Next war with opponents from Sangh pariwar will be different

[ManavKalia]

But there's also many marriages between Pakistanis and Turks/Iranians.




No such thing as a "desi". It's a false construct the Colonial British used to bunch all "Brown" people together as they could not tell us apart. Even now, an English person would mistake an olive Skinned Brazilian for a Pakistani. I've actually witness that happen. That doesn't make Brazilians "desi" though.

People from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka who are living outside their country of origin, refer to themselves as Desi.

Ever heard the term FBCD, foreign born confused Desi?

 

[Samurai_assassin]

'was'

Pakistan is the least of world's worries at this moment as they already have too much to deal with. But from to time World has raised concerns about Pak's capability to secure nuke's. It is in Pakistan's best interest to avoid war so as to not draw any unwanted attention.

Funny PK has much more robust security of its nuke unlike Indias recent incidents. Indias attempt to constantly highlight this issue and ignore its own concerns is more like a desi msssi constantly poking its nose in other's affairs.

 

[dadeechi]

With the advent of nuclear weapons, the threat of conventional war will be curtailed to limited theatres along LoC like kaargil or surgical strikes, instead of full blown war, so you can sleep easy on that count.

As a Pakistani you should be worried most about your second point, as India already has a missile defence, and is working with various other countries to develop and strengthen it further. That is where it scores tellingly over Pakistan currently, and I only see that gap increasing in the future.

There is high possibility that Pakistan would sport HQ-9s prior to India sporting S-400s.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

T

But there's also many marriages between Pakistanis and Turks/Iranians.




No such thing as a "desi". It's a false construct the Colonial British used to bunch all "Brown" people together as they could not tell us apart. Even now, an English person would mistake an olive Skinned Brazilian for a Pakistani. I've actually witness that happen. That doesn't make Brazilians "desi" though.

these marriages do exist but low im number compared to marriages between Pak, Indian and Bangladeshis.

 

[Verve]

'was'

Pakistan is the least of world's worries at this moment as they already have too much to deal with. But from to time World has raised concerns about Pak's capability to secure nuke's. It is in Pakistan's best interest to avoid war so as to not draw any unwanted attention.

It will be in India's best interest not to attack Pakistan, which it will because of the hatred for us. We have no Akhand Bharat type wishes so there no need for our army to cross international borders.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

T

these marriages do exist but low im number compared to marriages between Pak, Indian and Bangladeshis.

Lower because they have started recently. But the trend of Pakistanis marrying Turks/Persians and Arabs is massively increasing.

People from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka who are living outside their country of origin, refer to themselves as Desi.

Ever heard the term FBCD, foreign born confused Desi?

Out of all those nations mentioned, Pakistanis have the least in common with the others. All Pakistanis I have ever known have always referred to themselves as "Pakistanis" or "Muslims".

 

[Verve]

Not really. Maybe the older generation to some extent. But the younger generation of both indians and Pakistanis hardly mix much. They both have nothing in common with one another. The younger generation of Pakistanis mix really well with other Muslim communities wheras indians tend to mix with their own and white people. UK indians keep well away from Pakistanis and other Muslims.

Yes the older generation and especially those who are not born here.

And true, younger generations do not mix at all. Although fights are not uncommon in universities such as Leicester between Indians and Pakistanis.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

People from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka who are living outside their country of origin, refer to themselves as Desi.

Ever heard the term FBCD, foreign born confused Desi?

This may have been true in the 1980s and 90s but the past 15 years Pak, Indian & Bedesh Muslims are finding unity and a connection through thier shared faith because of the continued media assault on Islam. The whole desi movement is mainly includes Hindus and Sikhs.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

This may have been true in the 1980s and 90s but the past 15 years Pak, Indian & Bedesh Muslims are finding unity and a connection through thier shared faith because of the continued media assault on Islam. The whole desi movement is mainly includes Hindus and Sikhs.

Not just between them but between ALL Muslim communities based in the UK. This includes Arabs, Turks and Iranians.

 

[ManavKalia]

There is high possibility that Pakistan would sport HQ-9s prior to India sporting S-400s.

You are totally missing the point. Please read rest of my posts in this thread. ABM is nuclear deterrence, where even partial effectiveness with ABM, is preferable to no effectiveness if you don't have ABM.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Lower because they have started recently. But the trend of Pakistanis marrying Turks/Persians and Arabs is massively increasing.




Out of all those nations mentioned, Pakistanis have the least in common with the others. All Pakistanis I have ever known have always referred to themselves as "Pakistanis" or "Muslims".

Low in number because Turkd Arabs North Africans are not found in every part of the U.K. Except in large cities and London. Pakistanis are spread in almost every town and city were Indians and Bangladeshis also reside allowing more chance of interaction at school college university.

 

[ManavKalia]

Lower because they have started recently. But the trend of Pakistanis marrying Turks/Persians and Arabs is massively increasing.




Out of all those nations mentioned, Pakistanis have the least in common with the others. All Pakistanis I have ever known have always referred to themselves as "Pakistanis" or "Muslims".

All the Pakistanis I know in UK and USA refer to themselves as Pakistani, Muslim or Desi equivalently.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Hh

Not just between them but between ALL Muslim communities based in the UK. This includes Arabs, Turks and Iranians.

The message was I response to who is defined as a desi

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes the older generation and especially those who are not born here.

And true, younger generations do not mix at all. Although fights are not uncommon in universities such as Leicester between Indians and Pakistanis.

Don't even hear of fights no more. Mixing between indians and Pakistanis is non-existent. We don't have anything in common with indians like we do with other Muslims so it's difficult to relate to and feel comfortable with them.

 

[Verve]

You are totally missing the point. Please read rest of my posts in this thread. ABM is nuclear deterrence, where even partial effectiveness with ABM, is preferable to no effectiveness if you don't have ABM.

Question is 'Will Indian ABM work against short range battlefield Pak nukes on advancing Indian Army on Pakistani soil'!?