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No Maulana Sherani, Quran does not allow a Husband to “Lightly” beat his Wife.

At times ZN can sound like a robot.

Tbh I can't stand him. I don't find softness in his tone. I don't know how I sound to you. but I think American scholars and muftis and Quran teachers are some best people out there. They crack jokes to maintain the talk interesting and while giving messages to their audience. I remember when I first time attended any talk and of course it was by brother Nouman Ali Khan and luckily he gave this talk in NY so there was no point to miss it. It was for almost 3 hrs and I didn't feel bored for like a minute and I still remember all those messages he wanted his audience to take out of speech.
 
And I apologize for the tag.
No need for apology but i don't like to discuss religion because we may all have different religouse theologies, some have knowledge or some argue just for the sake of argument, it creats rifts in the society.

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I believe in that so because of this i don't discuss religious topics and same we trained / taught in the army.
 
No need for apology but i don't like to discuss religion because we may all have different religouse theologies, some have knowledge or some argue just for the sake of argument, it creats rifts in the society.

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I believe in that so because of this i don't discuss religious topics and same we trained / taught in the army.

Well I respect all the sects and always avoid sectarianism. Anyone who shares Kalmah with me, got my respect. Allah knows the best of our hearts.
But on this particular topic I don't believe any sect would agree with the CII. This is why I created this thread.
 
To read Quran, understand it and implement it in one's life is an obligation upon all Muslim men and women equally and I appreciate your effort and I hope you continue this. However to pass a decree needs a lot of knowledge, knowledge of Quran, Hadeeth and Arabic langauge since each Arabic word can have multiple meanings and a lot of background knowledge is required for selecting the most suitable word. Also while interpretting Quranic injunction one must be able to rise above his or herself (shun any biases and affliations) and this is not an easy task and only truly God-fearing people can do that. When one is unable to thwart his tendencies while interpretting the word of Allah, it leads the person to err and that can cause divisions and rifts. Allah and his Prophet (ﷺ) know the best. I have a lot of respect for Hamza Ali Abbasi and wish him best in this world and hereafter.
 
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Before you read this article, I would request you to act on the wise principle of examining and concentrating on WHAT is being said rather than WHO is saying it. Even though I am not a religious scholar and neither do I claim to have any authority over religious matters, but as a Muslim and a Pakistani I feel compelled to write this as the Islamic Ideology Council of Pakistan, supposedly the best Islamic scholarly minds my country has to offer, have given divine permission to husbands to beat their rebellious wives as long as “it doesn’t cause bruising and doesn’t break bones”. Who will decide if the wife is rebellious or not? Can you slap your wife a 100 times and punch her in the stomach as its unlikely both of these methods of beating will not leave a mark nor break a bone. Is it an integral pillar of belief or Iman in Islam to believe that a husband can beat his wife? If not, then why are we so reluctant to talk about it or change, what in my mind, is a misinterpretation of the word of Allah? Is it that we are not willing to re examine the interpretation of previous scholars because now we value the word of men more than the word of Allah and are committing the same mistake that Kufaar of Makkah made as they considered the words of their scholars and ancestors to be indisputable? Before
I start with elaborating the chronic and historically persistent misinterpretation of the concerned verse of the Quran and Ahadith, I want to ask the scholars one thing. Even if you want to continue to believe Allah authorized husbands to beat their wives, considering that domestic violence against women has become a norm in Pakistan, its impossible for a woman to get justice in the Police and Judicial system of Pakistan and righteousness in men is a scarce trait to find, why cant this so called commandment be suspended keeping the dire state of our society in mind? We can learn from Hazrat Ummar Khattab (RZ) in this case as he suspended the clear Quranic punishment of “Cutting hands of a thief” when Medina was struck by famine stating that how can he cut hands of a thief who steals food when he as Amir ul Momineen can not feed his people.

Anyhow, lets look at the Quran and Hadith which have been misinterpreted over the centuries and why they need to be re examined. The first part of verse 34 of chapter 4 of Quran states:
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are sincere with their husbands, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard.

Please lets first be clear about the misconception that Men are superior to women. Quran has stated in multiple places that men and women are equal, for example : Quran 3:135 "I your lord, shall not lose sight of the labor of any of you who labors in My way, be it man or woman; each of you is equal to the other in the sight of your lord” However, as Quran treats a “Family” as an institution, the Husband has been given an upper hand as he is also given to sole responsibility to financially support his family and has placed no financial burden on the wife. So if the husband cannot fulfill his financial obligations to his wife and family, then he is no longer the head of family. In the same family institution, the Mother is given an upper hand over the father when it comes to children, as the responsibility of upbringing the child is with the mother. So in essence, men and women are absolutely equal in Islam, but in Family institution, roles are defined and hierarchy is established for the family members to build a strong family institution.

The next part of verse 34 of Chapter 4 states:
But those [wives] from whom you fear betrayal - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], leave them alone in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they mend their ways, seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted. (Quran 4:34) Similar commandment is also sent for women that if they see betrayal from their husbands, they can seek separation or divorce from their husbands (Quran 4:128). However, in both cases, Allah advises men and women to try their utmost best to make the marriage work. In the case of 4:34, As i searched more, i found that the word translated as “to strike” is “Idriboo-hunn” from the root word “Daraabaa”. This one word in Arabic has multiple meanings and is used in Quran many times with different meanings, such as·

-To travel, to get out: 3:156; 4:101; 38:44; 73:20; 2:273·
-To strike: 2:60,73; 7:160; 8:12; 20:77; 24:31; 26:63; 37:93; 47:4·
-To beat: 8:50; 47:27·
-To set up: 43:58; 57:13·
-To give (examples): 14:24,45; 16:75,76,112; 18:32,45; 24:35; 30:28,58; 36:78; 39:27,29; 43:17; 59:21; 66:10,11·
-To separate, to ignore: 43:5·
-To condemn: 2:61·
-To seal, to draw over: 18:11·
-To cover: 24:31·
-To explain: 13:17.

To my horror, most of the renowned scholars have translated this word to mean “to strike” even though it goes against the spirit of the Quranic use of the word “Idriboo”. Whenever Idriboo is used in a way of telling anyone “to strike” anything, the object of hitting or which body part to hit is also always described:· 2:60 Strike the rock with your staff· 8:012 Strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them· 20:77 Strike the sea with your staffSo in essence, Allah can never give permission to a Husband “to strike” or “Idriboo-hunn” his wife without specifying the object to hit with or the body part hence giving the Husband unhindered permission to hit the wife in whatever way he wants. This is NOT POSSIBLE especially when Allah tells Husbands to treat their wives with “extreme kindness” (Quran 4:19).

I fail to understand that why most scholars did not translate this word to simply mean “To Separate”. Hence, with this meaning, the verse 4:34 becomes clear and logical.

But those [wives] from whom you fear betrayal - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], leave them alone in bed; and [finally], separate from them. But if they mend their ways, seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted. (Al Quran 4:34)

This makes more sense as Allah tells in the very next verse that what to do incase of separation:And if you fear dissension between the two, send an arbitrator from his people and an arbitrator from her people. If they both desire reconciliation, Allah will cause it between them. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Acquainted [with all things]. (Quran 4:35)

Contrary to popular belief that Quran discriminates against women, Quran in various places has ordered husbands to be kind to their wives (Quran 2:231, 4:19, 30:21). Even for divorced women, Quran makes sure their rights are protected, “"For divorced women Maintenance (should be provided) On a reasonable (scale). This is a duty On the righteous men.” Quran 2:241

As far as Hadith is concerned, there is not even a single Sahih Hadith that gives permission to a husband to beat his wife. Scholars opinion that “lightly beating your wife with a stick not bigger than a miswaak and it shouldnt leave a bruise is permissible” is based on sayings of the Prophet (PBUH) in matters that have nothing to do with the relationship of a husband and wife. For example, beating with a miswaak is based on the hadith where a servant in Umm Salama’s house disobeyed the Prophet (PBUH) and in anger the Prophet (PBUH) said “Had i not been fearful of being answerable on the day of judgment, i would have beaten you with this miswaak”. As reported by Ibn e Majah and Ibn e Hibban in their Sahih and cited by Al-Muttaqi in Kanz al-`Ummal (#39820, 39821, 39829).

Another example of scholar’s desperate attempt to justify their cruel interpretation of the word of Allah are the ahadith where the Prophet (PBUH) prohibited hitting on the face incase an unavoidable fight erupts between 2 people as reported in Sahih Bukhari, Hunting, Slaughtering, Volume 7, Book 67, Number 449 and Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 38, Prescribed Punishments (Kitab Al-Hudud), Number 4478. Indirect ahadith are also cited where the Prophet (PBUH) observed cases of people hitting their servants on the face and he strictly disapproved of it as cited in Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari.

Few ahadith that seem to authorize wife beating are all classified as weak/daif by scholars. For example, “Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2142 Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:The Prophet said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.”This Hadith has been classified as weak/daif by Al Albaani and many other renowned scholars.

All the above mentioned and similar ahadith which have nothing to do with matters of a husband and wife, have been considered to formulate the “kind of beating” a rebellious wife can receive. I repeat, no scholar can present even a single Sahih hadith where the Prophet has authorized a husband to beat his wife, on the contrary, there are Sahih ahadith which very clearly prohibit a husband from beating his wife:

- Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2137:
Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri:
Mu'awiyah asked: Apostle of Allah, what is the right of the wife of one of us over him? He replied: That you should give her food as you eat, clothe her as you clothe yourself, do not strike her, do not revile her or separate yourself from her except in the house.

- Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2138:
Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah:
I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your wife when or how you will, give her (your wife) food as you take food, clothe as you clothe yourself, be kind to her and do not beat her.

- Tafsir Ibn Kathir, chapter 68:Imam Ahmad recorded that `Aishah said, "The Messenger of Allah never struck a servant of his with his hand, nor did he ever hit a woman. He never hit anyone, except for when he was fighting Jihad in the cause of Allah.

- Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0142:
Narrated Laqit ibn Sabirah:
I (the narrator Laqit) then said: Messenger of Allah, I have a wife who has something (wrong) in her tongue, i.e. she is rebellious. He said: Then divorce her. I said: Messenger of Allah, I have children from her. He said: Then ask her (to obey you). If there is something good in her, she will do so (obey); be gentle to her and do not beat your wife.

- Hadith quoted in Imam Ghazzali's Ihya Ulum-Id-Din, Marriage section:
“The most perfect of believers in faith are those who are the finest in manners and most gentle towards their wives.”

In conclusion, Quran is the word of Allah which can be interpreted in many ways as to fit the social norms of the time and this is one of the biggest miracles of Quran. I fail to understand why scholars are so touchy on the matter of a husband beating his wife and why cant we use a different translation of the word which suggests “separation” rather than “beating”, especially at a time when domestic violence against women is at an all time high. Is wife beating an integral part of taqwa and belief ? Is it one of the fundamental principles of Islam? Is it really a pillar of Islam to believe that Allah authorized a man to beat his wife? If not, then why are our scholars so reluctant to accept a different translation of the word “Idribuhoon”. As far as this argument goes that great scholars before us translated the word as to “strike” and we cannot challenge their interpretation, well then I guess we are becoming exactly like the Kufaar of Makkah at the time of the Prophet (PBUH) who believed that the words of their ancestors and scholars are the final authority and unchallengeable. Maybe now we Muslims like to prefer the word of men over the word of Allah.

“Why do they not reflect upon the Quran, the word of Allah. Is it that there are locks placed upon their hearts?” Al Quran 47:24

Hamza Ali Abbasi (30th May, 2016)


Well perhaps the CII should read Sheikh Imran Hosein's book: "An Introduction to Methodology for Study of the Quran".

Well written, succint and designed for the layman and I am sure it is not beyond their intellects at CII.

http://www.imranhosein.org/books/555-an-introduction-to-methodology-for-study-of-the-quran.html
 
"According to Quran :
Quran is very clear on this issue. Almighty Allah says: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more strength than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore, the righteous women are devoutly obedient and guard in the husband's absence what Allah would have them to guard. As to those women on whose part you fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance); for Allah is most High and Great (above you all). If you fear a breach between them twain, appoint (two) arbiters, one from his family and the other from hers. If they wish for peace, Allah will cause their reconciliation; for Allah has full knowledge and is acquainted with all things." (Quran: An-Nisaa 34-35)."

http://quran.com/4/34-35

If i am not clear with my health issue I would follow an expert doctor 10/10 rather than showing my medical report to a Engineer to diagnose my health problems!

Superior, Equal and inferior....

Well, Both are human = Equal > Men and Women are EQUAL
Both are Equal in terms of labor in Lord's way = Equal > Men and Women are EQUAL
Both Can't bear children = Not Equal > Women are SUPERIOR
Both are different Physical Strength = Not Equal < Men are Superior
Both are different Mental Strength = Not Equal < Men are Superior
ONE of them is given the charge on the other = Not equal < Men are Superior

And the list goes on!

Men and Women are EQUAL
Women are SUPERIOR
Men are Superior

All three statements are true!

This how you want to see things (For idiots)!
Wise would follow experts in the field having vast research rather than an idiot who finds a statement whatever it be and tries to hold it true in every sense!

Above said things by me are all general things for a sane person! Only Idiots would come at me with perceptions!
 
It's Hamza Ali Abbasi piece of writing.
He is among few people I am impressed.
He dig details,
Be it any social issue, religious issue, economic issue, political issue or strategic issue, Hamza Ali Abbasi always has better opinion compared to most of people.

BUT

One must keep in mind, you cannot become Pioneer in every subject. No matter how educated, wise and intelligent person you are, you cannot cover every thing.

Let's take example of this piece of writing,
He wrote it well, particularly first half portion in which he explained how in Islam Husband has supremacy over wife & mother has supremacy over father and over all Male and Female are equal.

But, the second portion, he shows the gap in his understanding where he "wondered" why Ulma have not translated a specific word in Ayaat with some other meaning (separation, sealing, ignoring) instead of translating it as "beating"?
The reason is simple, it's about understanding of pattern and rhythm of certain ideology and order of command.

Let me give you example
In English word "Fire" carry many meanings, like
I will Fire him from this job.
I will Fire at the target.
I will lit the fire for cooking.
Etc etc
Now same word is giving very different meaning in each case. If we alone mention word "Fire" with out any reference of sentence then It will have multiple meanings since no condition is applied.
But when you write this word in sentence, then according to meaning of sentence and nature of essay we can easily guess the right meaning of FIRE. But for illiterate, it's impossible. This confusion why this meaning was used and why this was not will simple melt his mind. Hence better understanding of English language + ability to comprehend the pattern of events & command is crucial factor here.

Same goes for Arabic language. Quran was translated by experts who knew and understood the Quran + Arabic very well. They were scholars, not of type we see now. Those Ulma were fully aware of context under which they translated the Arabic into other languages. So instead of debating this issue, I will simply go for translation as light beating....... the one done by Ulma.

Islam is religion of peace, No doubt. Islam put struck restriction regarding verbal or physical abuse but under given conditions, Islam do allow you to use Force to settle an issue. Because it's human nature, the last language people understand is language of force. Parents can beat their kids, teachers can punish their students, you are ordered to use Force to stop certain evil under given conditions etc etc....

So, I do believe that in Islam it is allowed to lightly beat wife.
But at last stage, when she is conducting an evil action and you fail to stop her by arguments and by separating her from bed then YES you can use your final right.
And since most of people are confused and spreading trolls regarding light beating. It's important to consider that light beating mean
No red patch
No bleeding
No bone breakage
No hair pulling
No hitting at sensitive parts
No skin cutting

I have seen cases in my life, where slight pressure on shoulder or arms resolve the issue as last resort...... consider it light beating........

Lastly, it's easy to make fun of things, particularly at age when your emotions dominate your wisdom and you question every thing despite of not having enough understanding of answers, it's better to search a bit and consider each and every dimension before making some solid final opinion........

:-)

Before you read this article, I would request you to act on the wise principle of examining and concentrating on WHAT is being said rather than WHO is saying it. Even though I am not a religious scholar and neither do I claim to have any authority over religious matters, but as a Muslim and a Pakistani I feel compelled to write this as the Islamic Ideology Council of Pakistan, supposedly the best Islamic scholarly minds my country has to offer, have given divine permission to husbands to beat their rebellious wives as long as “it doesn’t cause bruising and doesn’t break bones”. Who will decide if the wife is rebellious or not? Can you slap your wife a 100 times and punch her in the stomach as its unlikely both of these methods of beating will not leave a mark nor break a bone. Is it an integral pillar of belief or Iman in Islam to believe that a husband can beat his wife? If not, then why are we so reluctant to talk about it or change, what in my mind, is a misinterpretation of the word of Allah? Is it that we are not willing to re examine the interpretation of previous scholars because now we value the word of men more than the word of Allah and are committing the same mistake that Kufaar of Makkah made as they considered the words of their scholars and ancestors to be indisputable? Before
I start with elaborating the chronic and historically persistent misinterpretation of the concerned verse of the Quran and Ahadith, I want to ask the scholars one thing. Even if you want to continue to believe Allah authorized husbands to beat their wives, considering that domestic violence against women has become a norm in Pakistan, its impossible for a woman to get justice in the Police and Judicial system of Pakistan and righteousness in men is a scarce trait to find, why cant this so called commandment be suspended keeping the dire state of our society in mind? We can learn from Hazrat Ummar Khattab (RZ) in this case as he suspended the clear Quranic punishment of “Cutting hands of a thief” when Medina was struck by famine stating that how can he cut hands of a thief who steals food when he as Amir ul Momineen can not feed his people.

Anyhow, lets look at the Quran and Hadith which have been misinterpreted over the centuries and why they need to be re examined. The first part of verse 34 of chapter 4 of Quran states:
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are sincere with their husbands, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard.

Please lets first be clear about the misconception that Men are superior to women. Quran has stated in multiple places that men and women are equal, for example : Quran 3:135 "I your lord, shall not lose sight of the labor of any of you who labors in My way, be it man or woman; each of you is equal to the other in the sight of your lord” However, as Quran treats a “Family” as an institution, the Husband has been given an upper hand as he is also given to sole responsibility to financially support his family and has placed no financial burden on the wife. So if the husband cannot fulfill his financial obligations to his wife and family, then he is no longer the head of family. In the same family institution, the Mother is given an upper hand over the father when it comes to children, as the responsibility of upbringing the child is with the mother. So in essence, men and women are absolutely equal in Islam, but in Family institution, roles are defined and hierarchy is established for the family members to build a strong family institution.

The next part of verse 34 of Chapter 4 states:
But those [wives] from whom you fear betrayal - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], leave them alone in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they mend their ways, seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted. (Quran 4:34) Similar commandment is also sent for women that if they see betrayal from their husbands, they can seek separation or divorce from their husbands (Quran 4:128). However, in both cases, Allah advises men and women to try their utmost best to make the marriage work. In the case of 4:34, As i searched more, i found that the word translated as “to strike” is “Idriboo-hunn” from the root word “Daraabaa”. This one word in Arabic has multiple meanings and is used in Quran many times with different meanings, such as·

-To travel, to get out: 3:156; 4:101; 38:44; 73:20; 2:273·
-To strike: 2:60,73; 7:160; 8:12; 20:77; 24:31; 26:63; 37:93; 47:4·
-To beat: 8:50; 47:27·
-To set up: 43:58; 57:13·
-To give (examples): 14:24,45; 16:75,76,112; 18:32,45; 24:35; 30:28,58; 36:78; 39:27,29; 43:17; 59:21; 66:10,11·
-To separate, to ignore: 43:5·
-To condemn: 2:61·
-To seal, to draw over: 18:11·
-To cover: 24:31·
-To explain: 13:17.

To my horror, most of the renowned scholars have translated this word to mean “to strike” even though it goes against the spirit of the Quranic use of the word “Idriboo”. Whenever Idriboo is used in a way of telling anyone “to strike” anything, the object of hitting or which body part to hit is also always described:· 2:60 Strike the rock with your staff· 8:012 Strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them· 20:77 Strike the sea with your staffSo in essence, Allah can never give permission to a Husband “to strike” or “Idriboo-hunn” his wife without specifying the object to hit with or the body part hence giving the Husband unhindered permission to hit the wife in whatever way he wants. This is NOT POSSIBLE especially when Allah tells Husbands to treat their wives with “extreme kindness” (Quran 4:19).

I fail to understand that why most scholars did not translate this word to simply mean “To Separate”. Hence, with this meaning, the verse 4:34 becomes clear and logical.

But those [wives] from whom you fear betrayal - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], leave them alone in bed; and [finally], separate from them. But if they mend their ways, seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted. (Al Quran 4:34)

This makes more sense as Allah tells in the very next verse that what to do incase of separation:And if you fear dissension between the two, send an arbitrator from his people and an arbitrator from her people. If they both desire reconciliation, Allah will cause it between them. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Acquainted [with all things]. (Quran 4:35)

Contrary to popular belief that Quran discriminates against women, Quran in various places has ordered husbands to be kind to their wives (Quran 2:231, 4:19, 30:21). Even for divorced women, Quran makes sure their rights are protected, “"For divorced women Maintenance (should be provided) On a reasonable (scale). This is a duty On the righteous men.” Quran 2:241

As far as Hadith is concerned, there is not even a single Sahih Hadith that gives permission to a husband to beat his wife. Scholars opinion that “lightly beating your wife with a stick not bigger than a miswaak and it shouldnt leave a bruise is permissible” is based on sayings of the Prophet (PBUH) in matters that have nothing to do with the relationship of a husband and wife. For example, beating with a miswaak is based on the hadith where a servant in Umm Salama’s house disobeyed the Prophet (PBUH) and in anger the Prophet (PBUH) said “Had i not been fearful of being answerable on the day of judgment, i would have beaten you with this miswaak”. As reported by Ibn e Majah and Ibn e Hibban in their Sahih and cited by Al-Muttaqi in Kanz al-`Ummal (#39820, 39821, 39829).

Another example of scholar’s desperate attempt to justify their cruel interpretation of the word of Allah are the ahadith where the Prophet (PBUH) prohibited hitting on the face incase an unavoidable fight erupts between 2 people as reported in Sahih Bukhari, Hunting, Slaughtering, Volume 7, Book 67, Number 449 and Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 38, Prescribed Punishments (Kitab Al-Hudud), Number 4478. Indirect ahadith are also cited where the Prophet (PBUH) observed cases of people hitting their servants on the face and he strictly disapproved of it as cited in Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari.

Few ahadith that seem to authorize wife beating are all classified as weak/daif by scholars. For example, “Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2142 Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:The Prophet said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.”This Hadith has been classified as weak/daif by Al Albaani and many other renowned scholars.

All the above mentioned and similar ahadith which have nothing to do with matters of a husband and wife, have been considered to formulate the “kind of beating” a rebellious wife can receive. I repeat, no scholar can present even a single Sahih hadith where the Prophet has authorized a husband to beat his wife, on the contrary, there are Sahih ahadith which very clearly prohibit a husband from beating his wife:

- Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2137:
Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri:
Mu'awiyah asked: Apostle of Allah, what is the right of the wife of one of us over him? He replied: That you should give her food as you eat, clothe her as you clothe yourself, do not strike her, do not revile her or separate yourself from her except in the house.

- Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2138:
Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah:
I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your wife when or how you will, give her (your wife) food as you take food, clothe as you clothe yourself, be kind to her and do not beat her.

- Tafsir Ibn Kathir, chapter 68:Imam Ahmad recorded that `Aishah said, "The Messenger of Allah never struck a servant of his with his hand, nor did he ever hit a woman. He never hit anyone, except for when he was fighting Jihad in the cause of Allah.

- Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0142:
Narrated Laqit ibn Sabirah:
I (the narrator Laqit) then said: Messenger of Allah, I have a wife who has something (wrong) in her tongue, i.e. she is rebellious. He said: Then divorce her. I said: Messenger of Allah, I have children from her. He said: Then ask her (to obey you). If there is something good in her, she will do so (obey); be gentle to her and do not beat your wife.

- Hadith quoted in Imam Ghazzali's Ihya Ulum-Id-Din, Marriage section:
“The most perfect of believers in faith are those who are the finest in manners and most gentle towards their wives.”

In conclusion, Quran is the word of Allah which can be interpreted in many ways as to fit the social norms of the time and this is one of the biggest miracles of Quran. I fail to understand why scholars are so touchy on the matter of a husband beating his wife and why cant we use a different translation of the word which suggests “separation” rather than “beating”, especially at a time when domestic violence against women is at an all time high. Is wife beating an integral part of taqwa and belief ? Is it one of the fundamental principles of Islam? Is it really a pillar of Islam to believe that Allah authorized a man to beat his wife? If not, then why are our scholars so reluctant to accept a different translation of the word “Idribuhoon”. As far as this argument goes that great scholars before us translated the word as to “strike” and we cannot challenge their interpretation, well then I guess we are becoming exactly like the Kufaar of Makkah at the time of the Prophet (PBUH) who believed that the words of their ancestors and scholars are the final authority and unchallengeable. Maybe now we Muslims like to prefer the word of men over the word of Allah.

“Why do they not reflect upon the Quran, the word of Allah. Is it that there are locks placed upon their hearts?” Al Quran 47:24

Hamza Ali Abbasi (30th May, 2016)
 
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So, I do believe that in Islam it is allowed to lightly beat wife.
But at last stage, when she is conducting an evil action and you fail to stop her by arguments and by separating her from bed then YES you can use your final right.
And since most of people are confused and spreading trolls regarding light beating. It's important to consider that light beating mean
No red patch
No bleeding
No bone breakage
No hair pulling
No hitting at sensitive parts
No skin cutting

Yeah This is explained in Quran. So that means, there's a specific situation in which you hit your wife, BUT wait even before that Allah has mentioned few strategies to settle down this problem. No man would tolerate seeing his wife cheating on him. So this ayah' is applicable on a particular situation. But problems starts when irrational people use this ayah' and claim that Islam allows to hit your wife....like whenever you want. Dude seriously? Go read Quran in which context this ayah' was revealed.


Well perhaps the CII should read Sheikh Imran Hosein's book: "An Introduction to Methodology for Study of the Quran".

Well written, succint and designed for the layman and I am sure it is not beyond their intellects at CII.

http://www.imranhosein.org/books/555-an-introduction-to-methodology-for-study-of-the-quran.html

This is the problem, they don't study.

It's Hamza Ali Abbasi piece of writing.
He is among few people I am impressed.
He dig details,
Be it any social issue, religious issue, economic issue, political issue or strategic issue, Hamza Ali Abbasi always has better opinion compared to most of people.

Totally agree. This guy can serve this council better than people who are part of this. He is actually educated & I always admire his opinions on different matters.
 
Yeah This is explained in Quran. So that means, there's a specific situation in which you hit your wife, BUT wait even before that Allah has mentioned few strategies to settle down this problem. No man would tolerate seeing his wife cheating on him. So this ayah' is applicable on a particular situation. But problems starts when irrational people use this ayah' and claim that Islam allows to hit your wife....like whenever you want. Dude seriously? Go read Quran in which context this ayah' was revealed.
Problem is with our attitude.
Instead of following the procedure we began to worry about extreme consequences.
Like if Men are allowed to marry four women then It does not mean that it will become popular culture, there are restrictions, conditions and a procedure which allow you to reach the final end point.
In general case, those restrictions are so tight that in 99% cases the issue resolve before reaching final end point .......

Yeah This is explained in Quran. So that means, there's a specific situation in which you hit your wife, BUT wait even before that Allah has mentioned few strategies to settle down this problem. No man would tolerate seeing his wife cheating on him. So this ayah' is applicable on a particular situation. But problems starts when irrational people use this ayah' and claim that Islam allows to hit your wife....like whenever you want. Dude seriously? Go read Quran in which context this ayah' was revealed.
Also
It's crucial condition that husband must be on right side.
If Husband is forcing his wife for some illegal action then here Wife need support. In such case Islam even take away the right from Husband to enforce his opinion on wife.
Wise families never end up in extreme conditions.
 
I agree with the author and congratulate him. The relation of husband and wife is of love and romance. I think Ms Sherani is talking about light spanking..and not beating. Someone must ask her to elaborate it. Islam asks husband to be the best towards his wife.
 
Tbh I can't stand him. I don't find softness in his tone. I don't know how I sound to you. but I think American scholars and muftis and Quran teachers are some best people out there. They crack jokes to maintain the talk interesting and while giving messages to their audience. I remember when I first time attended any talk and of course it was by brother Nouman Ali Khan and luckily he gave this talk in NY so there was no point to miss it. It was for almost 3 hrs and I didn't feel bored for like a minute and I still remember all those messages he wanted his audience to take out of speech.
Yes I agree, he is totally uncharismatic , and quite arrogant.
 
The basic example stays.
The Prophet's life is the EXACT interpretation of the Quran. If he did not carry out an act that has been prescribed in the Quran, then that act has been interpreted incorrectly by the "scholar".

These are just the yearnings of a patriarchal society trying to hang onto its power.
The CII and all these lizards are trying to keep their control over religion as it is the only source of respect and income for them. Take that away, and most of these folks arent worth shining your shoes.
 
I agree with the author and congratulate him. The relation of husband and wife is of love and romance. I think Ms Sherani is talking about light spanking..and not beating. Someone must ask her to elaborate it. Islam asks husband to be the best towards his wife.
He's an actor :agree:and btw it Him not her :D
 
Problem is with our attitude.
Instead of following the procedure we began to worry about extreme consequences.
Like if Men are allowed to marry four women then It does not mean that it will become popular culture, there are restrictions, conditions and a procedure which allow you to reach the final end point.
In general case, those restrictions are so tight that in 99% cases the issue resolve before reaching final end point

True that.
But no one read this all. This is why need to stop depending on mullah so much. And need to research on our own to understand it better. :)
Totally agree on your both points. :)
 
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