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Who ever put this clause in hajj application form, whoever is Suadi regime slave.... should know ...This Pakistan founder was Shia Quaid e azam, First person who finance Pakistan State Bank was Shia " The Raja of Mehammudabad" . Because of this person money Pakistan setup the banking system, A person who gave the first constitution to Pakistan was Shia , A person who made Pakistan Nuclear Pakistan was Shia , A person who brought back 90,000 POW was Shia , A person who brought China closer to Pakistan is Shia..........Z A Bhutto.......Tell these camel jockeys ....don't play the religious fabric of Pakistan ....Your are the one who attack Kabba with the help of British empire in early 1900, kick out Turks and starved them to death....killed thousands of Turks twin holy cities......this list will go on and on and on......if you hate so much Shia then what you doing in Pakistan....every week send a religious leader in Pakistan for what ?????.....These wahabi dogs destroy Pakistan .....thousands of Shai families already migrated from Pakistan...those are cream of crop of Pakistan...Due to this religious terrorism Pakistan best brain is outside of Pakistan ,,many of them are serving in US space industry .....what a fuuucking shame....these wahabie brought all there hatred in Pakistan and destroy whole country .....to hell with Ummah and to hell with Islam ka killa.......fuuuck em all.....be Pakistani first...if you want to save your country ....no shia , no sunni ...
 
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Again, the Islamic Republics long, long history of supporting international terror and meddling in other countries, as she is doing right now in Yemen!, negates your moral outrage. ALL states "meddle" to protect their interests. Iran is no different. And is one free to run for any office today without the approval of Iran's religious authorities? No!

How your words related to the discussion? it was about mutual ties that was cut by Americans , Whatever you wanna call it foreign policy or meddling ... in fact every nation do enjoy right to take necessary measures to make sure no one would meddle in their internal affair.. that's all ....
And in Yemen, it''s your ally Saudis who bombing civilian not Iran .... and imposed blockade on them not Iran.
And about democracy, none of your allies in the ME has democracy all of them are full monarchies without any election countries ruled base on sperm ... no cinstitution even women have no right to drive ....
IR was voted by Iranian .. those who wrote constitution were voted directly by people .. and constitution again was voted by people ... since then 36 elections have been held in Iran by high turn out like 70% or 85% ... what about your turnout? name a president out of demcorats or republicans .. can you? no ...
And do remember it was American who funded and created jihadist ..:

 
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How your words related to the discussion? it was about mutual ties that was cut by Americans
Again, our ties were literally cut when you invaded American sovereign ground and criminally kidnapped our diplomats! Are you just not getting that!?! o_O How is it that we Americans cut ties, when our ambassador was being held at gunpoint, as a hostage? YOUR country committed an overt act of war by doing so, and your leaders have called for America's destruction, year after year, since then. Why on earth would America ever want to restore normal relations with your country, while the current regime is in power there, calling for my country's destruction?
 
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Again, our ties were literally cut when you invaded American sovereign ground and criminally kidnapped our diplomats! Are you just not getting that!?! o_O How is it that we Americans cut ties, when our ambassador was being held at gunpoint, as a hostage? YOUR country committed an overt act of war by doing so, and your leaders have called for America's destruction, year after year, since then. Why on earth would America ever want to restore normal relations with your country, while the current regime is in power there, calling for my country's destruction?

No. That is wrong. US itself has bombed embassies eg. the Chinese embassy and taken diplomats hostages eg. Iranian diplomats in Iraq. But the history goes back much farther than your petite memory. It was US that invaded a Sovereign Country and held a nation at gun point: 1953 Iranian coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Got that now?

Your leaders have threatened to nuke Iran. Your leaders shot down Iran Air Flight 655. Your leaders lent US navy to Saddam to attack Iran.

Got that now?
 
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They should've been smart enough not to let a grammatical mistake slip in on an official form - one person would be shii.

Humour aside, someone who has applied told me that groups are being forms by the banks that are accepting applications, and because complete strangers may find themselves on the same 16-member group, they administration has taken into account possibly (I'm not sure whether, and which) slightly different practices of the shia and are forming shii groups headed by a shii. Well, at this rate, someday there could be separate bareelawi groups, different salafi ones (funny people, these ones) et cetera.
 
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Again, our ties were literally cut when you invaded American sovereign ground and criminally kidnapped our diplomats! Are you just not getting that!?! o_O How is it that we Americans cut ties, when our ambassador was being held at gunpoint, as a hostage? YOUR country committed an overt act of war by doing so, and your leaders have called for America's destruction, year after year, since then. Why on earth would America ever want to restore normal relations with your country, while the current regime is in power there, calling for my country's destruction?

And I am telling you in 1979 you reaped what you had sowed during supporting a dictator .. why Iranian didn't seize Spanish embassy? entire Iran had been taken hostage by your country before revolution and it's okay by your standards and you label it at as foreign policy but you constantly condemn Iranian for what they did back then .. Dear @Desertfalcon I am not saying what they did was completely true but it wasn't about hating Americans .. as I said Iranian were afraid you might again do a military coup ...

If we called for America's destruction you went for Iranian's destruction :

Exclusive CIA files prove America helped Saddam as he gassed iran
 
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This article is about Mecca and Medina, just read this article and understand what the satanic sect has done to "Mecca and Medina", house of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) house of Khadija wife of prophet, 90% of historical sites in Mecca which were built about 1400 years ago.
It is very sad but true.




Saudis say No to the Prophet Muhammad, Yes to Paris Hilton
Omid Safi | Nov 26, 2012 | Comments (138)

featuring…. Paris Hilton.


Here was Paris Hilton’s excited tweet:

Loving my beautiful new store that just opened at Mecca Mall in Saudi Arabia!
Paris Hilton

So this is what it has come to. The so-called “Guardians of the two sanctuaries” bulldoze Islamic history, tear down the houses associated with the Prophet and his family, and in its place put up shopping malls by vapid symbols of the most crass capitalistic materialism the world has to offer. No wonder many are talking about the transformation of Mecca into another Las Vegas.

Yes, the Saudis have bulldozed:



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*An Ottoman Fortress overlooking and protecting Mecca, plus a whole mountain, was removed to put down the monstrosity known as the Mecca Royal Clock-Tower, aka “Big Ben on crack.”

*The house the Prophet was born in, currently a library, is under consideration for destruction.

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*The house of the Prophet’s wife, Khadija, who is referred to by Muslims as the “Mother of the Faithful” was recently torn down, and in its place a row of toilets were established.

*Old Ottoman and Abbasid columns will likely be torn down to make room for a 680 million dollar expansion of the Great Mosque.



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*The old historic cemeteries of Jannat al-Baqi, containing the remains of the descendants of the Prophet, have been bulldozed, and nothing but a dirt mound remains of the former shrines there.

Sami Angawi, the director of the Hajj Research Center which is trying to preserve what’s left of the Islamic heritage of Saudi Arabia says of the Saudi state:

“They are turning the holy sanctuary into a machine, a city which has no identity, no heritage, no culture and no natural environment. They've even taken away the mountains.”

Often the excuse is used that with the global increase in the number of Muslims coming to Mecca, these expansions are necessary to accommodate these pilgrims. However, there is no reason why the hotels for the pilgrims couldn’t be put outside the historical center of Mecca, thus preserving the monuments.



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Furthermore, in place of these historical monuments, many of which hold a sacred significance to all Muslims outside of the Wahhabi sect, the Saudi state is building five star hotels that cost as much as $7,000 a night. In other words, these policies are not only bulldozing the history of Islam, they are also subverting the radical egalitarian teachings of Islam most beautifully symbolized in the rich and poor standing shoulder to shoulder wearing simple unadorned clothing in the House of the One God. Now the poor teeming masses are below, and the ultra-rich can reside in their 5-star suites looking down at the Ka’ba. Lastly, these absurd towers even displace the very symbolism and centrality of the Ka’ba.



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La hawla wa la quwwata illa bi Allah.

"They paved Paradise,
Put up a parking lot."


The Saudis make a great deal of their honorific as the “Caretaker of the two Noble Sanctuaries” in Mecca and Medina. One has to wonder about a kind of Care that says no to the legacy of Muhammad, bulldozes it, and invites Paris Hilton in its place. These shrines, these historical sites, indeed Mecca and Medina, do not belong to the Saudi state. They are treasures belonging to the worldwide Muslim population, indeed the whole of humanity (as the Prophet was sent as a Mercy to all the Universes). If the Saudis insist on calling themselves the caretakers of the two sanctuaries, their first task should be in fact to take care of them--and not bulldoze them. If they can not or will do not so, then someone else has to step up to provide care for these historical and sacred heritages of humanity.

The Prophet Muhammad once said that Islam began in this world as a stranger, and it will someday return as a stranger.

In looking at the uber-Capitalist, history-bulldozing practice of the Saudi/Wahhabi state, one cannot help but cry at the strange kind of Islam that now rules over the House of God and the home of the Prophet.

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When Ahemdis can be asked to file forms why not Shias?
 
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Who ever put this clause in hajj application form, whoever is Suadi regime slave.... should know ...This Pakistan founder was Shia Quaid e azam, First person who finance Pakistan State Bank was Shia " The Raja of Mehammudabad" . Because of this person money Pakistan setup the banking system, A person who gave the first constitution to Pakistan was Shia , A person who made Pakistan Nuclear Pakistan was Shia , A person who brought back 90,000 POW was Shia , A person who brought China closer to Pakistan is Shia..........Z A Bhutto.......Tell these camel jockeys ....don't play the religious fabric of Pakistan ....Your are the one who attack Kabba with the help of British empire in early 1900, kick out Turks and starved them to death....killed thousands of Turks twin holy cities......this list will go on and on and on......if you hate so much Shia then what you doing in Pakistan....every week send a religious leader in Pakistan for what ?????.....These wahabi dogs destroy Pakistan .....thousands of Shai families already migrated from Pakistan...those are cream of crop of Pakistan...Due to this religious terrorism Pakistan best brain is outside of Pakistan ,,many of them are serving in US space industry .....what a fuuucking shame....these wahabie brought all there hatred in Pakistan and destroy whole country .....to hell with Ummah and to hell with Islam ka killa.......fuuuck em all.....be Pakistani first...if you want to save your country ....no shia , no sunni ...
Indeed Saudis are the worst enemies of Islam from beginning of Islam.
 
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No. That is wrong. US itself has bombed embassies eg. the Chinese embassy
A mistake we apologized for and paid compensation for...

" In August, the U.S. government made a "voluntary humanitarian payment" of $4.5 million to the families of the three Chinese nationals who were killed and to the 27 injured in the bombing.[13] On December 16, 1999, the two governments reached a settlement under which the United States agreed to pay $28 million in compensation for damage to the Chinese Embassy facility, and China agreed to pay $2.87 million in compensation for damage inflicted to the U.S. Embassy and other diplomatic facilities in China.".

and taken diplomats hostages eg. Iranian diplomats in Iraq.

Well yes, of course. Our countries have been in a state of war since November 4, 1979. We have NO formal diplomatic relations since your act of war against us and your government's repeated calls for my country's destruction.

But the history goes back much farther than your petite memory. It was US that invaded a Sovereign Country and held a nation at gun point: 1953 Iranian coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Got that now?
No, and neither does your own source, which states NOTHING about any American invasion.

Your leaders have threatened to nuke Iran. Your leaders shot down Iran Air Flight 655. Your leaders lent US navy to Saddam to attack Iran.

Got that now?
Yes, I get that we have been in a state of war since your government attacked our embassy. Yes, we shot down IA flight 655 while we were actively engaged in a naval battle with Iran's navy, (Again, we were at war!)...

"the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the loss of lives caused by the incident...".[15]As part of the settlement, the United States did not admit legal liability but agreed to pay on an ex gratia basis US$61.8 million, amounting to $213,103.45 per passenger, in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims."

And again, we didn't "lend" Saddam Hussein our navy as we were actively and directly engaged in combat with your country that had been in a continual state of war with us since 1979.
 
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Saudi asked for sunni only soldiers from Pakistan and the army said f*** off. KSA is the birth place of ISIS we seem to keep on forgetting.
 
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No, It's not only for Pakistan - this has been there in standard application form of KSA. http://www.dawntravels.com/pdf/download-umrah-visa-requirements.pdf
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It seems that it is only for Pakistanis: Saudis want Pakistan Shias identified | The Asian Age

Amid the Saudi Arabia-led airstrikes on Yemen, Riyadh has asked Pakistan to identify Shias who wish to perform the next Haj in September this year.
In the fresh Haj application released by the Pakistani government under the instructions of the Saudi authorities, a new question, “Are you Shia?”, has been inserted. The addition of this question comes at a time when many Muslims think Saudi Arabia is leading a Sunni war against Shia Houthis in Yemen.
 
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Can our Ahle Tashih brothers from Pakistan put light on that...
 
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@Desertfalcon

Please do not play the innocent,here.I dont want to repeat the crimes your country committed against my country nor I want you to repeat what my country has committed against your national interest.but off course your savage acts are not in par with that of my country when it comes to inhumanity and barbarism.especially shooting down a passenger jet and committing coup against the only democratic government of Iran.you should notice that it took a hundred years for us to establish such a system and God knows how long it will take to establish the similar government.

Also you should notice in 1980, It wasnt the government of Iran that invaded the US embassy.it was done by a large group of zealots.however after the embassy was invaded some important documents and plans were found that were indicating that USA is in preparation for making chaos and unrest in Khuzestan province of Iran.hence Imam Khomeini supported and approved the act of angry protesters.so your diplomats were not innocents after all.

Anyway..........

As you see this is more like a tit for tat stuff.it needs to stop for betterment of both nations.both Iran and USA can move forward and normalize the relationship.your government should apologize to Iranian people on behalf of previous govenrments for what they did to us and vice versa.
 
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