No resolution for Kashmir due to UN’s indolence and world’s apathy: Syed Ali Geelani

[MBT 3000]

The reason why there has been no forward movement on Kashmir has been in part due to stubbornness by Indians but more importantly due to the article of faith issue (as Z.A. Bhutto put it) that you've proclaimed: even if there is agreement for a free and fair vote on accession the only result Pakistanis are prepared to accept is accession to Pakistan. That, combined with Pakistan's extensive record of of supporting "stateless" actors in the region and assassinating pro-independence and pro-Indian Kashmiri political leaders (see Shuja Nawaz' Crossed Swords for details) strongly implies that the run-up to the vote will be horribly bloody and more blood will follow afterwards. So until Pakistanis like yourself mature it will be much better for Kashmiris that there be no "progress" on the issue, yes?

thats coming from a zionist

 

[American Pakistani]

The UN resolution can't be changed as per your liking, did you know that Sir? What makes you think that the world will run as per your dreams and wishes? There's a process already laid down by the UN about Kashmir referendum. You either agree to it or simply get out of it, there's no middle way.

It's YOU who is shying away from the Kashmir referendum. I'm glad that you know that. You're the one responsible for the current mess. You don't recognise the UN resolution and you have total disregard for the world body. May be that's why nobody takes you seriously. That's your Karma.

UN troops are acceptable but not indian occupiers who are committing terrorism and genocide in IOK.

 

[Sully3]

That's a green flag without a white stripe. A crescent moon of Islam, not the Pakistani flag.
It kills me that you don't know your own country's flag.

dirty lying indian

 

[Kuru]

UN troops are acceptable but not indian occupiers who are committing terrorism and genocide in IOK.

That means you don't agree to the UN resolution about Kashmir and preconditions of the plebiscite. That's the end of the story.

Back to square 1, its you who is shying away from the referendum in Kashmir.

 

[Corona]

dirty lying indian

Calling me a dirty lying Indian won't change the fact that you are a moron, a blithering idiot who posted an Islamic flag and confused it with the Pakistani flag.
I never said they didn't raise Pakistani flag. Just that you're a someone who doesn't know his own country's flag.

 

[American Pakistani]

That means you don't agree to the UN resolution about Kashmir and preconditions of the plebiscite. That's the end of the story.

Back to square 1, its you who is shying away from the referendum in Kashmir.

Pakistan can not allow indian occupiers in liberated parts cuz of the atrocities and massacre done in IOK. Indian occupiers could change demographics or never let refrendum happen.

 

[Corona]

Pakistan can not allow indian occupiers in liberated parts cuz of the atrocities and massacre done in IOK. Indian occupiers could change demographics or never let refrendum happen.

Well that was part of the deal. Now you will have to come up with a new deal that both Pakistan and India can accept before conducting the referendum.

 

[American Pakistani]

@Sully3 that troll has turned blind, he cannot recognize Pakistani flag cuz those pics has damaged and destroyed his brain cells.

Well that was part of the deal. Now you will have to come up with a new deal that both Pakistan and India can accept before conducting the referendum.

Yes the deal is that wait for the right time. Muslim population is rising anyways no matter how many you kill. Once Pakistan take care of its western border, the focus will be back.

Calling me a dirty lying Indian won't change the fact that you are a moron, a blithering idiot who posted an Islamic flag and confused it with the Pakistani flag.
I never said they didn't raise Pakistani flag. Just that you're a someone who doesn't know his own country's flag.

You lost your brain cells due to the pics @Sully3 posted.

 

[Corona]

@Sully3 that troll has turned blind, he cannot recognize Pakistani flag cuz those pics has damaged and destroyed his brain cells.



Yes the deal is that wait for the right time. Muslim population is rising anyways no matter how many you kill. Once Pakistan take care of its western border, the focus will be back.



You lost your brain cells due to the pics @Sully3 posted.

@Sully3 is a big boy. He can answer me on his own. And again, all I pointed was that he was wrong about the Pakistani flag and that was neither trolling nor baiting.

Now back to you. Muslim population rising will only give India more incentive to fight and will justify the actions India takes in the eyes of the world. I've asked you for an alternative if you can't accept the current UN set conditions for a referendum. If all you can come up with is 'Muslims rising', nothing's gonna change.

 

[American Pakistani]

@Sully3 is a big boy. He can answer me on his own. And again, all I pointed was that he was wrong about the Pakistani flag and that was neither trolling nor baiting.

Now back to you. Muslim population rising will only give India more incentive to fight and will justify the actions India takes in the eyes of the world. I've asked you for an alternative if you can't accept the current UN set conditions for a referendum. If all you can come up with is 'Muslims rising', nothing's gonna change.

Of course he is a big boy and answered you well and his work destroyed your brain cells so that you forgot how a Pakistani flag look like.

As I told you, Pakistan will now play a waiting game, during this period Muslim population will keep rising in IOK. Pakistan is fine with waiting game for now so things, although slow, are going well for Pakistan.

 

[Corona]

Of course he is a big boy and answered you well and his work destroyed your brain cells so that you forgot how a Pakistani flag look like.

As I told you, Pakistan will now play a waiting game, during this period Muslim population will keep rising in IOK. Pakistan is fine with waiting game for now so things, although slow, are going well for Pakistan.

Well it's obvious now that I know the Pakistani flag much better than either of you two. Thanks for clearing that up
And come on dude. You've been playing the waiting game for 70 years now Most Kashmiris just want to get on with their lives.

 

[American Pakistani]

Well it's obvious now that I know the Pakistani flag much better than either of you two. Thanks for clearing that up
And come on dude. You've been playing the waiting game for 70 years now Most Kashmiris just want to get on with their lives.

Yes all arnab goswamia type indians are self declared experts on Pakistan.

Waiting game which is costing india resources, soldier's lives, etc etc.

And yes Kashmiris wanna get on with their lives but won' live under occupation of foreign occupier terrorists.

 

[MultaniGuy]

It's not that China is "supportive" but that China assumes there will be one in the relevant Pakistan-China border agreement, which mentions that Chinese-Indian border arrangements will be determined afterwards - a clear implication that China will take no part - not directly, anyway - in a Pakistan-India military conflict.

What makes you so sure Zionist scum?

China has supported Pakistan in many ways.

What makes you think China would not support Pakistan in a war against India?

 

[Corona]

Yes all arnab goswamia type indians are self declared experts on Pakistan.

Waiting game which is costing india resources, soldier's lives, etc etc.

And yes Kashmiris wanna get on with their lives but won' live under occupation of foreign occupier terrorists.

Yes it is costing, but who is it costing more?
About resources, India has the resources to maintain its position. We've been doing it since independence.
About soldiers, yes some soldiers die, but that's soldiering. All countries loose troops, even Pakistan, when they're fighting terrorists. Their families are taken care of by the government. And we have one of the largest army by active numbers, do Kashmiri terrorists really think they are making a dent?
But what about these Kashmiri terrorists? Do they have the resources? Who takes care of their families when the sole breadwinner dies?
Trust me, if waiting is your strategy, we can convert the LOC into the border. Indian citizens are fine with what we are putting into the Kashmir effort. Might I even say, Indians are demanding it

 

[itachii]

India shohld discard artivle 370, that alone will solve the kashmir problem(atleast on this side of border).