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North Korean Stand Off With the US & S.Korea: News and Updates

Perhaps they would be willing to acept a Chinese controlled NK with free border crossing?

The pluses you dont have a lunatic with nuclear toys threatening to kill you every morning, you relatives in the north arent starved to death or sent to gulags when they dont cry hard enough at a glorious leaders death.

Thing is the story is over we can argue and offer half baked scenarios the fat lady has sung so to speak. The north has been able to act like a 2year old on the floor of the sweet isle in a super market for years because China and Russia were willing to put up with the tantrums. Now China has told the north to pull its head in Putin was a little more blunt pointing out he doesnt want a nuclear wasteland on his border.

North Korea can back down or cease to exist

The problem with that solution is that NK would just start hating us instead. Not to mention the additional responsibility on our shoulders.

It would be the easiest I think just to buy out the top NK leadership and get them to relax a bit more.
 
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NKorea is already China's responsability. Invade it, pay yourself with their resources... then give it to SKorea.
 
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Will China Put An End To The Korean Crisis?

Chairman Mao always used to say China and North Korea were "as close as lips and teeth".*

Two communist countries with a shared border and shared ideology - one preparing to take over as the world’s superpower, the other like an errant and deranged relative threatening to start a nuclear war.

The US Secretary of State is in China after discussing the crisis on the Korean Peninsula with President Park of South Korea.

That was the reassurance leg of the trip when Mr Kerry metaphorically thumped the lectern and pledged to keep his allies in the region safe.

But it’s the China visit which is the absolutely crucial part of this Asia tour.

Mr Kerry believes China has the power and the influence to end this crisis. And he’s made it clear if China wants to be a respected member of the world club of top nations, it has a responsibility to use its power wisely. But it’s not that simple.

China has always steered well clear of public displays of interference in other country’s internal affairs. Just look at its abject refusal to support any meaningful UN action over the Syrian crisis.

It's a policy based on the simple notion that it doesn’t want anyone else to get involved in what goes on in its own backyard.**

But China does not want instability on its doorstep. If there’s a war North Korea will lose. If North Korea collapses there are a plethora of spectacular scenarios, not least the prospect of China’s People’s Liberation Army marching over the border and occupying the vacuum.

As things stand North Korea provides a convenient buffer between China and South Korea.

For South Korea China reads America. China doesn’t want to get into conflict with America. It’s too busy driving forward its capitalism with Chinese characteristics.

China’s economy must boom if the Communist Party is to stay in power.

So - it suits China to deflate this crisis. China supported the UN resolution passed on March 7 by the Security Council which sanctioned North Korea.

China props up North Korea and there are plenty of economic reasons why Kim Jong Un has to listen.

China cannot make North Korea back down but its become clear that China’s patience is running thin.

There was an unusually public critical and cryptic message from China’s new President Xi Jinping when he said "no one should be allowed to throw a region and even the whole world into chaos for selfish gain".

He was obviously talking about Mr Kim and North Korea. China’s foreign minister has also said China would not allow "trouble-making on its doorstep".

Clearly those lips and teeth are not quite as close as they were. More like lips and ears. The question is whether Mr Kim is prepared to listen to the warnings of its big brother.
 
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The Chosun Ilbo (English Edition): Daily News from Korea - Mao's Grandson Calls on N.Korea to Abandon Nukes

Mao Xinyu, the only grandson of Mao Zedong and a major general in China's People's Liberation Army, has clled on North Korea to abandon its nuclear ambitions.

"North Korea must go towards denuclearization and peaceful development" the state-run Xinhua news agency quoted Mao as saying on Tuesday. He added that denuclearization in North Korea "is a cherished wish of the Chinese people."

Mao is an outspoken member of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference.

A diplomatic source in Beijing said, "The fact that Mao Xinyu, a prominent figure among the children and relatives of the Chinese revolutionaries, mentioned denuclearization of North Korea reflects the very high level of frustration among Chinese people about North Korea's third nuclear test."

China's next leader Xi Jinping is also one of the so-called "princelings" in that group.

Mao Xinyu is the only son of the Great Helmsman's second son Anqing. Some 24 princelings are part of the 2,237-member Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, a political advisory body intended to represent a wider range of opinions than the Communist Party.
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Respect to Mao Xinyu. Kim Jong Un could learn from him
 
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NKorea is already China's responsability. Invade it, pay yourself with their resources... then give it to SKorea.

Why not go invade it yourself tough Canadian? You guys love to tell tales of your involvement liberating Europeans during WW2, time to show off your powers and unite the two Koreas yourself.
 
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Yeah...We 'pull back' to give a brat room to vent his childishness and to establish his rule over a crappy country. But do you really believe we cannot give this brat a spanking he needs?


North Korea is already an economic burden on China and China is currently undergoing economic reforms. To annex a territory is to accept all responsibilities and duties regarding that territory and that includes economy. How long will it take for the new territory to be a positive contributor to China? This talk of annexation is nothing but fantasy.

Indeed the talk from certain parties about China occupying North Korea is high fantasy unless SHTF in a big way. It certainly is not China's first choice, or even third.

This goes for everyone...even South Korea for the most part.

No one wants to take responsibility for the absolute mess that is North Korea.
 
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Seems like the fat boy from North Korea runs out of empty threats. Next time he menaces the world with bogus nuclear strikes, I hope Japan, SK and the US would just take it seriously (although the rest of the world are laughing), and bomb this annoying country for good.
 
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Why not go invade it yourself tough Canadian? You guys love to tell tales of your involvement liberating Europeans during WW2, time to show off your powers and unite the two Koreas yourself.
Because invading from the South would mean Seoul get blasted to hell with all the artillery pieces the North got zeroed in.

Invade it from the North and NKorea won't have any defenses. Pyongyang is only 160km from the border. UN could provide air cover for Chinese troops.

NKorea is a third world cesspool run by a bunch of sickos, much like Nazi Germany... the regime needs to end.
 
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The problem with that solution is that NK would just start hating us instead. Not to mention the additional responsibility on our shoulders.

It would be the easiest I think just to buy out the top NK leadership and get them to relax a bit more.

I thought that had been the policy so far? China has been keeping NK aflot with all sorts of support, treating the Dictator of a starving basket case as an equal on state visits. The problem with giving a child a sweet to calm them every time they throw a tantrum is it starts taking more and more sweets and you get more and more tantrums.

"Buying them out" so to speak is only a short term measure, next year they will want a bigger bribe after 50 years of carrot and stick diplomacy where no one has been prepareded to use the stick. If the US the South or Japan try there is the possibility of conflict. If China does there is far less chance of a military response.

Fatty and Co. have been for years allowed with considerable autonomy to run what is in effect a Chinese client state in the way they chose, China has considerable experience in dealing with "princelings" time to deal with one more.

Sadly the responsibility will be China's no matter what the out come, total collapse of NK china is just a river away better a managed reform than a human tsunami.
 
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Personally, I'm sorry, but I just don't care about North Korea either way. Whether it fires missiles or not is simply irrelevant to me.
 
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I thought that had been the policy so far? China has been keeping NK aflot with all sorts of support, treating the Dictator of a starving basket case as an equal on state visits. The problem with giving a child a sweet to calm them every time they throw a tantrum is it starts taking more and more sweets and you get more and more tantrums.

Apparently not.

We have told them a thousand times to stop destabilizing the region, to come to to the talks, to avoid nuclearization, etc. They went against us every time, does that sound like a client state to you?

Fatty and Co. has turned into an uncontrollable Fatty.

Sadly the responsibility will be China's no matter what the out come, total collapse of NK china is just a river away better a managed reform than a human tsunami.

If any country can has the organizational skills required to handle that situation, it is us.

South Korea has the bigger problem, since they will find it hard to stomach tough measures against North Korean refugees who are still their Korean brothers.
 
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Apparently not.

We have told them a thousand times to stop destabilizing the region, to come to to the talks, to avoid nuclearization, etc. They went against us every time, does that sound like a client state to you?
Half hearted measures more intent on creating the impression of 'working' for a solution than truly working on the problem. China controls how much energy and food North Korea have. Literally. So exercise that leash.
 
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i think us and china should just let north and south korea go at it one on one and whoever wins gets reunification.... usa and china etc just sit back and watch as korea sorts out its issues.
 
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i think us and china should just let north and south korea go at it one on one and whoever wins gets reunification.... usa and china etc just sit back and watch as korea sorts out its issues.
The US will not allow this new Korean conflict to go nuclear. Would China agree to this demand?
 
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Something might be happening.

portrait of father of the nation is missing from a prominent building in the central square. It's his birthday today.

Photo by newsjean &bull; Instagram <<< click it

Should have been under the flag. Like here:

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Rumours on Chinese social websites about a coup. Chinese authorities are removing the comments.
 
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