Not Shinkansen ? India plans high-speed rail project with China

[Guynextdoor2]

That's what I am saying. You deserve a Japan tech.

I agree, we deserve it

 

[Aepsilons]

The Bombay-Ahmedabad rail corridor is one of country's busiest. I expect a lot of businesses in the region to grow, as more and more same-day return business trips are made, much faster. I for sure as hell would use HSR over what I think is the slightly more inconvenient option i.e intercity flights.

Precisely. With the development of a Bombay-Ahmedabad HSR system, expect the infrastructure of these two regions to increase. To accommodate the HSR advanced technology, of course.

I predict a massive infrastructure boom in India afterwards. The same intensity as the one that has been seen in China this past decade.

Oh the potential....!

 

[Aepsilons]

That's what I am saying. You deserve a Japan tech.

India deserves what is the best for India, and the one that profits her the most in the longterm.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Hypothetically speaking, let's say this HSR will be built in India (doesn't matter if its Japanese or Chinese technology). Do you think the Indian public will take advantage of this wonderful tech? Will you guys use it?

@he-man , @anant_s , @DRAY , @levina , @nair , @Ravi Nair , @scorpionx, @SpArK et al.

These are large long term infra impact projects, so yes. We'll have to build and expand for several decades so the emphasis will be on long term tech collaboration, local production and skills transfer so that the project can continue unhindered for decades.

 

[anant_s]

India deserves what is the best for India, and the one that profits her the most in the longterm.

With not even a single accident in almost 50 years of operation (since 1964, when first Bullet trains were introduced), speaks for itself. yes it doesnot rival Maglevs in speed, but that is an entirely different technology and not suitable for really long distance travels.
Shinkansen is World's best, & i won't complaint if our country gets the world's best

Different generations of JR's bullet trains at Niigata, Japan.

 

[Aepsilons]

With not even a single accident in almost 50 years of operation (since 1964, when first Bullet trains were introduced), speaks for itself. yes it doesnot rival Maglevs in speed, but that is an entirely different technology and not suitable for really long distance travels.
Shinkansen is World's best, & i won't complaint if our country gets the world's best
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Different generations of JR's bullet trains at Niigata, Japan.

 

[dray]

Hypothetically speaking, let's say this HSR will be built in India (doesn't matter if its Japanese or Chinese technology). Do you think the Indian public will take advantage of this wonderful tech? Will you guys use it?

@he-man , @anant_s , @DRAY , @levina , @nair , @Ravi Nair , @scorpionx, @SpArK et al.

Why not? But the technology must be reliable with long proven track record of safety, like the Japanese or French systems, I don't mind paying some extra for it, life is far more valuable than money. I don't even use mobile phones of cheaper chinese brands because of their high/unknown SAR value.

 

[cnleio]

Double post

 

[cnleio]

There is nothing wrong in taking Chinese help to build high speed railways. Where you are mistaken is that all the engineers will be Chinese. You will need to tie-up with an Indian partner. Somebody like an L&T or Reliance to take forward the project. They have the expertise to turn something around like this. While Chinese engineers will be involved, I do not see them being involved the same way they would in Africa.

LOL ... where the China projects is, there will be Chinese companies / workers / engineers ... this building tradition won't change in India too. If done, just watch Chinese coming to India.

 

[cnleio]

I'm sorry if your trains break down the way the pak locos did then it's actually more expensive for us.

Im sorry that's why India need China building HSR, coz ur locomotive run slowly & easily break down in old railway.

 

[cnleio]

Double post

 

[cnleio]

High speed rail is not that much of a technical leap for us. It's a new field where we'll get training on the manifacturing side. The model will be that of Metro projects we're running (like with Bombardier) . We'll have a JV with BEML which will train engineers in China and jointly set up production facilities. Like Bombardier The Chinese engineers might be there for technical help until the full plant operations are established. The civil engineering will be entirely Indian from start to finish (majority of the 32 B will go there). In the end the production will have to move to 100% Indian like we did for Bombardier- even the head is an Indian. In any case this'll go to the Japs coz they're more mature in this.

'Made in India' Metro rolls out - Economic Times

We do not care what India have, just prepare 32billion USD then Chinese will take it to pay ur HSR project.

 

[cnleio]

With not even a single accident in almost 50 years of operation (since 1964, when first Bullet trains were introduced), speaks for itself. yes it doesnot rival Maglevs in speed, but that is an entirely different technology and not suitable for really long distance travels.
Shinkansen is World's best, & i won't complaint if our country gets the world's best
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LOL ... when u see pics of 2005.04.30 Shinkansen incident killed 107 passangers in Japan, This world no any 100% safe high-speed train, all killed dozens of ppl in different HSR incidents ...

 

[dray]

@cnleio Double posts count as two different posts there? If not, then delete one of those double posts.

 

[surya kiran]

LOL ... where the China projects is, there will be Chinese companies / workers / engineers ... this building tradition won't change in India too. If done, just watch Chinese coming to India.

Well here is the thing. Whichever company comes they have to follow Indian rules. Same applies to Chinese companies. Tender requirements will state the same. Now if Japanese and German companies follow the rules, Chinese company refuses, even though their quotation is lower they will be disqualified.

You also need to realise, that Indian companies if they find Chinese engineers to be good will poach them. This will help build internal capability. So, its a two way street.

Btw, I am all for more investment from the Chinese companies in India. Will be disappointed if they do not follow tender rules.