North Korea ready to use nukes against the United States: Kim Jong Un

[Foinikas]

as Ukraine is showing, strong morale + numbers + ATGMs and artillery + cover and concealment make any ground advance difficult, even for a country with a vast superiority in conventional arms.

North Korea's terrain is 100x more difficult than Ukraine's. unlike Ukraine which has large swaths of fields and grasslands, North Korea is 80% mountainous forest. It has 1 million troops under arms. It is swimming in artillery and ATGMs.

biggest difference: unlike Ukraine, which is not a NATO member, China has a collective defense treaty with North Korea.

Ukraine received a massive amount of modern AT weapons,artillery,small arms and UCAVs by other countries. Even their own indigenous AT weapons are better than North Korea's.

And they even had better Air Defence than North Korea. Even their armored vehicles are far better than anything the North Korean's have.

 

[Viet]

The Last time when Koreans were fighting a civil war without foreign interventions, troops of south Korea mass surrendered to the north. South Vietnam was better equipped with US weapons and trainings, they still lost their civil war sooner than anyone expected. Communists are die hard fighters, ask Indians, their government has been fighting Maoists for almost a century, still can't manage a decisive win.

What’s about the communist defeat of USSR in Afghanistan? Communist defeat of Stone Age communist Cambodia against Vietnam? The total collapse of communist bloc in East Europe?
Wining a war is not about communist or not communist. More to do who has more Iq.
Unless Ccp can feed the entire North Korea army they will run hungry to war.

 

[beijingwalker]

What’s about the communist defeat of USSR in Afghanistan? Communist defeat of Stone Age communist Cambodia against Vietnam? The total collapse of communist bloc in East Europe?
Wining a war is not about communist or not communist. More to do who has more Iq.
Unless Ccp can feed the entire North Korea army they will run hungry to war.

We don't have to listen to others, CCP was once a ragtag guerilla rables itself, but they still managed to kick KMT out to Taiwan. and I thought we are talkinga about countries CIVIL WARS

 

[Abid123]

It's not a communist propaganda show either

LOL. Where did I mention "communist propoganda"?

Your statement about South Korea being able to "smash" North Korea in a conventional war is ridiculous and laughable. Shows how ill informed you are. Also stop using Saddam Hussein argument like "4th largest military in the world". North Korea is not Iraq. I have seen you use it dozen of times in other threads. It is almost like you have no other argument.

This is not call of duty. You cant just compare numbers. War is more complex than just that. There are only 2 countries in the world who can think about occupying North Korea: Russia and China.

The US can ONLY occupy North Korea if South Korea agrees to let them invade from their territory. Otherwise they can dream on. A amphibious invasion of North Korea would be suicidale for the US.

North Korea to begin with has the largest special force unit in the world. It has 180 000 personnel. Let that number just sink in for a moment. That is the entire size of the German military. 180 000 men and extensively trained for offensive and sabotage operations,

The capabilities of these special forces were perhaps best demonstrated during the 1996 Gangneung submarine infiltration incident when three service members became stranded in South Korea. These personnel managed to evade South Korean search parties comprised of tens of thousands of personnel for a full 49 days. By the time two of them were finally found and eliminated they had killed twelve South Korean soldiers and caused twenty seven more military casualties. The remaining operative was never captured and is assumed to have successfully returned to North Korea.

North Korea also has a multi-layered air defence system. North Korea deploys its air defence assets from heavily fortified underground installations, often built into its mountains, which are mounted on lifts to emerge and again take cover as needed. What does this mean? Extremely difficult to neutralise for standard air to ground munitions.

North Korea is by far the most tunneled country in the world. The country’s underground fortified sites can according to American analysts only be penetrated by bunker busting nuclear weapons. What weapon in the South Korean military will destroy them? These fortifications allow North Korea to move men and supplies quickly and in considerable numbers across their territory relatively safe from danger.

North Korea even has underground airfields....

North Korea's Underground Bunkers And Bases Are A Nightmare For America

What lies within them?

nationalinterest.org

Reasons South Korea can not beat North Korea in a war:
- Underground fortifications
- Massive special force unit(World's largest)
- Big conventional ballistic/cruise missile arsenal. Among the best in the world.
- Massive manpower
- Massive Armour/Artillery
- Fortified multi-layered air defence system

@QWECXZ @beijingwalker @dy1022

 

[Foinikas]

LOL. Where did I mention "communist propoganda"?

You didn't,I did.

- Massive special force unit(World's largest)

That's what they claim. And Saddam had Republican Guard and Special Republican Guard and Fedayin Saddam and this and that. How did they help him win the war against the allies in 1990 and 2003? They didn't.

That's what I'm talking about communist propaganda. They claim they have a million or so special forces. What kind of quality are these special forces and they are so numerous? What are the real numbers? It's silly.

- Big conventional ballistic/cruise missile arsenal. Among the best in the world.

And South Korea has enough land and sea AA systems to defeat them. Of course some will definetely hit their targets,but still...

- Massive manpower

South Korea has double the population of North Korea,man.

- Massive Armour/Artillery

I can't say about the artillery,but South Korea has significantly better quality armor. And a big numbers too.

- Fortified multi-layered air defence system

Of this?

 

[Foinikas]

Your statement about South Korea being able to "smash" North Korea in a conventional war is ridiculous and laughable. Shows how ill informed you are. Also stop using Saddam Hussein argument like "4th largest military in the world". North Korea is not Iraq. I have seen you use it dozen of times in other threads. It is almost like you have no other argument.

It's pretty much a good arguement,because both countries were ruled by a dictator,both had the "4th largest armies in the world" and both had mostly outdated weapon systems and equipment.

You're saying I'm ill informed,yet you can't see the massive technological difference between these two armies. And before you start mentioning "Vietnaaam Vietnaaam" or "Afghanistaaan" like some others do all the time,think about the poverty and tyranny millions of North Koreans have been enduring. Think about how so many try to get out of that country,every way they can and how many are just scared to do something. Or how many have been sent to labor camps and how many have been starving outside of Pyongyang. Why do I mention this? Because in case of a conventional war,I believe hundreds of thousands would try to find a chance to defect.

 

[MH.Yang]

What’s about the communist defeat of USSR in Afghanistan? Communist defeat of Stone Age communist Cambodia against Vietnam? The total collapse of communist bloc in East Europe?
Wining a war is not about communist or not communist. More to do who has more Iq.
Unless Ccp can feed the entire North Korea army they will run hungry to war.

North Korea famine occurred between 1994 and 2004. After 2004, China and the North Korea reached an agreement on agricultural cooperation. It is unlikely that there will be another famine in North Korea.
Now the per capita meat consumption in North Korea has increased year by year, and the gap between the rich and the poor in North Korea is not serious. Its hunger index is much better than that in India.
In 2021, India ranked 101st in the hunger index, North Korea ranked 76th, and North Korea ranked better. North Korea's Gini index (the gap between the rich and the poor) is very good.
If the Indians did not fight hungry, the North Korean would not.

Global Hunger Index - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[newb3e]

dont worry Amrikay lord Dha mafia will sacrifice lifes and take care of NK for you! just give them some dollar even pennies will work on cheap dha mafia!

 

[MH.Yang]

USA should do something about this joker

Putin or xi jinpin use him as their nuke man

You are mistaken. On the contrary, it is the fat Kim who treats Putin and Xi as nuke man.

Have you ever wondered why fat Kim dared to humiliate every US president, even lunatic Trump? Because North Korea and China have a common defense agreement, which was signed in 1950 and is valid until 2049. It is clear that fat Kim is abusing this agreement, he used his a2s to spray shit on everyone he didn't like, and force the Chinese govt to wipe his a2s.

 

[Super Falcon]

You are mistaken. On the contrary, it is the fat Kim who treats Putin and Xi as nuke man.

Have you ever wondered why fat Kim dared to humiliate every US president, even lunatic Trump? Because North Korea and China have a common defense agreement, which was signed in 1950 and is valid until 2049. It is clear that fat Kim is abusing this agreement, he used his a2s to spray shit on everyone he didn't like, and force the Chinese govt to wipe his a2s.

Sorry to say china won't allow such idiot if he is going against china china can easily take him out through coup if china wants

After all you are a mullah cultivated by Western governments hence you deriding him. BTW what became of the great grand research team set up by "Mard-e-Momin" Zia saheb to research ways of harnessing the power of jinns. It must be around 35 years since that research team was set up. Any results ?

Who the hell are you pretending me I'm this or that

 

[Viet]

North Korea famine occurred between 1994 and 2004. After 2004, China and the North Korea reached an agreement on agricultural cooperation. It is unlikely that there will be another famine in North Korea.
Now the per capita meat consumption in North Korea has increased year by year, and the gap between the rich and the poor in North Korea is not serious. Its hunger index is much better than that in India.
In 2021, India ranked 101st in the hunger index, North Korea ranked 76th, and North Korea ranked better. North Korea's Gini index (the gap between the rich and the poor) is very good.
If the Indians did not fight hungry, the North Korean would not.

Global Hunger Index - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

NK is country, nobody can enter nobody can exit. There is zero free movement, zero free press. How do you know how the situation there?

 

[MH.Yang]

NK is country, nobody can enter nobody can exit. There is zero free movement, zero free press. How do you know how the situation there?

North Korea can enter, even Americans and Japanese can enter, it's just that they have to take a train from Dandong, China.

This data comes from the United Nations, and the DPRK has always had permanent UN staff.

Of course, maybe you know North Korea better than the United Nations.

 

[khansaheeb]

If USA is not scared of doing provocations against Russia and China at the same time.

Imagine what they would think about NK threats.

It's like the difference between a baby rattle snake and an adult one, the baby rattle snake doesn't have the experience to control it's venom.

 

[beijingwalker]

North Korea mocks DC memorial’s new Wall of Remembrance as ‘ceremony play’​

By DAVID CHOI AND YOO KYONG CHANG
STARS AND STRIPES • August 8, 2022

A soldier with the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment, also know as The Old Guard, helps dedicate the Wall of Remembrance at the Korean War Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C., July 27, 2022. (Josue Patricio/U.S. Army)

— South Korea’s veterans affairs chief denounced North Korea’s mockery of a new Korean War memorial in Washington, D.C., and said honoring those who died for their country is a “courtesy and duty as a human being, regardless of political ideology.”

The North Korean state-run news outlet Uriminzokkiri, or With Our People, on Saturday described events in Washington as “ceremony play.”

“The Wall of Remembrance and the unveiling ceremony play may comfort and commemorate someone; however, it would never lessen the nightmare of the lost war and cure the shame of the disastrous defeat,” said the column. The wall instead should stand as a testament to North Korea, “our great republic, which has embraced a great victory.”


The Korean War Veterans Memorial was rededicated in a ceremony on July 27 to include a new Wall of Remembrance that contains the names of over 36,000 American and 7,100 South Korean augmented troops who were killed during the 1950-53 war.

On Sunday, Minister of Patriots and Veterans Affairs Park Minshik described North Korea’s remarks as “irrational” and that it was “time that North Korea’s propaganda outlets should level up.”

Those who died in war ought to be remembered for their service, Park said in a statement posted on his Facebook account.

“The U.S. sent the largest number of young persons to the war and some of them never returned to their loving families,” Park said. “Commemorating the sacrifice and commitment is a courtesy and a duty as a human being, regardless of political ideology.”

North Korea’s state-run news outlets frequently criticize the U.S.-South Korea alliance and mock war casualties from the two countries.

The communist regime characterizes its Korean War campaign as a successful deterrent against imperialist forces. North Korea also holds tributes to the war dead and observes a national holiday to commemorate the signing of the Korean War Armistice Agreement.

Congress approved building the memorial wall in 2016 and construction workers broke ground in 2021. The renovations cost $22 million and were funded by donations from South Korean companies, religious groups and veterans’ organizations, according to the Korean War Veterans Memorial Foundation. Upgrades to the existing memorial included installation of rail lighting, planting of junipers and statue restorations.

"This wall reminds us of the depths of their sacrifice and instills in us a call of duty to carry on their fight," South Korean Ambassador to the U.S. Cho Tae-yong said at the rededication ceremony, according to a Defense Department news release. “The service members we are here today to honor stood their ground in battlefields so that future generations could live in a vibrant democracy — indeed, [South Korea] is a vibrant democracy today.”

North Korea mocks DC memorial’s new Wall of Remembrance as ‘ceremony play’

The Korean War Veterans Memorial was rededicated in a ceremony on July 27 to include a new Wall of Remembrance that contains the names of over 36,000 American and 7,100 South Korean augmented troops who were killed during the 1950-53 war.

www.stripes.com

 

[retaxis]

NK needs some nuclear subs with MIRV ICBM using thermonuclear warheads. Then US will not mess with them