air can use some brand new 777's.

 

[rmi5]

Iran has potential to absorb nearly 20 million tourists each year after next 5 years. Adding that to number of domestic and international flight, I still believe 500 is not too much. UAE doesn't have domestic flights or it's just too little to count.

Don't forget that many of these current fleet must be replaced.

20 million tourists?!!! Seriously?!!! why should 20 million tourists visit Iran? Actually, there are annually just 1 million Iranians living abroad and about 1 million shiite Iraqis/Saudis who visit Iran, and not even all of them use aircrafts.

 

[Abii]

Iran has potential to absorb nearly 20 million tourists each year after next 5 years. Adding that to number of domestic and international flight, I still believe 500 is not too much. UAE doesn't have domestic flights or it's just too little to count.

Don't forget that many of these current fleet must be replaced.

Baba what planet are you living on? Iran and Saudi have the same image as Mordor around the world. Who the hell wants to come to Iran other than Iraqi and Afghan shias going to Mashhad and Qom??? 99% of people would rather spend their hard end money in Turkey or India or... if they want to come to Asia. Those Iraqi and Afghan shias will take the bus btw. So who's left?

Iran doesn't have any use for 500 planes period. The money is also not there and neither is the infrastructure. Emirates Airlines and Turkish Airlines are two of the world's best airlines and they're two of the world's busiest. Comparing them with Mordor Airlines is stupid.

 

[Serpentine]

20 million tourists?!!! Seriously?!!! why should 20 million tourists visit Iran? Actually, there are annually just 1 million Iranians living abroad and about 1 million shiite Iraqis/Saudis who visit Iran, and not even all of them use aircrafts.

and @Abii
Actually 4 millions visit, but that's not my point. I said there is the 'potential', and yes there is certainly the potential, doesn't mean it will certainly happen in reality.

Anyways, talking about that 500 number is meaningless for now, first we should replace current aircrafts, most of them, if there was the need for buying more, we'll buy, if there wasn't the need, we won't buy. It's not like Iran has already signed the contracts.