IAF used Russian Doctrine and that was impressive as well they are told to attack from the top, We on the other hand in those days were taught attack from under why the hunter and specially Gnat used to pick up speeds which were than hard to controll if he got a shot he got you if he missed than you turn by the time he is closing down to get behind you , The pipper is on him, If the pilot is good and turns quickly than you who are going up go towards the sun and let your wing man take him out or go for the nearest cloud if any. IAF pilot knew that Gnat thrust to power ratio was higher than the saber so he would get next to you and wait who stalls first he is dead , I have never seen a Gnat stall in a dogfight on the other hand the F-86E we had were very under powered compared to Gnat. IAF used to wait that the pilot goes into a stall and by the time he is recovering he took you out. A lot of you old guys if you were in lahore saw me over Badshahi Masjad doing a dog fight with a Gnat and a hunter, From what I gather the Hunter went winchester and he thought that why not just bump into this saber on the other side Gnat was wing to wing with me so I stall. I knew that my saber would go in a stall so I just thought a move my IP tought me he said it might save you or it might kill you so only used it when you know you are about to get hit. ( Trade Secret) . Well you saw the hunter going down. People of lahore ( Lahore is lahore) they were so happy to see the hunter going down that night 2FF at loc got 200 Dages of Pulaoo.