No Pak ban on Hafiz Saeed from giving hate speeches

[RescueRanger]

They should just have a gag order put on this idiot. Nothing good comes out from his mouth or that of his goons. Bigoted old fool!

 

[dabong1]

Has any indian heard a speech from Hafiz Saeed ?

Heres a few samples from youtube.

Could someone translate this so we can know where he is saying go around and kill innocent people.

Gotta love the indian spin on this report

 

[Saquibk]

Not really. Your rodeo state establishment deliberately using terror, in Khalistan, Kashmir etc. in their hopes to weaken India. You want to know how we crushed Khalistan insurgency? When Pak ISI was busy formeting trouble in India through Khalistan terror groups, two RAW team CIT X and CIT Y decided to carry out a long term medium intensity bombing campaign in Lahore. They were hitting you again and again to teach you a lesson. This went on until some prince/big guy in UAE (his wife was a pakistani) decided to help broker a deal. The chief of RAW and the chief of ISI (the inimitable Hamid Gul) decided to go for the 'flag meeting' where the RAW chief told him in no uncertain terms that as long as Pakistan kept it's hand in Punjab, we'll continue to give pain. That's when Pak decided to retract it's policies and the bombings miraculously stopped. So who was the provocator? Whose was the rogue establishment?

So you agree that RAW has been involved in terrorism in Pakistan for a very long time. Thats the point. Terrorism in South Asia is not limited to Pakistan; contrary to popular Indian belief.

 

[Saquibk]

Odd isnt it, I never think of indian terrorist, even the idea seems funny,,pakistan terrorist their seems to be plenty of, If I think of terrorism in India at all I figure its by muslims.

That is what propaganda does to us. Can you believe that suicide bombing was pioneered by Japanese!! And it was first used in terrorism by Indian Hindus; Tamils to be precise.

 

[Saquibk]

Na majority of India muslims are genuinely peace loving. They're busy topping the civil services exams nowadays.

And becoming icons of bollywood; a profession as far away from terrorism as can be.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

And becoming icons of bollywood; a profession as far away from terrorism as can be.

i'd rather be a terrorist

 

[Saquibk]

i'd rather be a terrorist

Grapes are sour

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

That is what propaganda does to us. Can you believe that suicide bombing was pioneered by Japanese!! And it was first used in terrorism by Indian Hindus; Tamils to be precise.

Comes from long befor that, around 1200 AD
Tactics: assassination, intimidation and intrigue
Unable to mount a conventional military army, the Nizāriyya developed a form of asymmetric warfare transforming the act of political assassination into a system of survival and defense against their foes. They trained highly capable sleeper commandos (trained in languages, science, trade, and so on) known as Fedayeen, who would covertly infiltrate enemy positions and remain undercover. If Nizari civilians were facing pogroms or their forts faced imminent attack, the Fedayeen were activated to prevent an attack.

Ali az-Zahir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Saquibk]

Comes from long befor that, around 1200 AD
Tactics: assassination, intimidation and intrigue
Unable to mount a conventional military army, the Nizāriyya developed a form of asymmetric warfare transforming the act of political assassination into a system of survival and defense against their foes. They trained highly capable sleeper commandos (trained in languages, science, trade, and so on) known as Fedayeen, who would covertly infiltrate enemy positions and remain undercover. If Nizari civilians were facing pogroms or their forts faced imminent attack, the Fedayeen were activated to prevent an attack.

Ali az-Zahir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess that can be equated with terrorism, but not suicide bombing. In fact there is more similarity with guerrilla warfare.
The closest ancient example can be found in Hindu mythology when Hanuman set himself on fire and burned Lanka.

 

[Areesh]

What a stupid pathetic thread.

 

[Guynextdoor]

So you agree that RAW has been involved in terrorism in Pakistan for a very long time. Thats the point. Terrorism in South Asia is not limited to Pakistan; contrary to popular Indian belief.

Not really. When India retaliates against terrorism, it isn't exactly terrorism isn't it? It's called getting the looney's on their knees and whipping them. Plus no random rodeo clown in India to arm under the name of 'causes'. India has a highly restricted small arms and rifle production facilities and they're very against letting private players because they want ZERO seepage of weapons among civilians. n pak, on the other hand, you've got rodeo clowns on the streets brandishing weapons and then training to execute terror. The difference is STATE POLICY. We won't let our civilians arm under any circumstance whatsoever.

 

[Saquibk]

Not really. When India retaliates against terrorism, it isn't exactly terrorism isn't it? It's called getting the looney's on their knees and whipping them. Plus no random rodeo clown in India to arm under the name of 'causes'. India has a highly restricted small arms and rifle production facilities and they're very against letting private players because they want ZERO seepage of weapons among civilians. n pak, on the other hand, you've got rodeo clowns on the streets brandishing weapons and then training to execute terror. The difference is STATE POLICY. We won't let our civilians arm under any circumstance whatsoever.

You are implying two things

1) A terrorist like act may not be terrorism. A good cause may justify a terrorist act.

2) USA supports terrorism as a state policy because it has one of the most liberal private arms regime in the world.

 

[DeathGod]

The closest ancient example can be found in Hindu mythology when Hanuman set himself on fire and burned Lanka.

ROFLOL... excellent knowledge of Hindu mythology....

For your very kind information Hanuman didn't set fire to himself albeit his tail was set on fire by Ravan and Hanuman used it against Ravan and burnt the Lanka down to demonstrate the power of GODS.

Btw did you get this from some kind of bogus propaganda that has been running in Pakistan?( Its good entertainment though... missing the likes of Zaid Hamid and Ahmed Qureshi these days..)

 

[Guynextdoor]

You are implying two things

1) A terrorist like act may not be terrorism. A good cause may justify a terrorist act.

2) USA supports terrorism as a state policy because it has one of the most liberal private arms regime in the world.

No I do not say ANY of that. I'm saying Indians aren't angels, we know how to retaliate with great brutality if we want to and have done so previously. It remians however a policy that we haven't supported in a long time. Rajiv Gandhi shut down CIT X & CIT J, Narasimha Rao (I think) shut down the Chinese counterpoerations team and both are now oriented towards 'surverlliance' preferring to use international diplomacy and strong arm tactics. Y? Stability. We don't want Rodeo clowns on our soil arming for this and that cause.
Your establishment, on the other hand, was always hand in glove with terrorist groups. The same Hamid Gul whom we had on HIS KNEES for the policy decisions he executed, the same man who invited a HORRIBLE retaliation for the people of Pak in consequence of his operations in India is now Rodeoing around among the Jihadist circles. What about that? It's not that he doesn't know the consequences but he (like several others in your establishment) don't mind continuing even if the pak people pay a heavy price.

How many Bal Thackerays activists do you see with AK 47s? How many of them actually crossed the border and attacked you? Even the Samjhota Express criminals that you guys so loudly cry about have been ******* in Jails for YEARS. U think Hindu extremist groups didn't want them out?

 

[Saquibk]

No I do not say ANY of that. I'm saying Indians aren't angels, we know how to retaliate with great brutality if we want to and have done so previously. It remians however a policy that we haven't supported in a long time. Rajiv Gandhi shut down CIT X & CIT J, Narasimha Rao (I think) shut down the Chinese counterpoerations team and both are now oriented towards 'surverlliance' preferring to use international diplomacy and strong arm tactics. Y? Stability. We don't want Rodeo clowns on our soil arming for this and that cause.
Your establishment, on the other hand, was always hand in glove with terrorist groups. The same Hamid Gul whom we had on HIS KNEES for the policy decisions he executed, the same man who invited a HORRIBLE retaliation for the people of Pak in consequence of his operations in India is now Rodeoing around among the Jihadist circles. What about that? It's not that he doesn't know the consequences but he (like several others in your establishment) don't mind continuing even if the pak people pay a heavy price.

How many Bal Thackerays activists do you see with AK 47s? How many of them actually crossed the border and attacked you? Even the Samjhota Express criminals that you guys so loudly cry about have been ******* in Jails for YEARS. U think Hindu extremist groups didn't want them out?

Well, people have been crossing border from India into Sri Lanka and East Pakistan. Samjhota express reminds me of a similar tragedy in 2002. And we saw the retaliation of Hindu fanatics on innocent Muslims of India. Did you hear about any such retaliation in Pakistan after the Samjhota express tragedy. Imagine if an Indian train had been attacked in Pakistan, what would be the reaction of Hindu fanatics. And Indian government. Pakistani government and Pakistani paople reacted to that tragedy with so mcuh maturity. Indians should learn from that.