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NATO about to lose Turkey's alliance

just think about the problems for Turkey if Germany say ok u go, take ur people with you and throw out the 2million Turks living in Germany (there are million people waiting at the boarder as a possible replacement)...
Was ist den das fuer eine aussage?
What the hell are you talking about?
How can you kick out legal citizens of Germany,they all have a legal status in Germany,they cant be kicked out.
 
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Was ist den das fuer eine aussage?
What the hell are you talking about?
How can you kick out legal citizens of Germany,they all have a legal status in Germany,they cant be kicked out.

ask Erdogan he inprisson forgeigner for no reason hunt them with international warrent of arrest....
UK want to kick out EU citizen after Brexit

If Germany does something strang like other it is suddenly impossible?

BTW to do this is PRETTY simple and even with the current german constitution completely legal...
MOST Turks in Germany have only a time limited right to stay not a unlimited right... simple no more extension and they have to leave ...

in 2011 we had 1.6million turks in Germany
only 502.000 have a unlimited right to stay(Aufenthaltserlaubnis)...
today most (704.000) have the permanent recidence permit (Niederlassungserlaubnis), it is called permanent but has many options for Germany to end this permit for many simple reasons.
All other have a time limted right to stay...that are 1.1 million Germany could send back ...

Just a example..one reason to loose permanent recidence permit is a simple criminal act... just look at the agressive behaivor and fighting at the many turkish demonstrations (pro or anti Erdogan) without bending rights Germany could send every of them back to Turkey if they fight german police ignore police orders or fight each other...

One thing you forgot about Turks in Germany... it's they are German too... most of them have double nationality...
Therefore there is no" take back your turks" and even if TR/Eu problem came to a critical point..; Turkish citizens with no German nationality... and who happen to live there for decades..;will not be "send back" either...
Turkey will mostly not be out of NATO... But Turkey position in Europe could... Both parties( TR and EU) are not doing their best to keep them both " happy"... Both are pushed by their own radicals to "move"... Both prties could lose bigif each side decide to cut the link... with TR losing a little more... the East sideof EU..;will see more conflict..rivalery and movement of pop... Not a good thing for EU either...

Anyway...

The minority have dual citzienship ...and since Erdogan is in power and fire up Turkish ego many dropped their german citzienship ... we have 1.6million turks with turkish citizenship and no german ...and only 500.000 have permanent right to stay...
 
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ask Erdogan he inprisson forgeigner for no reason hunt them with international warrent of arrest....
UK want to kick out EU citizen after Brexit

If Germany does something strang like other it is suddenly impossible?

BTW to do this is PRETTY simple and even with the current german constitution completely legal...
MOST Turks in Germany have only a time limited right to stay not a unlimited right... simple no more extension and they have to leave ...

in 2011 we had 1.6million turks in Germany
only 502.000 have a unlimited right to stay(Aufenthaltserlaubnis)...
today most (704.000) have the permanent recidence permit (Niederlassungserlaubnis), it is called permanent but has many options for Germany to end this permit for many simple reasons.
All other have a time limted right to stay...that are 1.1 million Germany could send back ...

Just a example..one reason to loose permanent recidence permit is a simple criminal act... just look at the agressive behaivor and fighting at the many turkish demonstrations (pro or anti Erdogan) without bending rights Germany could send every of them back to Turkey if they fight german police ignore police orders or fight each other...
They will not be send back... since most have a family tie ( father/mother/wife /husband) that will keep them in Germany...

As for UK..; they don't want to send back UE citizens..;quite the opposite..; that's why there is negociations btw the two sides...

So forget about this Turkish sending back fantasy... You can use it on new immigrants... but not for the Turks ones... (Except new turkish immigrants, that's another thing)

The minority have dual citzienship ...and since Erdogan is in power and fire up Turkish ego many dropped their german citzienship ... we have 1.6million turks with turkish citizenship and no german ...and only 500.000 have permanent right to stay...
Nope... Immigration law does not work like that...

it's the same fantasy as in France with some ignorant... who think the country can send back legal arab immigrants that were there for decades... (95% of them has families...with French citizenships... even thu' their parents do not have it...)
 
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Joker trumpy administration has destroyed relations with all American important allies, Pakistan, Phillipines and now Turkeye.
 
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Joker trumpy administration has destroyed relations with all American important allies, Pakistan, Phillipines and now Turkeye.
Pakistan hasn't been an important ally of US since the 1990s. We are merely a vassal state now more or less.
 
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
No but seriously,if you`re going to make utterly outrageous jokes like that you really DO have to put either a ":rofl:" or a ":laugh:" or ":omghaha:" or ":lol:", after your post,in fact anyone of these will do or better yet all of them.The problem with not doing that after an outrageous joke like yours is that theres virtually guaranteed to be some really idiotic fu#khead,usually a zionist or a wahabist,who will actually take you seriously,and you wouldnt want that now would you?

Things are already starting.
6 days ago

http://virtualjerusalem.com/tags.php?Itemid=27222

Israel, NATO Sign Agreement to Share Classified Information

in which alien dimension ..;your statement is relataed to Turkey place in NATO?

Remember that Russian Orthodox and Chinese Atheist allignment.

Joker trumpy administration has destroyed relations with all American important allies, Pakistan, Phillipines and now Turkeye.

I think Obama had just as many problems with them.
 
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His dream is to control the United Federation of planets.

In all seriousness though.. don't see turkey leaving NATO anytime soon.

But then again what do I know :P
Me neither but let the experts in PDF discuss the issue. :agree:
 
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Was ist den das fuer eine aussage?
What the hell are you talking about?
How can you kick out legal citizens of Germany,they all have a legal status in Germany,they cant be kicked out.
That guy is your best friend Hurşit btw.
 
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Folks are talking in a way, as if NATO is an independent force. NATO is expansion of US-military and other members are just pawns to destroy the neighboring countries of members (US pawns) and then implementation of putting USA's puppets in neighboring countries and finally joining NATO cancer. The same is going on in Ukraine and Georgia, two nations that are currently suffering from NATO-expansion.

I just wonder why should Turkey stay in the team of US-pawns, most of them especially their main ideology follows anti-Islam strategies and more importantly they tore up the former strong Turkish empire. It's stupidity to bring your enemy in your home who is claiming of friendship with you and at the same time hates your Muslim folks to the core.

@BHarwana
Not to mention that there is a radar in NATO's base within Turkish soil which is tracking Iranian missile tests and acts like an early warning system for Israelis. Turkey leaves NATO, Israel will get screwed undoubtedly
 
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