New York prepares for Mumbai-style attack

[JonAsad]

The americans are smart.. They will take control of the situation in matter of hours.

In india..mumbai... 26/11 first couple of hours were given to media to show the world what is happening there, they blame pakistan, gathered sympathy.... and when the trap was set then they took action which itself took 3 days., and caught the guy being shown from the first day in the media alive.

 

[DGMO]

Agree that the US response would be much more effective than Mumbai.

One of the criticisms of Mumbai was how poorly equipped the police were. WW2 rifles and sticks aren't much help against AK-47's and other automatic weapons. Then there was response timings, with the NSG waiting for transportation to take them to Mumbai being based in Delhi I think. In India's defence, the unique and brazen nature of the attack was unexpected and preparation for such an event wasn't there.

However, one must also bear in mind that IF a highly trained and determined group of 6 or 7 people with automatic weapons, grenades etc. went on a hardened rampage in a crowded city, then it would only take 15 or so minutes before you had a body count of 50-100 people.

I don't think that's an exaggeration.

 

[Hulk]

The americans are smart.. They will take control of the situation in matter of hours.

In india..mumbai... 26/11 first couple of hours were given to media to show the world what is happening there, they blame pakistan, gathered sympathy.... and when the trap was set then they took action which itself took 3 days., and caught the guy being shown from the first day in the media alive.

I agree Mumbai took longer because of India's response. The fact is our politician while they remain protected by commandos never made any attempt to mordenize police force. Do you expect people with Lathis and pistol to take over terrorist with AK-47?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

well why the hell should police have just laathis in the first place? In occupied Kashmir, maybe.....but in what is ACTUALLY hindustan, you would think that with all the military procurements, they wouldnt have forgotten about the police forces

it goes without saying that the approach during the mumbai drama was inefficient and resulted in more lost lives than what would have been the case in most other countries

 

[DesiGuy]

well why the hell should police have just laathis in the first place? In occupied Kashmir, maybe.....but in what is ACTUALLY hindustan, you would think that with all the military procurements, they wouldnt have forgotten about the police forces

it goes without saying that the approach during the mumbai drama was inefficient and resulted in more lost lives than what would have been the case in most other countries

why do you always feel the urge to Flame?

Answer me, man.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

sorry you interpret it that way.....

my views mirror those of some international officials who needn't be named

 

[DesiGuy]

and those some International officials would always be one-sided.

try to understand those other some international officials whose views does not mirror of yours.

 

[DGMO]

well why the hell should police have just laathis in the first place? In occupied Kashmir, maybe.....but in what is ACTUALLY hindustan, you would think that with all the military procurements, they wouldnt have forgotten about the police forces

it goes without saying that the approach during the mumbai drama was inefficient and resulted in more lost lives than what would have been the case in most other countries

Yaar, yes laathi's are no good, but again, understand that this was a very unique occurence.

They had to act following 26/11 as it was an eye-opener and they have. Here's a report from November 2009:

Efforts are also on to ensure that police are equipped to combat the terrorists.

The state government plans to spend Rs 630 crore on modernising its force; this will mean an upgraded anti-terrorist squad, better weaponry and equipment and state-of-the-art control rooms.

"The state authorities are also raising a special commando unit called Force One, with 238 recruits undergoing training near Pune. Soon Mumbai will also be wrapped in CCTVs," says Shivanandhan.

In the last six months, metal detectors, dog squads and gun-toting security personnel behind sandbags have been positioned at important installations across the city. These include railway stations, airports, ports, malls, multiplexes and deluxe hotels.​

IBN Live

And another:

Bought mainly from the US and Germany, the new weapons include MP5, MP9 and colt firearms. “Earlier, we used pistols, SLRs and AK-47s. These modern weapons, which were till now only used by the paramilitary forces, are now also with the city police,” said Himanshu Roy, joint commissioner of police, law and order.

Sub machine gun MP5 SD4
Sub machine gun MP5K Navy
Sub machine gun A5
Bullet-proof helmets
Bullet-proof jackets
COLT M4 Flattop Carbine 5.56 mm
MP9 Tactical Machine Pistol (semi-automatic)
COLT M203
Under barrel grenade launcher
M82 Law Enforcement rifle
Mine-proof Marksman
Bullet-proof Rakshak
Combat Mobile
Light-armed vehicle​

DNA India

We saw what happened with the Sri Lankan team in Lahore. Our police let how many terrorists escape? These daredevil attacks are not easy to combat, but lessons need to be learned and steps taken to minimise their effect or occurence in the future.

Everyone is doing that, whether it's the Indians, the Americans or us Pakistani's. We should just pray such an event doesn't strike again anywhere in the world.

Better preparation through intelligence-gathering and equipment will be paramount in such an event.

 

[Bhim]

Mumbai was by surprise, just as in UK tube bombing.
US doesn't wanna be taken by surprise, it already has had one rude 9/11 surprise.

The drone attacks will kill the hardened local terrorists, but not those already inside US or Europe. These are the sleeper cells, ready for action at appropriate time.

 

[Hulk]

why do you always feel the urge to Flame?

Answer me, man.

I give you hint, his color changed from blue to red. That will tell you why?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

There are alot of ppl in USA , I don't know the show but its on alot in US channels ppl with guns doing stupid things on network channels -

Nothing new just paranoia , if something already exists in USA why are ppl or why should ppl worry - its not like US cities are innocent and virgin cities some how the big bad wolf called taliban will do something sinister -

There are gangs doing killing in US , there is underworld doing multimillion dollar business there is illegal drug , illegal human trafficing all sort of evil , and YES even ppl with guns doing stuff not long ago someone rammed a plane into IRS building etc "angry person" etc

Do US cities have no gangs incidents with guns ?? Nope so just paranoia guns are sold in US for 100 bucks


And New York is not center of the Universe its a city it had its problem 10 years ago end of story , alot ppl suffer incidences and problems

Obviously there is no hollywood glorification and cnn promoting it every year but stuff happens all the time

So may be .. ppl should focus on fixing their own country first before they go try to fix other nations

YouTube - Gangs In The USA

YouTube - R Kemp on Gangs - USA (Part 1-5)

 

[silent hill]

so we will see ajmal kasab travelling in fishing boat and reaching new york from karachi now??

 

[silent hill]

Mumbai was by surprise, just as in UK tube bombing.
US doesn't wanna be taken by surprise, it already has had one rude 9/11 surprise.

The drone attacks will kill the hardened local terrorists, but not those already inside US or Europe. These are the sleeper cells, ready for action at appropriate time.

where does drone attack come here???, you actually imply all world terrorists are born in pakistan??

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I give you hint, his color changed from blue to red. That will tell you why?

keep telling yourself that if it makes u feel better


just for the record, I requested Taimur not to make me a TT. The 'NSA' title however did cause some offence to people and in the interests of not making issues out of non-issues the title was removed.

you are probably the 20,000th indian to bring it up today and it's mildly amusing.


DGMO --thanks for the head's up. I would hope that a mumbai like incident took place nowhere else in the world ever again. Nobody enjoys to see such a high number of fatalities, especially of civilians.


it's best to just be prepared; and to dig deep and find reasons as to WHY some individuals would carry out such an act

 

[Hulk]

keep telling yourself that if it makes u feel better


just for the record, I requested Taimur not to make me a TT. The 'NSA' title however did cause some offence to people and in the interests of not making issues out of non-issues the title was removed.

you are probably the 20,000th indian to bring it up today and it's mildly amusing.


DGMO --thanks for the head's up. I would hope that a mumbai like incident took place nowhere else in the world ever again. Nobody enjoys to see such a high number of fatalities, especially of civilians.


it's best to just be prepared; and to dig deep and find reasons as to WHY some individuals would carry out such an act

Apologies if it sounds abusing, however I was thinking I am the first one to notice.