No Aryan migration into India / Pakistan? Its' all a myth?

[desioptimist]

Who cares?..........we all came from adam anyway!!!!

And adam/eve are african.
So in the end all are african. Cheers.

 

[desioptimist]

we dont have anything to do with Pakistanis...we are indians and we are proud of it

gay hind

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lol.....who told u that??they lived in heaven first

And where is heaven, in africa obviously.
And gay pakistan too, I am not a homophobe or pakiphobe.

 

[Kinetic]

There's no such thing as Aryan in the Middle East and the subcontinent unless you belong to the Kalash tribe in Northern Pakistan (who many think have Greek or Macedonian roots).

The people of Middle East and the subcontinent usually have black hair, dark eyes, olive skin color (brown skin color in most of south asia) and have long noses.

Aryans look like Germans. Blonde hair, blue eyes, white skin color, small nose. Hitler used to measure the noses of his people and categorize people into Aryans and Jews by the lenghth of the person's noses. North Indians have among the longest noses in the planet so do some Pakistanis. Some Pakistanis and North Indians look more similar to Jews than Germans.

Aryans were Germans? Aryans had nothing to do with Germans before Nazi came. They destroyed the meaning of Aryans ie 'nobles' and the Swastika which is commonly used in India as a sign of GOODNESS.

Aryans were not just a race but cultural and mainly religious performers. There is nothing like Aryans were the best and rests were inferior to them as propagated by Nazis but its just another religious/cultural faith.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Aryans were not just a race but cultural and mainly religious performers. There is nothing like Aryans were the best and rests were inferior to them as propagated by Nazis but its just another religious/cultural faith.

Aryan has the male lineage of R1a1a.

 

[Omar1984]

Aryans were Germans? Aryans had nothing to do with Germans before Nazi came. They destroyed the meaning of Aryans ie 'nobles' and the Swastika which is commonly used in India as a sign of GOODNESS.

Aryans were not just a race but cultural and mainly religious performers. There is nothing like Aryans were the best and rests were inferior to them as propagated by Nazis but its just another religious/cultural faith.

Well what is the basis of your caste system then? The lighter skin Hindus were put in the high castes while the darker skinned Hindus were put in lower castes. Similar to the way Hilter discriminated against Jews and saw them inferior because of the length of their noses.

 

[Roybot]

Well what is the basis of your caste system then? The lighter skin Hindus were put in the high castes while the darker skinned Hindus were put in lower castes. Similar to the way Hilter discriminated against Jews and saw them inferior because of the length of their noses.

That most certainly isn't the base of caste system the shyte you guys come up with

 

[Omar1984]

That most certainly isn't the base of caste system the shyte you guys come up with

A 2001 genetic study, led by Michael Bamshad of University of Utah, found that the genetic affinity of Indians to Europeans is proportionate to caste rank, the upper castes being most similar to Europeans, whereas lower castes are more like Asians. The researchers believe that the Indo-European speakers entered India from the Northwest, admixing with or displacing the proto-Dravidian speakers. Subsequently they may have established a caste system and placed themselves primarily in higher castes. The study concludes that the Indian castes "are most likely to be of proto-Asian origin with West Eurasian admixture resulting in rank-related and sex-specific differences in the genetic affinities of castes to Asians and Europeans.".[2] Because the Indian samples for this study were taken from a single geographical area, it remains to be investigated whether its findings can be safely generalized.[3]

According to a 2006 study by Ismail Thanseem et al. of Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (India) "the vast majority (>98%) of the Indian maternal gene pool, consisting of Indo-European and Dravidian speakers, is genetically more or less uniform", while the invasions after the late Pleistocene settlement might have been mostly male-mediated.[6] The study concluded that the "lower caste groups might have originated with the hierarchical divisions that arose within the tribal groups with the spread of Neolithic agriculturalists, much earlier than the arrival of Aryan speakers", and "the Indo-Europeans established themselves as upper castes among this already developed caste-like class structure within the tribes." The study indicated that the Indian caste system may have its roots much before the arrival of the Indo-Aryan immigrants; a rudimentary version of the caste system may have emerged with the shift towards cultivation and settlements, and the divisions may have become more well-defined and intensified with the arrival of Indo-Aryans.

History of the Indian caste system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Roybot]

@Omar1984 from your own source,

The study concluded that the "lower caste groups might have originated with the hierarchical divisions that arose within the tribal groups with the spread of Neolithic agriculturalists, much earlier than the arrival of Aryan speakers", and "the Indo-Europeans established themselves as upper castes among this already developed caste-like class structure within the tribes."

The lighter skin Hindus were put in the high castes while the darker skinned Hindus were put in lower castes.

You think the above statement of yours and the source you provided is contradictory?

 

[Burger Boy]

gay hind together we shall rise and make a dravidian kingdom

 

[Kinetic]

Aryan has the male lineage of R1a1a.

R1a1a mostly found among Indians, Eastern Europeans (Russia, Ukraine, Poland), Scandinavia. They might have ancestral root but that doesn't mean we have any cultural, historical and religious similarities.


Aryans is just another faith, culture, social way of living like 'C those performed certain religious acts. Russians and Scandinavians don't do that so nothing to do with them.

 

[Omar1984]

@Omar1984 from your own source,

You think the above statement of yours and the source you provided is contradictory?

The point is that the Indo-Europeans foreigners established themselves as upper castes, therefore lighter skinned Hindus are on top of your caste system while darker skinned Hindus are in the bottom of your caste system, even though the low caste Hindus were the original inhabitants of India...

Therefore the Hindu caste system is a discriminatory system like the Nazi System in pre-world war 2 Germany.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

R1a1a mostly found in Indians, Eastern Europeans (Russia, Ukraine, Poland) and Scandinavia. They might have ancestral root but that doesn't mean we have any cultural, historical and religious similarities.


Aryans is just another faith, culture, social way of living like 'C those performed certain religious acts. Russians and Scandinavians don't do that so nothing to do with them.

The West Bengladeshis and the Tajiks are found around 70%, Russians/Ukranians/Poles around 50-60%, Scandinavians around 20-30%.

But many Russians still insist that Aryans originated from the Eastern Europe.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The point is that the Indo-Europeans foreigners established themselves as upper castes, therefore lighter skinned Hindus are on top of your caste system while darker skinned Hindus are in the bottom of your caste system, even though the low caste Hindus were the original inhabitants of India...

Therefore the Hindu caste system is a discriminatory system like the Nazi System in pre-world war 2 Germany.

Many Russians claimed that the ancient Aryans who established the caste system were Slavs.

 

[Kinetic]

The West Bengladeshis and Tajiks are found around 70%, Russians/Ukranians/Poles around 50-60%, Scandinavians around 20-30%.

But many Russians still insist that Aryans originated from the East Europe.

Just for the sake of DNA map, if we accept this than the frequency of R1a1a is highest in India, how Russian can claim that Eastern Europe is the origin?

While the earliest Aryan book Rigveda doesn't write anything beyond India.

 

[desioptimist]

R1a1a mostly found among Indians, Eastern Europeans (Russia, Ukraine, Poland), Scandinavia. They might have ancestral root but that doesn't mean we have any cultural, historical and religious similarities.


Aryans is just another faith, culture, social way of living like 'C those performed certain religious acts. Russians and Scandinavians don't do that so nothing to do with them.

Cultures and religions may change, but race (genes) does not. Aryans (central Asian hordes) migrated to many places, intermarried with locals, and they have different cultures and religions now.