OFFICIAL INVITATION OF IDEAS 2016 HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO CZECH REPUBLIC

[That Guy]

If anything, CZ has full rights over re-exporting the entire BREN rifle catalogue, including technology transfer, IP and commercial rights to POF. FN might need to work on pulling a few strings and finding workarounds since the SCAR was developed with U.S. input. It is doable for FN, but it'll probably end up costing Pakistan more compared to CZ.

That said, FN has a working battle rifle, i.e. SCAR H. If CZ wants to firmly win over PA, it would need to actually have the battle rifle variant of the BREN 805 (i.e. BREN B1 or B2) ready for testing. In this case you're completely dealing with an unproven weapon. On the other hand, CZ might be more flexible in terms of ToT and commercial licensing to POF, especially since they're basically asking PA to test their unproven rifle in combat.

At first, I was sure that it was a done deal, that the competition was only a formality and FN had practically won the contract, but the more I read and think, maybe that's not the case anymore.

CZ has shown it's willingness to deal with PA in a complete and transparent manner, especially considering that a PA order would be a massive win for the company. What you've posted just goes to prove this point further.

FN? I'm not so sure they're the clear winners anymore. Not only would a CZ option be cheaper, but it would be a lot easier to deal with. IF CZ can offer both a heavy 7.62 caliber and a 5.56 caliber, why shouldn't PA go for CZ? It actually makes a lot of sense.

 

[Immanuel]

The CZ failed trials in India, makes no sense for Pak to get it

 

[Quwa]

At first, I was sure that it was a done deal, that the competition was only a formality and FN had practically won the contract, but the more I read and think, maybe that's not the case anymore.

CZ has shown it's willingness to deal with PA in a complete and transparent manner, especially considering that a PA order would be a massive win for the company. What you've posted just goes to prove this point further.

FN? I'm not so sure they're the clear winners anymore. Not only would a CZ option be cheaper, but it would be a lot easier to deal with. IF CZ can offer both a heavy 7.62 caliber and a 5.56 caliber, why shouldn't PA go for CZ? It actually makes a lot of sense.

I don't think the CZ BREN 805 is going to make it compared to the SCAR-series, but the BREN 806 could have a shot. Its success will depend on time: CZ will need some time to roll out 7.62x39 and 7.62x51, and the PA will need time to thoroughly put them to the test. In order to get that opportunity, CZ would need to offer a very good deal.

From what I've read and seen about the BREN 805, it is a good rifle. It has great fundamentals and potential, but there are various shortcomings in the design and performance. The 806 is said to be a vast improvement, and it is now the standard issue rifle of the Czech Army.

I agree with you. I think CZ has a real shot here. Again, it's going to depend on the performance of the 806-series, which hasn't given given to the Army yet. Moreover, there are no 7.62 versions of the 806 yet, but I think we'll see an official debut in IDEAS 2016. But CZ can come in cheaper. They'll come in more flexible in terms of technology IP and commercial rights transfers. If we can get the latter, then we could even begin paying off the cost of acquiring the CZ through commercial sales.