‘New chapter’ in China’s ties with India, says CPC

[Chinese-Dragon]

Not only are they different languages, but belong to different language families. Hindi evolved from the Indo-Aryan languages, chiefly from prakrit (the vernacular of Sanskrit).

Tamil belongs to the Dravidian language family, and evolved completely independently. Unless I am mistaken, it is the oldest language still spoken widely on the subcontinent. It is thousands of years older than hindi, if you consider pazham-tamil (old tamil) into account.

They belong to different superclasses altogether.

Thanks for the information. But I thought that all Indian languages were related to Sanskrit?

Hmm...Must be some kind of event going on.

BTW, i want to visit Tibet and Yunnan someday.

They are nice, also try Guilin and Zhangjiajie if you like natural scenery.

 

[Yogi]

Apparently there is a LOT of difference. The spoken form is different, and the written form is different too.

They are not dialects, but more like separate languages.

Yes, thats true Indian languages r not like Chinese, where scripts remains the same n dialacts differs.

Here every language has its different script n pronunciation but in general North Indian languages r similar n i think the same is also true for South Indian languages.

Thats why most Indians r multi lingual n can easily speak 2-5 languages in general...

 

[Lyrical Mockery]

Thanks for the information. But I thought that all Indian languages were related to Sanskrit?



They are nice, also try Guilin and Zhangjiajie if you like natural scenery.

As far is script is concerned. I feel that south indian scripts are similar to south east asian scripts. while the north indian script is similar to the assamese and tibetan script.

and, yes i do like natural sceneries. I want to see tropical China
Hope someday, i would be allowed to travel to China

 

[janon]

Thanks for the information. But I thought that all Indian languages were related to Sanskrit?

Not at all. There are two major language families, the ones descended from the proto-Indo-European, and the ones descended from proto-Dravidian. The north Indian languages belong to the former, and are all descended from Vedic Sanskrit or classical Sanskrit or prakrit. Of the four major south Indian languages, tamil descended purely from Dravidian, and the other three formed as a result of the mixing of tamil and the north Indian (sanskirt based) languages. Malayalam, spoken in the state next to tamil nadu, has almost exactly half the words derived from very old tamil, and half from Sanskrit.

If you go further back in time, the north Indian languages share similarities with the roots of today's European and Persian languages, since they all belong to the same ancient family. The Dravidian languages bear striking similarities to the languages spoken by the original inhabitants of Australia and other islands down south, which is another ancient connection.

All this is a result of prehistoric migration patterns of human beings.

To make things short, the north Indian languages bear rough similarities to each other, the south Indian languages bear some similarities to each other (though not much). Tamil is the only pure descendent of the Dravidian language of ancient south India, and so tamil is the most different language from the north Indian languages. Tamil and hindi are about as similar to each other as Chinese and English.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Not at all. There are two major language families, the ones descended from the proto-Indo-European, and the ones descended from proto-Dravidian. The north Indian languages belong to the former, and are all descended from Vedic Sanskrit or classical Sanskrit or prakrit. Of the four major south Indian languages, tamil descended purely from Dravidian, and the other three formed as a result of the mixing of tamil and the north Indian (sanskirt based) languages. Malayalam, spoken in the state next to tamil nadu, has almost exactly half the words derived from very old tamil, and half from Sanskrit.

If you go further back in time, the north Indian languages share similarities with the roots of today's European and Persian languages, since they all belong to the same ancient family. The Dravidian languages bear striking similarities to the languages spoken by the original inhabitants of Australia and other islands down south, which is another ancient connection.

All this is a result of prehistoric migration patterns of human beings.

To make things short, the north Indian languages bear rough similarities to each other, the south Indian languages bear some similarities to each other (though not much). Tamil is the only pure descendent of the Dravidian language of ancient south India, and so tamil is the most different language from the north Indian languages. Tamil and hindi are about as similar to each other as Chinese and English.

Awesome post, it was highly informative.

 

[Yogi]

Thanks for the information. But I thought that all Indian languages were related to Sanskrit?

Yes, but its mostly North Indian languages that were derived from Sanskrit, to be precise Prakrit.

Sanskrit--->Prakrit--->North Indian

But South Indians also have pretty good knowledge of Sanskrit as our religious text r written in Sanskrit n ur required to use correct pronunciation of Sanskrit if u want to invoke the true power of sacred Mantras...

 

[HongWu]

Indians deluding themselves silly over a meaningless remark

 

[trinity]

Yea right only after India started courting alliances and went out of the norm. Like I stated before.... hope for the best, prepare for the worst so we are always prepared for anything. Never ever take our security for granted in an ever changing world. China talks a lot but I have seen very little action. Let;s hope the new leadership is serious. Time will tell. But at the same time, keep our guard up and our intentions clear. We want peace but we wont bend over backwards to get fuked. I just hope this isn;t a ploy to make India fall asleep while CHina has a hidden agenda and plans

 

[OrionHunter]

I think it's high time we build a solid relationship - strategic as well as economic. The latter is progressing well with $70 billion presently and slated to reach $100 billion by 2015. The trade gap is narrowing too.

The strategic relationship needs to be given a boost and it is here that both countries need to shed their animosity and suspicions and work together to to form a solid framework to keep the interests of not only both countries in mind but also the interests of the Asian sub continent.

It is because of the vested interests of Western nations that they want to keep the pot boiling. A detente between the two emerging powers spells bad news for the hegemonistic tendencies of the US of A and their allies. Their ultimate aim is to establish a New World Order with the US calling the shots, but a powerful Sino-Indian counterweight will put paid to their grandiose plans. This should never be allowed to happen and the only way to prevent it is a strong Sino-Indian strategic alliance.

 

[HongWu]

I think it's high time we build a solid relationship - strategic as well as economic. The latter is progressing well with $70 billion presently and slated to reach $100 billion by 2015. The trade gap is narrowing too.

The strategic relationship needs to be given a boost and it is here that both countries need to shed their animosity and suspicions and work together to to form a solid framework to keep the interests of not only both countries in mind but also the interests of the Asian sub continent.

It is because of the vested interests of Western nations that they want to keep the pot boiling. A detente between the two emerging powers spells bad news for the hegemonistic tendencies of the US of A and their allies. Their ultimate aim is to establish a New World Order with the US calling the shots, but a powerful Sino-Indian counterweight will put paid to their grandiose plans. This should never be allowed to happen and the only way to prevent it is a strong Sino-Indian strategic alliance.

No your country is evil to the bone and so many groups in India need liberation. It is China's duty to help them and your neighbors who all hate you.

Compared to China you are nothing more than a brittle regional power.

 

[trinity]

I think it's high time we build a solid relationship - strategic as well as economic. The latter is progressing well with $70 billion presently and slated to reach $100 billion by 2015. The trade gap is narrowing too.

The strategic relationship needs to be given a boost and it is here that both countries need to shed their animosity and suspicions and work together to to form a solid framework to keep the interests of not only both countries in mind but also the interests of the Asian sub continent.

It is because of the vested interests of Western nations that they want to keep the pot boiling. A detente between the two emerging powers spells bad news for the hegemonistic tendencies of the US of A and their allies. Their ultimate aim is to establish a New World Order with the US calling the shots, but a powerful Sino-Indian counterweight will put paid to their grandiose plans. This should never be allowed to happen and the only way to prevent it is a strong Sino-Indian strategic alliance.

You are so full of ****. The US did not come to India and force an alliance. There was a convergence of interests. What you state about India and China building a strategic relationship sounds great on paper but has yet to be seen. China has been acting like a bully the entire time while India has been bending over backwards to please them. China till recently has been playing games all around us. Wake the fuk up. Typical flimy attitude...China throws a bone and you jump. Wait man, let the situation build. Let action speak louder than words. Have you not learned anything yet? They have been working overtime to ovethrow regimes favorable to us in our own backyard. They have been behind the scenes trying to hinder us every step fo the way during the NSG process. Don;t ever forget. Wait and watch is the key imperative. How many times have we heard them talk? I have been hearing crap since the early 80's. Situation is a bit different now coz they face immense pressure building from multiple sides. So, its in their best interest to pacify one neighbor while they focus on othes pressing issues. We have many options now. What do you think will happen once they resolve issues with their other neighbors like Japan?

 

[OrionHunter]

You are so full of ****. Wake the fuk up.

Mind your language. Makes you look silly.

 

[Norboo]

There are some birdbrains here like Hong Wu and Trinity who seem to be always talking through their a$$es. Thank God there are few such idiots around in the CPC and the Indian establishment who do want to improve relations. These so called 'experts' can't see beyond their little noses.

Such trolls are flooding the market due to the utter lack of education. So how does one expect such douche-bags to understand the intricacies of geopolitics and geo-strategy?

That said, the need of the hour is to have statesmen on both sides to carry the peace process forward.

 

[Koovie]

Much difference between Tamil and Hindi?

India and Pakistan relationship is deteriorating recently, really get CCP leader worried.

Yes: Tamil: Dravidian language

Hindi: Indo-Aryan language

There are some birdbrains here like Hong Wu and Trinity who seem to be always talking through their a$$es. Thank God there are few such idiots around in the CPC and the Indian establishment who do want to improve relations. These so called 'experts' can't see beyond their little noses.

Such trolls are flooding the market due to the utter lack of education. So how does one expect such douche-bags to understand the intricacies of geopolitics and geo-strategy?

That said, the need of the hour is to have statesmen on both sides to carry the peace process forward.

Dont worry, CPC and GOI dont want war.... only some Chinese and Indian members on PDF

 

[illusion8]

The US did not come to India and force an alliance. There was a convergence of interests. What you state about

I agree on that, India US relations took a decade of work to come to a certain stage.