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There's nothing wrong in taking pride from your history. But when an individual becomes obsessive over the accomplishments of his ancestors and feels the need to attack other Muslim rulers that were from a different ethnic background then clearly this is wrong. My ancestors ruled Persia for centuries but their arrogance blinded them when the Holy Prophet {PBUH) called them to Islam. Thus I take no pride in their accomplishments as they defied Allah's authority by believing in fire and calling themselves omnipotent. The only history I care about are Muslim rulers, those people who fought for the cause of Islam rather than fighting for greed and power.

The Ottoman Empire did many great things and there history belongs to us because we are Muslim's. The different Arab dynasties did have a big impact on this world and every Muslim should be proud. When the Muslim's ruled India for 1000 years with different Kings this history also belongs to you. I don't know why people on this forum feel the need to attack Muslim rulers based upon there ethnicity. Pakistani, Turkish and Iranian posters do the same mistake.

In my opinion every Muslim regime is trash. What have they achieved in the last 100 years? They have been dictated by the West and we can't even dislodge a tiny little country called Israel. What's the point of Pakistan becoming a nuclear power when we have to continuously ignore the Palestinian issue to placate Washington. Why don't you like Qatar? Give me an explanation other than the Saud family having an issue with them or them choosing a non-Arab over an Arab.

I can't change your opinion so if you want to believe in the power of Saudi Arabia then be my guest. But I do know on the day of judgement the question will be asked on why our rulers were derelict in there duty to protect the Muslim world. Saudi Arabia is the 13th largest US debt holder in the world and okay you were right maybe they haven't invested trillions of dollars but still you own nearly 1% of there economy...wouldn't it have been better if you invested that money in a Muslim country rather than a state which protects Israel?

Its true nobody can become a perfect Muslim, this can only be attributed to the various Prophets of Islam who were sinless. But we can still speak up against injustice. If someone is anti-Arab then you can defend yourself, but you don't have to attack Muslim rulers from that ethnic background otherwise your no different to them. I will reiterate it again. I don't know why brothers on this forum are attacking different Muslim rulers when they all belong to us.

Saudi land is sacred no power on earth can damage the soil in which the Holy Prophet {PBUH) use to walk on. Why don't you develop your own nuclear bombs? What's stopping you? America? Develop a strong military and lead the Muslim world. Do you think if America attacked Saudi Arabia the Muslim world would be silent? I don't want you to think I hate Arabs. I think Arab people are wonderful and they have great respect in Pakistan and this forum might not reflect that but that is the truth.

Unfortunately it will fall into deaf ears. The unity and dignity of the Ummah means very little to many Muslims and those Arab despots are the champions of this trend. They would rather be Arabs under the heels of people like trump and netanyahu.
 
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Unfortunately it will fall into deaf ears. The unity and dignity of the Ummah means very little to many Muslims and those Arab despots are the champions of this trend. They would rather be Arabs under the heels of people like trump and netanyahu.

Exactly! The Muslim world will continue to suffer unless we put aside our greed and focus on unity. We have a population of 1.6 billion Muslim's, we can become a huge trading bloc and a military power. When I hear progress occurring in Bangladesh this brings me great happiness because in Islam borders means nothing among Muslim brothers. We need to develop Islamic Banking which requires strong financial institutions across multiple Muslim countries.
 
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Exactly! The Muslim world will continue to suffer unless we put aside our greed and focus on unity. We have a population of 1.6 billion Muslim's, we can become a huge trading bloc and a military power. When I hear progress occurring in Bangladesh this brings me great happiness because in Islam borders means nothing among Muslim brothers. We need to develop Islamic Banking which requires strong financial institutions across multiple Muslim countries.

Tell that to Qatar just spent 12 billion on 36 F-15.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-deal-to-buy-f-15-jets-from-u-s-idUSKBN19531Y

They could have developed their own 5th gen fighter with that much money.
 
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No they couldn't... Even with 100Bil$ they couldn't... at least At today stage of Industrialization of Qatar...

They can hire Russia to develop a plane for them. With that much money they can. UAE spent 3 billion to develop F-16 E / F. Russia labor cost is only 15% of America labor cost.

https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-uaes-f-16-block-60-desert-falcon-fleet-04538/

https://www.google.ca/search?source...psy-ab..0.8.608...0i131k1j0i3k1.0.aixued0gM6w

https://www.google.ca/search?ei=_JJ....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.2.225....0.knoLUuAoWxk
 
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What's the problem? Ally helping ally ... stop this US bases or slave to Israel/US talk guys, it's in Muslim world interest to have good relations with the US and gain from their expertise. What is wrong, however, is how some regimes in the Muslim world get too comfortable with this relationship and see it as opportunity to stall development of their people. They are trying to sell the people false sense of pride/meaningless 'visions' while still repressing the people. Result is you don't notice the development on the ground.

You'd think when reading about all the visions presented to the people and seeing all these photos online, there is real sense of progress/development and freedom of thought on the ground, but there isn't. Especially you @Saif al-Arab , go visit any of our nations, and when you notice the average quality of life or average intellectual depth of people well into their 40's, you're gonna realize we are not developing at a desirable rate. Culture is not to blame, it's the regime's which are stuck in past and want to keep people ignorant. If the average person in Arab world was relatively educated, these regimes wouldn't last days. I can handle life in the Arab world, but I would be frustrated living in it having knowledge of these constraints enforced upon us by our regimes. Same with people in Iran, North Africa, Turkey, etc....

Honestly currently we are not ethical people, if we were we'd value education, justice, human rights, development, quality of life, etc.... However , we seem to value propaganda and corruption more than anything else. The leaders are fine with it and infuse these principles in our society because it makes them more powerful and they are directly to blame. They have no excuse, all of them need to disappear, they have put the people through insufferable misery(just quality of life in general). As an educated person you should not defend them, go try living among them for awhile. You have not much in common with them.
 
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The Arab world is eventually going to come to Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Qatar side. The question is what they will lose to US and Israel in the process before they wake up.
 
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Tell that to Qatar just spent 12 billion on 36 F-15.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-deal-to-buy-f-15-jets-from-u-s-idUSKBN19531Y

They could have developed their own 5th gen fighter with that much money.

I have actually criticized Qatar in the past. They spend billions of dollars in defence which seems pointless in my opinion due to the size of there country. They should instead due a joint venture but the Doha royal family isn't the sharpest tool in the box.
 
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The Arab world is eventually going to come to Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Qatar side. The question is what they will lose to US and Israel in the process before they wake up.

After Iran's mass murdering of Sunni arabs in Syria bro, that probably ain't going to happen.

As much some of the arab regimes are evil such as the one in KSA, Iran is the greater evil and the greater enemy of Muslims everywhere.
 
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After Iran's mass murdering of Sunni arabs in Syria bro, that probably ain't going to happen.

As much some of the arab regimes are evil such as the one in KSA, Iran is the greater evil and the greater enemy of Muslims everywhere.

Iran had no regular soldier in Syria. It was all Russia's doing. You don't criticize Russia because you worship the Whitey.
 
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After Iran's mass murdering of Sunni arabs in Syria bro, that probably ain't going to happen.

As much some of the arab regimes are evil such as the one in KSA, Iran is the greater evil and the greater enemy of Muslims everywhere.

Iran sponsored Shia death squads in Syria and Iraq. KSA sponsored Salafi death squads in Syria and Yemen. UAE is promoting secessionists in Yemen, Libya, and Somalia.

They are all wrong, brother, and they will be help to account for it. The important thing right now is to move beyond this and deal with the bigger issue: US and Israel.

Muslim countries of the ME are fighting among each other for scraps, when the real beast (Israel) is breathing down their backs.
 
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Exactly! The Muslim world will continue to suffer unless we put aside our greed and focus on unity. We have a population of 1.6 billion Muslim's, we can become a huge trading bloc and a military power. When I hear progress occurring in Bangladesh this brings me great happiness because in Islam borders means nothing among Muslim brothers. We need to develop Islamic Banking which requires strong financial institutions across multiple Muslim countries.

You have been fed propaganda about progress in BD. So far billions of dollars have simply vanished from the banks, millions of tons of coal have disappeared from the mine but some people are buying million dollar properties abroad. If you call that progress I've nothing to say.
 
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