NATO tankers set to fire in Pakistan after attack

[XtremeRide 3]

lolzz, is main bhi 10% bachat

 

[Tuahaa]

You mean frienemy-ness?

Yeah, that.

 

[Awesome]

No one is challenging the idea that "angry" people or "happy people are burning trucks -- what's being asked is how come trucks are still being refilled with JP8 destines for Afghanistan, if as the Pakistani govt contends, it has stopped these supplies -- isn't it curious that the govt says it won't allow supplies but continues to allow trucks to refill with jp8 -- no JP8, no nothing in Afghanistan

"Pakistani government contends"

Who believes them? Their bread and butter is dependent upon the US. A much better focused consequence of this aggression by Nato would be to focus the "anger" upon our own government and first remove them, then worry about the US.

 

[muse]

Now you seem to have hit upon the calculation we mentioned when we discussed "legacy" in the posts above.

 

[xenia]

Bad move.Burning will only ensure that US will play even more hardball and strike Pakistan even more.It may even affect the aid to Pakistan

we have already given them enough "freedom" via drones?
they kill FC personnel n we shouldnt retaliate?very nice sense of justice
wonder how would they react if pakistan kills US soldiers?
thank God..after all some respect of sovereignty of pakisatn still exists among political circles..

 

[sparklingway]

"Pakistani government contends"

Who believes them? Their bread and butter is dependent upon the US. A much better focused consequence of this aggression by Nato would be to focus the "anger" upon our own government and first remove them, then worry about the US.

Depends on how you look at it, perhaps some good would come from this, because Zardari is expected to side with the US by continuing on with the Nato supply route, by not giving any aggressive reaction back to the US, by further accepting their aid.

Zardari's departure and all those are hell bent on establishing Pakistan as a US colony would just fasten their way out of Pakistan.

The idea is not to pick a war with the US, the idea is as you said it, free ourselves from the clutches of America. I hope this repeated act of violence from America proves to be a catalyst that leads up to that eventuality.

I love how "you guys" - and by you guys I mean most urban professionals and self righteous upper middle class people - make distinctions between civil and military governance to fit your world views every now and then.

"Dispassionate objectivity is itself a passion, for the real and for the truth" - Abraham Maslow

 

[Tuahaa]

Well, normally, Army + Government + Justice + Taxation system = Ruling party.

But in Pakistan, you never know, when it comes to the army.

I used to support the Army going into politics but after discussing a lot in this forum, they should be kept completely separate until or unless the time comes when we're staring into the gap of collapse.

 

[mjnaushad]

Illogical, senseless, irrational chest thumping out of nothing but jingoistic nationalism. The attackers had fricking rocket launchers. They weren't locals doing some action-movie-hero-ghairat-jaag-gayi revenge. They were militants. And militants in Shikarpur should shock you as to how they reached there.

One word for all ghairat-brigade : Morons.

Yeah ....I know they reached Shikarpur and Karachi with rocket launchers.... So scary situation. But when they'll kill me i'll atleast know that i got killed by an ENEMY not by so called ally.

BTW what you expect, Yes we are some illogical MORONS, and Yes i am happy because when NATO kills my soldiers i want them to suffer as well. The Logical MORONS like you will even comeup with excuse even if they nuke us.

And i just concluded a moron mod can write anything because he cant get banned.....


to Begherat brigade.

 

[muse]

Tauhaa

they should be kept completely separate until or unless the time comes when we're staring into the gap of collapse

Now, has it occurred to you to ask WHY we keep staring into the "

gap of collapse

" -- Seriously, doesn't the fact that we continue to experience the threat of collapse so frequently make you think that we have a serious political problem?

If there is such a huge disagreement or such a huge divergence in the views of leadership, that we should keep our options limited to those we can all agree on.

In the present scenario, the PPP and Zardari are expected by the Americans to produce for them, this is the deal the so called "civilians" made with the US in return for the US destabilizing Pakistan and getting Musharraf out of office -- is this the kind of civilian leadership you think we should have? Recalkl it was OK for Z. A. bhutto to sacrifice the Eastern half of Pakistan, just so he could be king in the Western half - are these the kinds of ethics our civilian leaders should be allowed to exercise without restraint?

 

[Awesome]

I love how "you guys" - and by you guys I mean most urban professionals and self righteous upper middle class people - make distinctions between civil and military governance to fit your world views every now and then.

"Dispassionate objectivity is itself a passion, for the real and for the truth" - Abraham Maslow

Well normally, at least I do - given the ground realities in Pakistan, but I was talking about all responsible authorities this time around and Zardari being the elected representative is more responsible than the military who should be taking orders from him. The decision to respond to Nato's violent aggression can only be taken by the civilian government, which should only be influenced by the public opinion.

 

[Tuahaa]

Out of pure honesty, I believe that civilian government wasn't ready when Mush handed it over.

I honestly think he can 'make it happen' next elections, if the big US factor doesn't intervene. I'd believe that the army, while otherwise not a good choice for any country, has something very few other politicians have: patriotism.

...I really don't know...

 

[Jungibaaz]

that tends to happen when our soldiers are killed......

 

[Frank Martin]

There is an ongoing survey being asked on the media about how to react to Nato's violence against Pakistan, options are:

1) Protest
2) Counter-attack
3) Negotiate

Saw it on Geo/Dawn. Lets see what the result is going to be.

Nato has to be told in very aggressive and unfriendly terms that Pakistan cannot tolerate the continuous killing of anybody in Pakistan by their people. Even killing the most heinous criminal is the responsibility of Pakistani authorities not theirs.

Counter attack?They must be joking

 

[gubbi]

that tends to happen when our soldiers are killed......

Interesting observation. Inspite of numerous other drone attacks where militants are killed, such a response is rare. But immediately when NATO breached IB in hot pursuit, causing collateral damage, supposedly, to PA, NATO trucks are burned that too in an area where such incidents seldom happen.

IIRC, last time such an incident occurred (intrusion), it was followed by a major attack on NATO trucks. No?

Complicity?

 

[Tuahaa]

Counter attack?They must be joking

If that actually happens and we become Iran: V2, I wouldn't mind.