No evidence India supporting terror in Pakistan: Holbrooke

[IceCold]

It's funny, when Holbrooke was appointed, there where some what cheers in the Pakistan establishment, hoping to push him to the kashmir issue as well. Now it seems Holbrooke has just become a .

It is clearly proven that the whole world is wrong, and only Gop is right with there statements about India. I love these Pakistanie politicians and army, what will they say to keep there populace happy

Whole world excuse me? Is US the whole world for you?

 

[BaburCM]

Whole world excuse me? Is US the whole world for you?

Well, the Indians have a tendency to believe that whoever supports their view represents the whole wide world. Not a surprise at all I'm afraid.

 

[S-2]

"In fact, he is irrelevant as far as Pakistani matters with India are concerned. At the end of the day, no one can dictate to us about our internal matters. If ayone does, expect souring relations as far as the WoT is concerned. Something we cannot afford, or can we now?"

Given the results of your independance you'd best turn your country over to third-party management while you re-organize from this dysfunctional bankruptcy.

If statements such as the above were to come from the mouths of your government leaders, you'd know very, very quickly what can be done.

Soured? How much more can you sour matters than entire proxy armies of a defeated nat'l gov't crossing the afghan border from sanctuary protected by your country since 2002? Send your army?

Wouldn't that be a laugh.

Cut off supplies?

Please do so and then keep your country afloat. There's a reason besides bilking us that you don't seek Chinese assistance. Care to speculate?

Try linking Kashmir with the Chinese involved to mediate and see how far that goes

No. There's little you can do besides what you presently are doing...nothing. Any further escalation by your country across the Durand line will likely lead to open war with Afghanistan. ISAF and America will be drawn in. Some Europeans might withdraw if so.

We won't.

Sour away with the WOT. Your country is aflame and I don't care what name you ascribe to the inferno, you're knee-deep in it regardless. Too, too much so and it only hurts you.

In short, quit holding a gun to your head and threatening to blow it off. We've plans already for those who'll assume power.

Don't hasten that implementation.

Thanks.

 

[koolio]

"In fact, he is irrelevant as far as Pakistani matters with India are concerned. At the end of the day, no one can dictate to us about our internal matters. If ayone does, expect souring relations as far as the WoT is concerned. Something we cannot afford, or can we now?"

Given the results of your independance you'd best turn your country over to third-party management while you re-organize from this dysfunctional bankruptcy.

If statements such as the above were to come from the mouths of your government leaders, you'd know very, very quickly what can be done.

Soured? How much more can you sour matters than entire proxy armies of a defeated nat'l gov't crossing the afghan border from sanctuary protected by your country since 2002? Send your army?

Wouldn't that be a laugh.

Cut off supplies?

Please do so and then keep your country afloat. There's a reason besides bilking us that you don't seek Chinese assistance. Care to speculate?

Try linking Kashmir with the Chinese involved to mediate and see how far that goes

No. There's little you can do besides what you presently are doing...nothing. Any further escalation by your country across the Durand line will likely lead to open war with Afghanistan. ISAF and America will be drawn in. Some Europeans might withdraw if so.

We won't.

Sour away with the WOT. Your country is aflame and I don't care what name you ascribe to the inferno, you're knee-deep in it regardless. Too, too much so and it only hurts you.

In short, quit holding a gun to your head and threatening to blow it off. We've plans already for those who'll assume power.

Don't hasten that implementation.

Thanks.

I completely disagree with with your analysis it seems too easy for you to be sat on your comfy chair thinking yeh we are super-power and we can say what we want and the whole world has to accept it, the bottom line is Holbrookes statement doesnt make any sense how does he expect to convince the GOP especially when Pakistans interior minister has said he has compelling evidence of Indians involvement of terrorism, supporting and financing terror groups bent of distablizing Pakistan.

 

[S-2]

"...especially when Pakistans interior minister has said..."

Proof?

Trust me it's been presented to the Bush administration. Trust me that it's been presented to the Obama administration. Trust me that either that's the case and we found nothing to your "evidence" or nothing has been presented behind the scene as there's been nothing to present.

Either way, please make certain that you understand we don't believe you. Our policies and appropriations will be based upon our analysis. Not yours.

As such, you are welcome to speculate about your government's reactions but I guarantee that we can't more clearly express our positions than those comments made by Petraeus, Clinton, Gates, and Holbrooke.

How you view those comments is your matter but they are all collected and very much "for the record". Take it as you will but in addition to those comments by David Obey (D-Wis), the house appropriations chairman this week show clearly what trajectory the aid package is on.

Thanks.

 

[godsavetheworld]

I completely disagree with with your analysis it seems too easy for you to be sat on your comfy chair thinking yeh we are super-power and we can say what we want and the whole world has to accept it, the bottom line is Holbrookes statement doesnt make any sense how does he expect to convince the GOP especially when Pakistans interior minister has said he has compelling evidence of Indians involvement of terrorism, supporting and financing terror groups bent of distablizing Pakistan.

He doesnt need to. He's not here to win your approval. He stated the fact. Now that he is speaks the truth, all of your have begin abusing him.

Pakistan has no credibility whatsoever. There is distrust even among the Pakistanis about their government, and for one there is no coherence, the right hand doesnt know what the left is doing. No one knows whos calling the shots. Sometime back he said India carried out Lahore attack and the next day denied it. So we are better of believing 'credible' Americans.

Its high time Pakistan takes the advice of its own Air Marshal seriously, and stop blaming India, when the problem is created by you yourself.

 

[jeypore]

Whole world excuse me? Is US the whole world for you?

In terms of Pakistan current situation it's in, yes, US is the whole world for Pakistan.

 

[Stumper]

Why do we need to convince the Americans?

Why do we need to seek validation from the US? Either the Pak government tells us they are sure of the Indian activity or they are not. If they are sure, blow up those consulates and the people of Pakistan will support the government for protecting our lives.

You don't. Simple. Neither has your government provided any.

Regarding blowing up consulates, your government did that once. We are yet to do same to some in Nepal.

 

[Sambha]

If they are sure, blow up those consulates

But those consulates are in Afghanistan, not in Pakistan. Pakistan doesn't have any right to attack anything inside Afghanistan. Afghanistan is no longer a Pakistani proxy, as it was in the Taliban era.

 

[IceCold]

In terms of Pakistan current situation it's in, yes, US is the whole world for Pakistan.

Ohh please spare the BS. If that was the case, we wouldn't have even dared to come up with such accusations in the first place knowing the US response to it.
The same however stands true for India as can be seen by the post of many Indian and specially after the 123 deal, its not that hard to imagine who is in bed with whom. Enjoy the honeymoon

 

[koolio]

But those consulates are in Afghanistan, not in Pakistan. Pakistan doesn't have any right to attack anything inside Afghanistan. Afghanistan is no longer a Pakistani proxy, as it was in the Taliban era.

So are you trying to say its an Indian Proxy?

If NATO is powerless to stop those barbarians crossing over from Afghanistan into Pakistan and causing all sorts of damage are you trying to imply Pakistan has no right to attack perpetrators financiers and co sponspors of terrorism or is it because its INDIAN BACKED TERRORISM

 

[koolio]

He doesnt need to. He's not here to win your approval. He stated the fact. Now that he is speaks the truth, all of your have begin abusing him.

Pakistan has no credibility whatsoever. There is distrust even among the Pakistanis about their government, and for one there is no coherence, the right hand doesnt know what the left is doing. No one knows whos calling the shots. Sometime back he said India carried out Lahore attack and the next day denied it. So we are better of believing 'credible' Americans.

Its high time Pakistan takes the advice of its own Air Marshal seriously, and stop blaming India, when the problem is created by you yourself.

So its ok for you imply your negative views about Pakistan blowing it out of proportions and I do not think you carry any credibility at all.

 

[koolio]

"...especially when Pakistans interior minister has said..."

Proof?

Trust me it's been presented to the Bush administration. Trust me that it's been presented to the Obama administration. Trust me that either that's the case and we found nothing to your "evidence" or nothing has been presented behind the scene as there's been nothing to present.

Either way, please make certain that you understand we don't believe you. Our policies and appropriations will be based upon our analysis. Not yours.

As such, you are welcome to speculate about your government's reactions but I guarantee that we can't more clearly express our positions than those comments made by Petraeus, Clinton, Gates, and Holbrooke.

How you view those comments is your matter but they are all collected and very much "for the record". Take it as you will but in addition to those comments by David Obey (D-Wis), the house appropriations chairman this week show clearly what trajectory the aid package is on.

Thanks.

What did Mr Bush do about it nothing if he had acted Baitullah mehsud would have been dead by now the intelligence was provided on his whereabouts Predators could have knocked him out but they didnt unfortunately.

So know you are trying to say Pakistans proof is crap.
Proof what proof where is the proof of IRAQS WMD?

 

[Sambha]

So are you trying to say its an Indian Proxy?

When did I say that?? I never said anything even remotely similar to your 'solution' of destroying the consulates.

If NATO is powerless to stop those barbarians crossing over from Afghanistan into Pakistan

They are Baluch separatists, they have nothing to do with NATO and Afghanistan.

no right to attack perpetrators financiers and co sponspors of terrorism or is it because its INDIAN BACKED TERRORISM

Yes, no right, and no one knows it better than India. We were never allowed to attack any of the training facilities in P-o-K.

The second half of the quote is result of your misplaced anger.

Btw I wonder why on earth you guys didn't blame India for assassination of Bhutto too !! you seem to be blaming India for almost everything then why was that favor??

 

[S-2]

"What did Mr Bush do about it nothing if he had acted Baitullah mehsud would have been dead by now the intelligence was provided on his whereabouts Predators could have knocked him out but they didnt unfortunately.

So know you are trying to say Pakistans proof is crap.
Proof what proof where is the proof of IRAQS WMD?"

Run-on sentences, failure to capitalize, or proper use of punctuation is a certain clue of rant behavior. In combination they connote a feverish rant. Review your comments to identify points of improvement or desist altogether.

My government sees no Indian involvement with Pakistani-related terror. No hidden hand there. Check with the gulf emirates and Saudi Arabia.

Hidden hands all over the wahabbis down that way. A lot of money too. Count on it and equal to what the militants make from dope according to Holbrooke-

U.S. Claims Gulf Donors Aid Taliban Fighters-Financial Times

Thanks.