No Indian writer to take part in Int'l Urdu Conference in Pakistan

[Hindustani78]

Seriously guys, isn't Urdu the language of all the Muslims of 'Hindustan' ?
( Apart from Bengal).

The First Urdu Deewan was wrote in Dakkan i Hind/ Dakshin Bharat.

Gola konda aka Golkonda

 

[maximuswarrior]

Urdu is not an Indian language, we've got nothing to do with this.

You got that right.

Well urdu is derived out of hindi which is derived out of Sanskrit.
So India is the mother of very many languages.

No, it is not. Urdu is derived from Farsi, Turkish and Arabic. Hindi is an entirely different language and has no correlation with Urdu.

 

[Hindustani78]

No, it is not. Urdu is derived from Farsi, Turkish and Arabic. Hindi is an entirely different language and has no correlation with Urdu.

What about khari boli ?

Amir Khusro wrote in hindvi .

 

[TheDarkKnight]

Urdu is not an Indian language, we've got nothing to do with this.

Wow the supressive attitude of extremists in India, whom I believe to be in minority, is highly visible in this post. What about the muslims of Hyderabad, Lucknow, Dehli (ever heard of Mirza Ghalib?) ... and Kashmir your so called atooot ang! The supression of Urdu language was prevalent during pre partition in British India by the hindu extremists. Many consider these urdu-hindi movements as one of the initial seeds of discord among muslims and hindus, which eventually lead to creation of Pakistan. I thought after partition that was stuff of past as India has rightly included Urdu, spoken by 50 million+ In India, as one of its many official languages. But just like in US even after 100+ years since the end of civil war and abolishment of slavery, you can always find some confederate suporters in the southern states.

Regards

 

[Sliver]

I did a quick wiki search...and:

Urdu is not an Indian language, we've got nothing to do with this.

It is the national language and lingua franca of Pakistan, and an official language of six states of India. It is also one of the 22 official languages recognized in the Constitution of India.

Well urdu is derived out of hindi which is derived out of Sanskrit.
So India is the mother of very many languages.

Only a minute part of it smarty

Around 99% of Urdu verbs have their roots in Sanskrit and Prakrit.[21]

Wow the supressive attitude of extremists in India, whom I believe to ben in minority, is highly visible in this post. What about the muslims of Hyderabad, Lucknow, Dehli (ever heared of Mirza Ghalib?) ... and Kashmir your so called atooot ang! The supression of Urdu language was prevalent during pre partition in British India by the hindu extremists. Many consider these urdu-hindi movements as one of the initial seeds of discord among muslims and hindus, which eventually lead to creation of Pakistan. I thought after partition that was stuff of past as India has rightly included Urdu, spoken by 50 million+ In India, as one of its many official languages. But just like in US even after 100+ years since the end of civil war and abolishment of slavery, you can always find some confederate suporters in the southern states.

Regards

Any suppression of language or culture is bad as it removes the way of life of people. Having said that, Urdu is official language of 6 Indian states (just put that after I did some reading about the language). so its far from "suppressed".
Please do not take otherwise, but the language and ethnicity suppression happened on bengali by urdu.

 

[Kaniska]

Seriously guys, isn't Urdu the language of all the Muslims of 'Hindustan' ?
( Apart from Bengal).

Actually in contract, India should cherish Urdu as it is a Hindustani Language. Critics and people might have different opinion, but if i am not wrong, it is a language that is only spoken and understood by South Asian people only.

 

[scionoftheindus]

Isn't it the other way? Hindi from Urdu?
Urdu was once known as Hindi/Hindvi (among other names), but current Indian Hindi is derived from Urdu and heavily Sanskritized.

Go and do some research before showing off your ignorance here

 

[Mamluk]

Go and do some research before showing off your ignorance here

Urdu has 800 years of history. Indian Hindi is a new language - an attempt to go back to Sanskrit.

An analogy would be "Old-Germanizing" English and getting rid of all French and non-German influences from it - that would be a new language in its own right.

If Hindi is not new, name one Hindi poet from past! You can't, because there wasn't any.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

I did a quick wiki search...and:
...
Any suppression of language or culture is bad as it removes the way of life of people. Having said that, Urdu is official language of 6 Indian states (just put that after I did some reading about the language). so its far from "suppressed".
Please do not take otherwise, but the language and ethnicity suppression happened on bengali by urdu.

I think I already mentioned about 50mil+ speakers of Urdu in India, as well as stated the fact that India has declared Urdu as one of its official language ...but thanks for providing the numbers at the state level which further counters the poster who was saying that 'India has nothing to do with Urdu'. The supression I was refering to was at individual bigotry and by certain extremists sections or parties in India.

I would like to disagree with bengali language and ethnic suppression, but then even if that happened at certain level the price was paid in 1971 ... and British India paid in 1947.

Regards

 

[Viking 63]

They are (Indians) trying to finish Urdu from India !! Being the language of Mughals they cannot stomach it !!
Modi Raj !

 

[Kaniska]

They are (Indians) trying to finish Urdu from India !! Being the language of Mughals they cannot stomach it !!
Modi Raj !

No we do not like Mughals like Aurngeb or outsider Babur...But Akbar was a good King...We do not have any issue with him...Anyway, Urdu is state language in many states.

 

[darksider]

I did a quick wiki search...and:


It is the national language and lingua franca of Pakistan, and an official language of six states of India. It is also one of the 22 official languages recognized in the Constitution of India.



Around 99% of Urdu verbs have their roots in Sanskrit and Prakrit.[21]



Any suppression of language or culture is bad as it removes the way of life of people. Having said that, Urdu is official language of 6 Indian states (just put that after I did some reading about the language). so its far from "suppressed".
Please do not take otherwise, but the language and ethnicity suppression happened on bengali by urdu.

Can prove it about your 99% claim?
Because we believe its mixture of farsi arabic and maybe some other languages.
Where is 99% sanskrit can you prove it?
Thanks

 

[Sliver]

Can prove it about your 99% claim?
Because we believe its mixture of farsi arabic and maybe some other languages.
Where is 99% sanskrit can you prove it?
Thanks

did some more digging. here you go:
Urdu nouns and adjective can have a variety of origins, such as Arabic, Persian, Turkish, Pushtu and even Portuguese, but ninety-nine per cent of Urdu verbs have their roots in Sanskrit/Prakrit.
from: http://www.dawn.com/news/681263/urdus-origin-its-not-a-camp-language

I think I already mentioned about 50mil+ speakers of Urdu in India, as well as stated the fact that India has declared Urdu as one of its official language ...but thanks for providing the numbers at the state level which further counters the poster who was saying that 'India has nothing to do with Urdu'. The supression I was refering to was at individual bigotry and by certain extremists sections or parties in India.

I would like to disagree with bengali language and ethnic suppression, but then even if that happened at certain level the price was paid in 1971 ... and British India paid in 1947.

Regards

thank you for taking the bengali comment in the right spirit. And I do agree with you that the "india has nothing to do with Urdu" comment was certainly in bad taste given that the wiki article states that about 6 states in India have it as an offical language.

 

[AKD]

Urdu is not an Indian language, we've got nothing to do with this.

Actually it is an Indian language..

 

[darksider]

did some more digging. here you go:
Urdu nouns and adjective can have a variety of origins, such as Arabic, Persian, Turkish, Pushtu and even Portuguese, but ninety-nine per cent of Urdu verbs have their roots in Sanskrit/Prakrit.
from: http://www.dawn.com/news/681263/urdus-origin-its-not-a-camp-language




thank you for taking the bengali comment in the right spirit. And I do agree with you that the "india has nothing to do with Urdu" comment was certainly in bad taste given that the wiki article states that about 6 states in India have it as an offical language.

still i dont get it can pls simplified it for me.
how is it 99% from sanskrit.
pls do use easy language
thanks