Official: Iran needs 500 passenger planes

[IR-TR]

every where and every field we need investment. tourism in compare to our others potentials(except oild and gas) is something that we can earn billions easy and we can make it in a few years.

True. And that's the beauty of it. Large parts will be FOREIGN investment, as in FDI. We don't have to pay it all ourselves. Damn, even Turkey will invest a ton. Just think about construction, housing, infrastructure. As they say, Iran is the last big frontier. Every ingredient present, just sanctioned into oblivion. A spokesman of the US Iranian chamber of commerce said: Iran has the oil of Saudi Arabia, the gas of Russia, the minerals of Australia and the population of Turkey. And very highly educated at that. Well, I guess we're golden unless it is horribly mismanaged or war breaks out.

 

[xenon54 out]

Tourism contributes about 30bn a year to Turkey's economy. That's about 30 million tourists. Turkey has a PPP GDP of over a trillion. Tourism isn't all that important. Iran has lots of energy, and a starved (from investment) population of 80 million. Meaning there is plenty of growth in aviation, regardless of tourism.

Beach Tourism is basically the worst kind of tourism, most of these tourists are people who cant afford expensive holidays so they go to all inclusive hotels including flight ticket, they eat, drink and party in the hotel and barely go shoping.

Thankfully we have also a good amount of City tourism in Istanbul which is clearly more profitable, since Turkish series went popular in ME Arab trousists are overrunning Istanbul and they spend at least 4-5 times more in Shopping centers than Europeans in Antalya.

Also there is a good amount of backpacker tourists in Cappadocia with a good amount from Asian countries such as Japan and Korea.

You can split the tourist groups in Turkey such as:

Beach Tourists = Europeans, Russians, Baltic states
City tourists = Europeans, Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Americans
Backpackers = Japanese, Koreans, Europeans



So there is two options for Iran to increase tourism, either with all inclusive beach resorts which is a very bad sector or Cultural tourism.

Either way mass tourism such as in Turkey where basically tourist numbers as big as half of countries population need very serious infrastructural investments, Istanbul has two international airports (30M and 20M capacity) but its handling about 90 million passengers annually and they already stated to build a third one with 150 million capacity.
Now first try to imagine those numbers, even thought many of the passangers will take the next plane and fly somewhere else most will use a street or public transportation to arrive their destination so you need to invest in those too, thats investment in hundrets of billions just for the state, adding to that that you also need private investors for hotels and such stuff, it isnt a easy task and wont be cheap either.
So just buying 500 planes wont make tourist come you also need to offer them some sevice and infrastructure.

But before discussing all those, just as mentioned above, the domestic laws and rules would prevent most tourists to come to Iran in the first place.
Tourism isnt the most profitable sector for sure but its a huge inverstment in PR so i wont rule it out too quickly.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Well sometimes when @Abii describe the situation I wonder which country he is talking about.
It's right that there are a lot of moron here but the situation never is like what Abii describe.

 

[nForce]

Boeing entered into an agreement with Iran Air in 2014, which generated $120,000 in gross revenues, the American company said then.

American engine manufacture General Electric has also received permission from the US government to sell spare parts to Iran.

lol.. These American companies have no problem in bending the rules of their so-called sanctions when it comes to their own profit. Also, they make it sound like they are doing some kind of favour to Iran.
But, when we trade, they have a big issue with that.

 

[Azeri440]

bro,with due all respect I disagree with you.Last year, Emirate, Qatar and Etihad airways, each ordered 100 to 200 giant aircrafts.just few weeks ago rayan air, an Irish air line ordered 100 B 737 Max9s that each costs 110 milion $.in total 11 billion dollar! of course they are not going to pay it all in one night.we have sth called "qest".and for your notice Airbus/boeing factories have the capacity to produce 50 a-320/b-737 per month.thats too much!

We have three major airlines, Iran air, Mahan and Aseman.they are very thirsty for more planes.each could order 100 to 200 air planes and delievery would start in a few years and it will last for couple of years.at the same time they will earn money and pay it back.we are an oil rich country for God's sake.

@Marksus is a racist guy with a high deal of arrogance, but I am sure he confirms my words.

I wish it was that simple , just to put it in perspective Azerbaijan bought 3 747s which amounted to a total cost of 1.1 bil
once you count in the logistics and etc. it adds up a massive amount.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Whenever Iran buys some foreign weapons im just gonna spam the shitt out that thread like "Iran is so underdeveloped that they cant produce product X and product Y" Like we have been hearing all these years. Just an heads up

Why would you do that? Are you jealous of Iran?

Truth is, Iran has done a lot under the circumstances.

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@Marksus is a racist guy with a high deal of arrogance, but I am sure he confirms my words.

Marcus needs an azz-whooping. He won't stop his racism, so he needs someone trace where he is at and seriously give him the kind of a(ss)-beating that he so desire.

I've never been to Iran but a Chinese friend of mine working on Tehran Metro project speaks highly of the city (and other places of Iran) after spending some years there. After the sanction is lifted, it's time to invite tourists from around the world to see the beauty of Iran and Persia!

Spot on. Ignore Abii. He's gotten a vendetta against the establishment.I have Iranian colleagues, actually engineers, who have actually moved back to Iran after they compare life in the West and the one in Iran.

 

[Shotgunner51]

He went there for work, not as a tourist with his gf to sit beside a beach and drink Coronas all day. Thanks for being polite, but you're border line brown nosing here. You're not adding value to the discussion. I'd gladly go and work in Saudi for Aramco. But I would have to be insane to go there as a tourist.

If you prefer then forgive me for being blunt here, Iran being an ancient civilization should have plenty of tourist attractions, so what's stopping the country from becoming a top destination? Why Egypt can achieve in this arena, while Iran can't?

Spot on. Ignore Abii. He's gotten a vendetta against the establishment.I have Iranian colleagues, actually engineers, who have actually moved back to Iran after they compare life in the West and the one in Iran.

Thanks. Either way Iran is becoming a fashionable topic here in China. AIIB, metro expansions, oil, gas line to Pakistan, 5 new nuclear plants ... other than business trips I believe people here would want more alternatives in planning their holidays as well.

China to Build New Nuke Plants in Iran

 

[Beast]

HSR looks more suitable for Iran than lots of planes. Iran is not as big as india.

 

[BordoEnes]

Why would you do that? Are you jealous of Iran?

Truth is, Iran has done a lot under the circumstances.



Marcus needs an azz-whooping. He won't stop his racism, so he needs someone trace where he is at and seriously give him the kind of a(ss)-beating that he so desire.



Spot on. Ignore Abii. He's gotten a vendetta against the establishment.I have Iranian colleagues, actually engineers, who have actually moved back to Iran after they compare life in the West and the one in Iran.

Not really, its because we have been hearing their bullshitt for years now. Felt like giving a piece of their own cake

 

[Shotgunner51]

HSR looks more suitable for Iran than lots of planes. Iran is not as big as india.

Iran is 1.65 million sqm in size, and has GDP per capita like 3 times of India, very suitable for HSR. The governments of Iran, China as well as other neighboring countries have been looking into this for a while.

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@AndrewJin

 

[AndrewJin]

Iran is 1.65 million sqm in size, and has GDP per capita like 3 times of India, very suitable for HSR. The governments of Iran, China as well as other neighboring countries have been looking into this for a while.

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@AndrewJin

Yes. Iran has more fiscal capacity to run an HSR network than India. HSR needs organized railway technicians with strong work ethics, Iran is very capable. I think HSR in Iran will be earlier than India's diamond quadrilateral network in operation.

 

[Beast]

Yes. Iran has more fiscal capacity to run an HSR network than India. HSR needs organized railway technicians with strong work ethics, Iran is very capable. I think HSR in Iran will be earlier than India's diamond quadrilateral network in operation.

China needs to quickly offer them the HSR deal before they spend the money on 500 European or American aircraft.

 

[AndrewJin]

China needs to quickly offer them the HSR deal before they spend the money on 500 European or American aircraft.

I just don't get it why a lot of people fancy those uncomfortable small-space economy class. I love HSR's punctuality, coziness, convenience and safety. And for most cases HSR tickets in China are much cheaper than discounted flight tickets.
@Beast Yesterday I took a first-class in bullet train. (mostly I choose second class), 359km/2 hours only 126yuan(1st class), much cheaper than coach(150yuan, 400km/6 hours if no traffic jams on the expressway)

 

[Oldman1]

Buy the next gen 737 that covers all of Iran as well as going to Europe, Africa and Asia easily. Its cheaper and easier to maintain than bigger aircraft. And you can get all 500 within a year.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Iran air can use some brand new 777's.

I certainly hope we don't go after those plane , we simply don't have the facility to maintain them.

Buy the next gen 737 that covers all of Iran as well as going to Europe, Africa and Asia easily. Its cheaper and easier to maintain than bigger aircraft. And you can get all 500 within a year.

Well the are other alternatives. I hope they look for all alternatives before deciding to choose one of them.