Next war with opponents from Sangh pariwar will be different

[Samurai_assassin]

I'm talking about the rise of Islamophobia in the west. You're talking about something else.

Buddy there was virtually no islmaphobia prior to 9/11. I remember the worst thing a white nationalist could call anybody was a black/**** B**tard. There was no such attack on anybody's faith, religious customs, buildings or dress. Such things never existed. I gather certain incidents created a division between Muslims and non Muslims but it initially dovisions started to appear in the year 2000 when people protested in the UK about Israles treatment of the Palestinians and the intifada.

Yes and no. Internet debates and tv shows, contribute to propaganda war, so they have a practical value to that extent.

 

[ravi gupta]

I clearly remember those comments from indian so called "experts". Will try to find it and post it here. Bit I remember one indian politician in particular was advocating nuking Pakistan on Chanel 4 news (UK 19:00HRS) in late May 1998. Those comments are stuck in my head. His justification was that Pakistan could never retaliate and that the americans had done it to the Japanese so the indians should be allowed to do it to us. That's when I realised the TRUE intentions of the indian race towards Pakistan. And that anything an indian says is worth less than toilet paper.

With regards to Pakistan not having a 2nd or 3rd strike capability any time soon?...... indra ghandi once said in the early 80s that Pakistan would not have nukes in a 100 years. That was another usual indian fail with regards to Pakistan.

Yes,agreed you have succeed in getting nuke in 90s,however this not guarantee that you will be able to get ABM or secound strike capabality in future.

Why do you consider nukes as just toys? And battlefield nukes? u will nuke your own land. but you have forgotten that any nuclear attack, TNW or strategic will be responded by full scale second strike. It is like you have an AK 47 and a 9 mm pistol. Your opponent has an AK 47 but he said he will not fire first. You underestimate your opponent and you fire your 9 mm and cause a flesh wound hoping he doesnt respond but in response he will fire the whole magazine of AK 47

A good comparision between TNW and strategic Nuke.That way India will be free from NFU and any strike from TNW will be retaliate by strategic NUKE.
So actually NASR is disadvantage to pakistan.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes,agreed you have sucked in getting nuke in 90s,however this not guarantee that you will be able to get ABM or secound strike capabality in future.

????????????..........Pakistan DOES have nuclear weapons. And on top of that, since early 2011, Pakistan has had the ability to produce Fusion bombs, H-bombs and thermonuclear weapons:

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...g-nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/

The hardest and most challenging part for Pakistan has already been achieved. Building a 2nd and 3rd strike capability is an elementary follow to those achievements.

Pakistan managed to became a nuclear weapons state when the odds seemed impossible. We are now much more stronger, powerful, advanced and have easier access to more advanced weapons systems. For us to build an ABM system would be far easier than becoming a nuclear weapons state. But we need to ensure that the ABM system is very credible before we embark on such a program.

 

[Verve]

Why do you consider nukes as just toys? And battlefield nukes? u will nuke your own land. but you have forgotten that any nuclear attack, TNW or strategic will be responded by full scale second strike. It is like you have an AK 47 and a 9 mm pistol. Your opponent has an AK 47 but he said he will not fire first. You underestimate your opponent and you fire your 9 mm and cause a flesh wound hoping he doesnt respond but in response he will fire the whole magazine of AK 47

Wow .. gangsters ... so you'd invade Pak, then if tactical nukes are used on Pak soil against your units then they'll attack with conventional nukes.

If Indian Army crosses in to Pakistan, then be ready for tactical nukes on our soil. We built them to use them! If your response is full on nuke war then so be it.

A few decades to go. We'll be waiting for you when you've completely lost the plot and step on our soil.

 

[ravi gupta]

Wow .. gangsters ... so you'd invade Pak, then if tactical nukes are used on Pak soil against your units then they'll attack with conventional nukes.

If Indian Army crosses in to Pakiaran, then be ready for tactical nukes on our soil. We built them to use them! If your response is full on nuke war then so be it.

A few decades to go. We'll be waiting for you when you've completely lost the plot and step on our soil.

If you attack by nuclear weapon,we will retaliate by nuke according to our nuclear doctrine.Since we have NFU i.e no first use policy.
Even if we want to NUKE you we cant becoz of NFU,we will be waiting for your mistake of firing first to us.

 

[Verve]

If you attack by nuclear weapon,we will retaliate by nuke according to our nuclear doctrine.Since we have NFU i.e no first use policy.
Even if we want to NUKE you we cant becoz of NFU,we will be waiting for your mistake of firing first to us.

Simply don't send your armies in to Pakistan then.

 

[ravi gupta]

Simply don't send your armies in to Pakistan then.

That is the error we want to you to do,Fire small TNW to free from NFU.
The huge disadvantage your NASR carries.

 

[Verve]

This is interesting that Hallucinating Hindu is now saying that PA's use of battlefield nukes on Pakistani soil will lead to a full scale nuclear retaliation by these scums on our civilians and cities!

 

[Navin A]

This is interesting that Hallucinating Hindu is now saying that PA's use of battlefield nukes on Pakistani soil will lead to a full scale nuclear retaliation by these scums on our civilians and cities!

Brilliant choice of words, "SCUMS" - the level of maturity... what was stated was a mere fact, judging from 2nd and 3rd strike capability. Its no rocket science, that eventuality will end up in a nuclear holocaust for Pakistan and India vice versa!

 

[Soumitra]

This is interesting that Hallucinating Hindu is now saying that PA's use of battlefield nukes on Pakistani soil will lead to a full scale nuclear retaliation by these scums on our civilians and cities!

It is part of our nuclear doctrine. How hard it is to understand

Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India warns Pak

NEW DELHI: India will retaliate massively even if Pakistan uses tactical nuclear weapons against it. With Pakistan developing "tactical" nuclear warheads, that is, miniaturizing its weapons to be carried on short-range missiles, India will protect its security interests by retaliating to a "smaller" tactical attack in exactly the same manner as it would respond to a "big" strategic attack.

Articulating Indian nuclear policy in this regard for the first time, Shyam Saran, convener of the National Security Advisory Board, said, "India will not be the first to use nuclear weapons, but if it is attacked with such weapons, it would engage in nuclear retaliation which will be massive and designed to inflict unacceptable damage on its adversary. The label on a nuclear weapon used for attacking India, strategic or tactical, is irrelevant from the Indian perspective." This is significant, because Saran was placing on record India's official nuclear posture with the full concurrence of the highest levels of nuclear policymakers in New Delhi.

Giving a speech on India's nuclear deterrent recently, Saran placed India's nuclear posture in perspective in the context of recent developments, notably the "jihadist edge" that Pakistan's nuclear weapons capability have acquired.

Saran argued that as a result of its tactical weapons, Pakistan believes it has brought down the threshold of nuclear use. "Pakistani motivation is to dissuade India from contemplating conventional punitive retaliation to sub-conventional but highly destructive and disruptive cross-border terrorist strikes such as the horrific 26/11 attack on Mumbai. What Pakistan is signalling to India and to the world is that India should not contemplate retaliation even if there is another Mumbai because Pakistan has lowered the threshold of nuclear use to the theatre level. This is nothing short of nuclear blackmail, no different from the irresponsible behaviour one witnesses in North Korea," he said.

One of the main reasons for Pakistan miniaturizing its nukes is actually to keep its weapons from being confiscated or neutralized by the US, a fear that has grown in the Pakistani establishment in the wake of the operation against Osama bin Laden. "Pakistan has, nevertheless, projected its nuclear deterrent as solely targeted at India and its strategic doctrine mimics the binary nuclear equation between the US and the Soviet Union which prevailed during the Cold War," Saran said.


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[Samurai_assassin]

Simply don't send your armies in to Pakistan then.

A friend of mine recently returned back to the UK from his annual trip to his ancestral village in Pak Punjab. The village is a quiet peaceful place were life has never really changed. This time what was different the villagers were fully armed and ready to defend Pakistan agaisnt any Indian aggression. Thousands of villages in Pakistan are fully armed and prepared for any future confrontation.

 

[ravi gupta]

This is interesting that Hallucinating Hindu is now saying that PA's use of battlefield nukes on Pakistani soil will lead to a full scale nuclear retaliation by these scums on our civilians and cities!

Thats the point we want to make that is you fire NUKE(any kind of NUKE) on us,we will retaliate.

And if not, no need to worry we have NFU.

 

[Verve]

Brilliant choice of words, "SCUMS" - the level of maturity... what was stated was a mere fact, judging from 2nd and 3rd strike capability. Its no rocket science, that eventuality will end up in a nuclear holocaust for Pakistan and India vice versa!

If you come to our home with peace and good intentions and without arms, we will welcome you as our guests and treat you as beat we can.

However if you force your way in with arms, or talk about forcing your way in, then clearly and appropriately you will be labeled as robbers, murderers and scums.

 

[ravi gupta]

A friend of mine recently returned back to the UK from his annual trip to his ancestral village in Pak Punjab. The village is a quiet peaceful place were life has never really changed. This time what was different the villagers were fully armed and ready to defend Pakistan agaisnt any Indian aggression. Thousands of villages in Pakistan are fully armed and prepared for any future confrontation.

Thats OK,if they want to defend there motherland by conventional arms.
However if you want to fire NUKE or TNW in INDIA or in your territory on advancing Indian mechanized forces,will follow full scale retaliation,thats the point i want to make.
Thats the point OP want to make that next conflict there wont be congress,but by military fully back by NDA government.
I hope its clear.

 

[Verve]

Thats OK,if they want to defend there motherland by conventional arms.
However if you want to fire NUKE or TNW in INDIA or in your territory on advancing Indian mechanized forces,will follow full scale retaliation,thats the point i want to make.
I hope its clear.

I hope it's clear to you too that sending in your armies will be YOU initiating a nuclear war.

There will be no full scale conventional war IF your forces enter Pakistan. We built the nuclear weapons for our defence and will use them in our defence too.