Nawaz Shareef should go, today he lost his crediblity

[risingsinga]

You mean Asian crisis in 1997?

Yes indeed.

 

[Norwegian]

Yes indeed.

I believe the crisis wasn't caused by USA rather a hard landing after the bubble burst

 

[sady]

Corrupt politicians are 100% better than corrupt generals.

To what shining research do you owe these golden words. Corrupt is corrupt. Period.

 

[risingsinga]

I believe the crisis wasn't caused by USA rather a hard landing after the bubble burst

They created an artificial dearth of dollar which was then the only foreign exchange reserves currency and the world has now diversified a lot. Their first target was the weakest and most dependent on them, Thailand famous for their corruption. However the US hitman pulled the dollar from the market and Thailand was almost bankrupt and unable to pay loans and it was spreading to the whole region. Malaysia had hidden reserves of around 200 billion usd and they used that money to support the whole region. These reserves were not in the knowledge of those hitman.
Remember one thing my friend, if we are all working hard day and night and still the economy of the world is bad, that simply means that something fishy is going on and few people in this world are getting richer at the cost of the whole humanity and most of those robbers reside in one place.

 

[iPhone]

Legal is a word we throw around, including our PM way too much without realizing whats its meaning. To him, his business of tax evasion is also legal, not so much for most others. A person who's own kids have confirmed how much he can lie is asking others to come invest in Pakistan but himself wouldn't bother to do the same with that stolen wealth and hijack public TV (PTV) for a poor show of innocence while denying others the right to use it does need to be kicked off the throne, yes.

And this is not an opportunity but a loop hole in Pakistan's throne politics where laws are different for elected officials vs ordinary citizens that needs to be fixed.

you do realize the reason why they have assets outside of Pakistan in the first place is not once but twice their properties and other assets were ceased by the the then people in power. Once by Mr. Bhutto by a questionable act and second time by an illegal dictator himself.

How would YOU feel if the the gov't tomorrow ceased everything you owned and outlawed and banished you from the land? would you not try to build your nest on some other land? Would you be held accountable for any taxes to your former land?

The question of the Panama issue isnt of a legal nature but of a moral one. Should as the Prime Minister, Nawaz Shareef or his family member own properties abroad? and to that moral question the answer is above. However, I do feel that if Nawaz Shareef is serious about bringing foreign investment into Pakistan then before going to others he must start with his own family and convince them to move their investments back to Pakistan.

 

[VCheng]

That is where why people who know better should atleast try to make things better and change. Atleast let them know it can get better. Recall where was Karachi and Pakistan two three years back. Almost monthly political useless meets. Killer themselves were presiding over these meetings to stop killings! What rubbish! FATA was bleeding our forces. Bomb blasts a daily routine. What changed? A powerful man decided enough is enough, was it constitutional? No, was it a legal act to pressurise a sitting Gov? No. Laws were forcefully put in place, killers apprehended ,encountered, hanged and now you see change. The law of necessity is not at fault, the question is whose necessity?
Judiciary or Army or combined, till the day a common Pakistani becomes the true decider of a government's fate, should make life hell for Govs if they do not deliver on governance and accountability. Only then will politics stop being a profitable business and a serious affair. We need to make it as unappealing to the usual scumbags who treat politics as means to an end. This institutional friction and overlap is actually what will keep the process going on.
I will consider myself lucky if I can come back to Pakistan and perform my role. Hopefully oneday.

So what's stopping you from going back? What you have said above are the same tired old excuses to cover illegal usurpation of power by the military. Let us never forget that even if the military takes over, it fails miserably in a few years and has to give up power to the rightfully elected representatives of the people. NS is the elected PM, and he can and should be removed only by due process, not by trumped up so-called "necessity".

 

[Gufi]

So what's stopping you from going back? What you have said above are the same tired old excuses to cover illegal usurpation of power by the military. Let us never forget that even if the military takes over, it fails miserably in a few years and has to give up power to the rightfully elected representatives of the people. NS is the elected PM, and he can and should be removed only by due process, not by trumped up so-called "necessity".

The PM can not use the civil servants as shields and the police as his private force nor is Pakistan his fiefdom. What is important is that the army should not interfere, but also the police and civil system not work as a tool for the PM,

 

[VCheng]

The PM can not use the civil servants as shields and the police as his private force nor is Pakistan his fiefdom. What is important is that the army should not interfere, but also the police and civil system not work as a tool for the PM,

Then remove him by due process, not by illegal means, if he is guilty of what you think.

 

[Strigon]

you do realize the reason why they have assets outside of Pakistan in the first place is not once but twice their properties and other assets were ceased by the the then people in power. Once by Mr. Bhutto by a questionable act and second time by an illegal dictator himself.

How would YOU feel if the the gov't tomorrow ceased everything you owned and outlawed and banished you from the land? would you not try to build your nest on some other land? Would you be held accountable for any taxes to your former land?

The question of the Panama issue isnt of a legal nature but of a moral one. Should as the Prime Minister, Nawaz Shareef or his family member own properties abroad? and to that moral question the answer is above. However, I do feel that if Nawaz Shareef is serious about bringing foreign investment into Pakistan then before going to others he must start with his own family and convince them to move their investments back to Pakistan.

Yeah totally I would feel robbed because I dont have those hands that convert stuff to gold like how his kids do. Its just their brilliance that in their low teens they were able to invest and buy properties worth millions. That money is the question, where and how did they receive it. He denies having anything to do with those properties but his son admits its theirs. How do they keep getting rich whenever they are in power?

Since they are all doing everything legal, its probably why they are so reluctant to form an actual commission with reasonable ToRs. Their current version is like a prisoner telling the jailer to make the prison out of tooth picks so its easily breakable.

I feel he will do his best to squeeze every penny he can then run off to SA or some other heaven where he cant be touched.

 

[Norwegian]

The PM can not use the civil servants as shields and the police as his private force nor is Pakistan his fiefdom. What is important is that the army should not interfere, but also the police and civil system not work as a tool for the PM,

He is already using national treasury to spread lies about opposition. I expect worse.

 

[Gufi]

Then remove him by due process, not by illegal means, if he is guilty of what you think.

due process works when the system works, and to make the system work he needs to let it work... so yea, it depends on his actions what he brings upon himself
whether it is him answering to the courts how his son become a multimillionaire when he was 14 or whether he squashes it and the people come on the streets and martial law comes

 

[Norwegian]

Then remove him by due process, not by illegal means, if he is guilty of what you think.

Was he elected by due process?

due process works when the system works, and to make the system work he needs to let it work... so yea, it depends on his actions what he brings upon himself
whether it is him answering to the courts how his son become a multimillionaire when he was 14 or whether he squashes it and the people come on the streets and martial law comes

Martial law but why? PM must answer for his crimes or leave

So what's stopping you from going back? What you have said above are the same tired old excuses to cover illegal usurpation of power by the military. Let us never forget that even if the military takes over, it fails miserably in a few years and has to give up power to the rightfully elected representatives of the people. NS is the elected PM, and he can and should be removed only by due process, not by trumped up so-called "necessity".

How are products of clean chit NRO rightfully elected representatives?

 

[mingle]

The PM can not use the civil servants as shields and the police as his private force nor is Pakistan his fiefdom. What is important is that the army should not interfere, but also the police and civil system not work as a tool for the PM,

Dont u think NS has any moral obligation to tell the truth and accept his kids accept it .A democratic govt works with Moral power not power of gun he lost it plus he is digging hole further and further with running slander campian againest his political opponents not gonna work .

 

[Star Wars]

Please do kick nawaz , and then shoot yourself in the foot.. AM hoping to see how Zardari or Taliban Khan manages Pakistan

 

[mingle]

He is already using national treasury to spread lies about opposition. I expect worse.

This wont go long for sure it gonna sum up very quick reason is our Geo politics plus regional situation .Wait for another Gen r Mahmood Durrani to give a massge to our cornered PM to step aside .

Please do kick nawaz , and then shoot yourself in the foot.. AM hoping to see how Zardari or Taliban Khan manages Pakistan

IK is next PM Inshaalh .i can tell u he will be 100 time better than these crooks .

Then remove him by due process, not by illegal means, if he is guilty of what you think.

Shah G he is guilty his Bubblu already accept it on TV plus u heard anything from sharif family ?if they have any let me know .