No respect for the Indian armed force?

[shaktiman2010]

If it is needed for the defence of the country the Armed Forces will invite foreign consultants - because if they do not projects like Kaveri, Barak,Brahmos,FGFA would not be in the works.

It is Indian army's job to use their own brains and evaluate their battle tank requirements. If they need foreign brains for making that decision for them, then they don't know how to do their own job.

First, learn to do your own job then lecture others.

 

[pmukherjee]

It is not IAS's job to get on street and take guns in his own hands. He is not supposed to do that job.

Similarly, Army officers are not qualified to understand 2000 complex clauses inside International laws and treaties so as to advise, beyond his duty to his seniors on how to take decisions.

Everyone has a job to do and asking for more than one's share is clear case of overriding the authority.

First ask the Army to use their own brains and don't invite foreign consultants to make decisions for them. First, do your own job properly, then lecture others.

And anyways, if Army is hungry for respect so much, then first give respect to common Indian men and stop being a shame on country by trying to act like superficial above the common, super-humans. That's exactly the path Armies o in dictator countries. Comparing the security protocols accorded to ruling dispension with regular Army soldiers types, is just beginning.

Protocols are protocols and they must be respected. They can't be confused with emotions(respect, hate, love, dream or whatever out of this reporter's as*).

Oh OK, Got it now. Really silly of me to have taken so long. You are a typical DRDO guy afraid to lose his job and operating under the guise of patriotism by throwing muck on the Indian Armed Forces. I had heard of the term "Trying to show one's father how to ffff " But you babies have taken this proverb to an altogether new level. Well, I am out of here. I sympathize with you, really, I do.

 

[shaktiman2010]

The recent drive against corruption has shaken up wrong sides(dirty elements) of Indian Army. That's why they are coming out with such worms in media, crying foul about it. - "you don't respect us! you launch corruption cases on us! we save your as*es, we are above the law! we shouldn't be checked on airports for security! we are holy cows!" and blah blah blah

 

[KS]

It is Indian army's job to use their own brains and evaluate their battle tank requirements. If they need foreign brains for making that decision for them, then they don't know how to do their own job.

First, learn to do your own job then lecture others.

Now you are really being the dic*head you said the Army was in the first post.

Did I mention Arjun in my post - put your brain glasses on and see what I have written - Kaveri,FGFA,Brahmos,Barak.

Dont tell me the sooper dooper DRDO could do this without outside help. I know better.And first learn to read before getting all hyper.

 

[Manas]

In the prevailing scenario ,War is too big an issue to be left to the Generals.

I've family number in the army ,i've heard him gripe about IAS bureaucratic interference, not much about ministers .
it may be generals do fuss about them in private.

Civilian rule is supreme ,thats because its the only way, things can work in india .

 

[KS]

Oh OK, Got it now. Really silly of me to have taken so long. You are a typical DRDO guy afraid to lose his job and operating under the guise of patriotism by throwing muck on the Indian Armed Forces. I had heard of the term "Trying to show one's father how to ffff " But you babies have taken this proverb to an altogether new level. Well, I am out of here. I sympathize with you, really, I do.

Exactly sir. You can easily see that in his posts. DRDO is the worlds best R&D organisation (not to take any credit from DRDO) and Indian Armed Forces are the worlds most rotten corrupt dirty playing havoc with an innocent DRDO.

Insecurity at its best. The MoD must privatize DRDO and show them what work really is.

 

[Manas]

ARmies in third world countries are always one of the decision makers, they also set the direction of the country. India's case is no different.

No, India is different , its a fully functioning democracy where civilian leadership is supreme.

 

[shaktiman2010]

Oh OK, Got it now. Really silly of me to have taken so long. You are a typical DRDO guy afraid to lose his job and operating under the guise of patriotism by throwing muck on the Indian Armed Forces.

Come on, don't be paranoid now. Noone is eating up Indian armed forces. Its just about corruption.

Protecting corrupts in Indian army might be patriotism for you, because you think it is embarrassing to talk about corruption in Indian Army. But I don't think so.

If there is corruption in Indian military, it must be handled with iron hand and talked, discussed openly. Just accusing someone to be Babu, DRDO or media-waalah is not going to provide you any escape routes.

 

[Manas]

Oh, come on, Indian army's job is to protect its international borders .

It knows very well that if it usurps political power, India would break up from inside.

 

[KS]

Come on, don't be paranoid now. Noone is eating up Indian armed forces. Its just about corruption.

Protecting corrupts in Indian army might be patriotism for you, because you think it is embarrassing to talk about corruption in Indian Army. But I don't think so.

If there is corruption in Indian military, it must be handled with iron hand and talked, discussed openly. Just accusing someone to be Babu, DRDO or media-waalah is not going to provide you any escape routes.

If there is corruption (and it is there) punish them but also see the root causes of the corruption in the Armed forces which were till recently one of the cleanest.

It is because of a sense of inequality(or in other sense equality) in pay between the civilian babus coming at 10.30 going at 5.00 eating chai-biscuit and a soldier sitting at -30* Centi at Siachen.

Address that and then then whine about corruption. And no none of my family or extended family are in any of the Armed forces.

 

[Last Hope]

How can it earn, when the troops torture and beat up people killing them too ?
How about Jammu and Kashmir?

I have seen many videos, and they prove why they dont have support.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

How can it earn, when the troops torture and beat up people killing them too ?
How about Jammu and Kashmir?

I have seen many videos, and they prove why they dont have support.

By that logic you guys should have dismantled your Pak fauj after 1971.

Anyways, Indians don't need a doodh peeta bachha to tell them what to do with their army. So buzz off.

 

[Last Hope]

By that logic you guys should have dismantled your Pak fauj after 1971.

Anyways, Indians don't need a doodh peeta bachha to tell them what to do with their army. So buzz off.

Oooooh! So you believe in what your government has told you the crap about 1971,without frgettin dt your cover is blown??
Did you NOT see the documentery on a hot thread on the forum?

Its your bloody army and mukhti banni.
And as for the baby, why dont you go?

First feed yourself with knowledge and them come out.
This forum is for those who are mentally mature, and I guess you should be here.

Arent you the one who is always banned?

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Oooooh! So you believe in what your government has told you the crap about 1971,without frgettin dt your cover is blown??
Did you NOT see the documentery on a hot thread on the forum?

Its your bloody army and mukhti banni.
And as for the baby, why dont you go?

First feed yourself with knowledge and them come out.
This forum is for those who are mentally mature, and I guess you should be here.

Arent you the one who is always banned?

 

[shaktiman2010]

karthic,

fair enough.

I agree on one thing - Armed serviced chiefs should be made permanent members of CCS(Cabinet committee on security) along with CDS. And make the CDS the CEO of MoD's war department.