New Anti army laws to be passed by NA

[That Guy]

Judiciary powerful? The judiciary that is unable to enforce its writ and cannot do anything to flagrant contempt of court in public? You gotta be kiddin' me!

A judiciary that can oust a sitting PM, and has the support of the opposition, is quite powerful.

While it is true that it has trouble enforcing certain orders, a lot of the time, it comes down to bureaucratic nonsense, that hinders them.

 

[CriticalThought]

A judiciary that can oust a sitting PM, and has the support of the opposition, is quite powerful.

While it is true that it has trouble enforcing certain orders, a lot of the time, it comes down to bureaucratic nonsense, that hinders them.

Let's see. The judiciary has been ridiculed in public. It can't charge the culprits with contempt of court. The supreme Court of the country has sent summons which are being trampled by the culprits. Opposition? PPP MQM ANP and Nawaz League are all in cahoots. They have agents within PTI as well. The system is being held hostage because in the fear that if they aren't charged with corruption, they could cry fowl. Meanwhile, they are consistently emptying the nation's Treasury. Billions of dollars of losns have been taken in the past few months, something unprecedented in the history of the nation.

 

[Cyberian]

I think at that point of time being Neutral was not an option for a big country like Pakistan ... At that time there were 2 powers and world was divided ...

By the way decision to go with USA was taken by Liaquat Ali Khan ...

On the matter f socio economic progress there is no one even close to Ayub ... However, consistent with all Generals they came in good shape but then ultimatley to increase the tenure unnecssarily they do blunders and Ayub's blunder was Bhutto and Yahya, Had he transferred powers to Fatima without rigging elections, it would have been a different story ...

Anyways, generals are not good for us but these politicians are even more evil ... We are being crushed between too evils ...

There were over 120 countries who were neutral during Cold War which were members of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) established in 1961.

And, Prime Minister Liaqual Ali Khan refused American help and alignment with anyone hence he was removed (by the military).

There was no social development under Ayub Khan, only protests and riots that lead to the breakup of Pakistan. He even accused Fatima Jinnah of being an Indian Agent. What a pathetic man.

Like I said earlier, the public animosity against him was so great he felt the need to write his autobiography 'Friends not Masters' to explain why Pakistan was better off being an American Poodle. You can buy it from Amazon and read his sob story if you like.

 

[CriticalThought]

There were over 120 countries who were neutral during Cold War which were members of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) established in 1961.

And, Prime Minister Liaqual Ali Khan refused American help and alignment with anyone hence he was removed (by the military).

There was no social development under Ayub Khan, only protests and riots that lead to the breakup of Pakistan. He even accused Fatima Jinnah of being an Indian Agent. What a pathetic man.

Like I said earlier, the public animosity against him was so great he felt the need to write his autobiography 'Friends not Masters' to explain why Pakistan was better off being an American Poodle. You can buy it from Amazon and read his sob story if you like.

Sir, Pakistani industry was at its zenith during his time. The idiots who revolted in his times for a price increase of 2 Rupees on sugar, should be exhumed out of their graves so they can protest the entire national Treasury being looted. This is our decay: we are extravagant in criticizing a good man to the point he resigns, and we are cowards when it comes to criticizing the corrupt mafia. Because the corrupt mafia is ruthless and ready to kill, and Ayub had love for his country and countrymen in his heart.

 

[Cyberian]

Sir, Pakistani industry was at its zenith during his time. The idiots who revolted in his times for a price increase of 2 Rupees on sugar, should be exhumed out of their graves so they can protest the entire national Treasury being looted. This is our decay: we are extravagant in criticizing a good man to the point he resigns, and we are cowards when it comes to criticizing the corrupt mafia. Because the corrupt mafia is ruthless and ready to kill, and Ayub had love for his country and countrymen in his heart.

His actions destroyed Pakistan... literally in two. He surrendered Shaksgam Valley to China.

Which part of that are you struggling to understand brother? Do you follow some sort of a military cult or something?

 

[CriticalThought]

His actions destroyed Pakistan... literally in two. He surrendered Shaksgam Valley to China.

Which part of that are you struggling to understand brother? Do you follow some sort of a military cult or something?

His actions? Or the actions of Bhutto and Yahya? Or the actions of 'West Pakistani elites' with no sense of religious affiliation with people they termed as 'Bengalis'? It is easy to lump blame on one figure to serve your purpose.

Regarding Shaksgam Valley, THANK GOD he did and solidified the iron brotherhood with China, at the same time making China a party in Kashmir. This is called visionary leadership. Sacrifice the battle to win the war.

It is you who are struggling to comprehend the calibre of his genius, and the sincerity of his actions.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

When they are working on this self imposed constraint that operation cleanup is not limited to time and pace, and let the traitors go off the hook in Dawnleak case, they are making this political mafia bold and fearless.

Time is paramount. More they drag this , more it will cause harm to the state. Its seems there is still some sort of love between establishment and the "takht-e-Lahore", while MQM was put to sword, rightly so, these traitors from Lahore are handled with care.

 

[airmarshal]

Military take over is required.

Oh please! Its military take overs that have destroyed this country and let this filth of Sharif, Zardari and Altaf clog the system.

What will military do? It will step in and break people from these corrupt parties to form a establishment political party. Just like Musharraf did. If Nawaz Sharif is to survive, he too will be praying for military takeover. Its military takeover that takes attention away from misdeeds of these thieves and give them space to re invent themselves.

Pakistan does not need military takeover. It needs needs ruthless accountability. Let this system run. No matter how bad, its this system that has exposed Sharif and his corrupt family.

Time is paramount. More they drag this , more it will cause harm to the state. Its seems there is still some sort of love between establishment and the "takht-e-Lahore", while MQM was put to sword, rightly so, these traitors from Lahore are handled with care.

I cant disagree! Look at it even now. Sharif had NAB cases against him. He did not have pre arrest bail. He went to London without even attending the NAB court. On his return he should have been arrested at the airport. There is still a lot of love for Sharif family in the establishment. Just look at how his daughter slanders the army and courts. No action even contemplated!

 

[CriticalThought]

Oh please! Its military take overs that have destroyed this country and let this filth of Sharif, Zardari and Altaf clog the system.

What will military do? It will step in and break people from these corrupt parties to form a establishment political party. Just like Musharraf did. If Nawaz Sharif is to survive, he too will be praying for military takeover. Its military takeover that takes attention away from misdeeds of these thieves and give them space to re invent themselves.

Pakistan does not need military takeover. It needs needs ruthless accountability. Let this system run. No matter how bad, its this system that has exposed Sharif and his corrupt family.



I cant disagree! Look at it even now. Sharif had NAB cases against him. He did not have pre arrest bail. He went to London without even attending the NAB court. On his return he should have been arrested at the airport. There is still a lot of love for Sharif family in the establishment. Just look at how his daughter slanders the army and courts. No action even contemplated!

Janab, the key question is, what happens in April when you have to ask IMF for 40 billion dollars of loan and they require us to scuttle the nuclear program. This is why time is running out. Here is the conundrum: if wealth from outside is to be brought back home, there needs to be a fair and free trial and Supreme Court needs to pass the judgement without any meddling. During this time, we are living through the indignity of having an indicted man as our Finance Minister. This is the fine line Army has to balance. What I want them to do is to grab this mafia by their throats, and force them to bring back everything. Then put them in jail and let the system run.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I cant disagree! Look at it even now. Sharif had NAB cases against him. He did not have pre arrest bail. He went to London without even attending the NAB court. On his return he should have been arrested at the airport. There is still a lot of love for Sharif family in the establishment. Just look at how his daughter slanders the army and courts. No action even contemplated!

My concern is that there are some rotten apples within the "establishment high ups" who might be going easy on Shareef clan due to ethnicity/ties issue.

There is a reason why they say that time is of the essence. So much time as already been lost in which Pakistan would have gained a lot, had it got a patriotic leadership at the helm.

 

[Cyberian]

His actions? Or the actions of Bhutto and Yahya? Or the actions of 'West Pakistani elites' with no sense of religious affiliation with people they termed as 'Bengalis'? It is easy to lump blame on one figure to serve your purpose.

Regarding Shaksgam Valley, THANK GOD he did and solidified the iron brotherhood with China, at the same time making China a party in Kashmir. This is called visionary leadership. Sacrifice the battle to win the war.

It is you who are struggling to comprehend the calibre of his genius, and the sincerity of his actions.

Brother, a military tyrant by the name of Ayub Khan was in power. Hello!!!

 

[SecularNationalist]

I do agree army should be controlled and should not given free hand.But the question is are the politicians and the parliament doing this is corruption free? No everyone is protecting their personal interests in the name of democracy.The whole system is broken.

 

[CriticalThought]

Brother, a military tyrant by the name of Ayub Khan was in power. Hello!!!

I only challenged you on his effect on industry. Pakistani industry was at its zenith during his times. That's all.

 

[Cyberian]

I only challenged you on his effect on industry. Pakistani industry was at its zenith during his times. That's all.

Brother, what did he actually do that made Pakistan boom and bust by 1971.

One of the things this power hungry tyrant can be blamed for is that he wasted all the high tech weaponry by 1965 on India which the US had provided for defence of Pakistan against the Soviet Union.

 

[Mitho1980]

How does American military system works. Does coas has same powers as our coas or some other way.
Beacause it has worked wonderfully for them.