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[Dillinger]

You are retarded KSA is not an Islamic state either, there is no Muslim country today that is an Islamic state. Its all smoke and mirrors.

@Yzd Khalifa Blasphemy!!!!!

Sorry but KSA employs Sharia in its letter and spirit UNLIKE Pakistan.

 

[KingMamba]

Stipulations = Principals !

I'm not a big believer in the Hadith !



That doesn't change the fact that Socialism is the transition stage to Communism !

Even Non-Marxist Socialist believe that !



Interest Rate, a redefinition of Money as a commodity with intrinsic value & a lot more on Corporate Governance & Corporate Social Responsibility !

Stipulation is something you have to do in order to achieve something, principals can vary person to person and one does not even need to abide by his own principal. (makes them a hypocrite but alas) I was not even talking about Hadith I am talking about historical narrative of how Prophet Muhammad PBUH ran the matters of the state, how the 4 righteous Caliphs are known to have run the state historically etc.

So then your socialist reign will be a precursor to Communist Pakistan? Also what is taking the Nordic states so long to turn into a full fledged commie enforcer?

Sounds good but how does it make it any more or less Islamic per say? Like if you had to explain to a crowd why your interest rate is Islamic, why your definition of money is Islamic, what makes corporate governance Islamic, social responsibility etc. Basically expand on how when you are done adjusting the parameters will your system be "Islamic Socialism".

@Yzd Khalifa Blasphemy!!!!!

Sorry but KSA employs Sharia in its letter and spirit UNLIKE Pakistan.

There is no such thing as Kingship in Sharia, Islam believes in leadership based on merit not bloodline and if bloodline was the case then the Shias are right as which bloodline has a greater right to rule than the line of the Prophet himself?

 

[Hyperion]

Dill chahta hai tumm dono ka sarr pharr doon.......

@Armstrong

Stipulation is something you have to do in order to achieve something, principals can vary person to person and one does not even need to abide by his own principal. (makes them a hypocrite but alas) I was not even talking about Hadith I am talking about historical narrative of how Prophet Muhammad PBUH ran the matters of the state, how the 4 righteous Caliphs are known to have run the state historically etc.

So then your socialist reign will be a precursor to Communist Pakistan? Also what is taking the Nordic states so long to turn into a full fledged commie enforcer?

Sounds good but how does it make it any more or less Islamic per say? Like if you had to explain to a crowd why your interest rate is Islamic, why your definition of money is Islamic, what makes corporate governance Islamic, social responsibility etc. Basically expand on how when you are done adjusting the parameters will your system be "Islamic Socialism".



There is no such thing as Kingship in Sharia, Islam believes in leadership based on merit not bloodline and if bloodline was the case then the Shias are right as which bloodline has a greater right to rule than the line of the Prophet himself?

 

[Dillinger]

Stipulation is something you have to do in order to achieve something, principals can vary person to person and one does not even need to abide by his own principal. (makes them a hypocrite but alas) I was not even talking about Hadith I am talking about historical narrative of how Prophet Muhammad PBUH ran the matters of the state, how the 4 righteous Caliphs are known to have run the state historically etc.

So then your socialist reign will be a precursor to Communist Pakistan? Also what is taking the Nordic states so long to turn into a full fledged commie enforcer?

Sounds good but how does it make it any more or less Islamic per say? Like if you had to explain to a crowd why your interest rate is Islamic, why your definition of money is Islamic, what makes corporate governance Islamic, social responsibility etc. Basically expand on how when you are done adjusting the parameters will your system be "Islamic Socialism".



There is no such thing as Kingship in Sharia, Islam believes in leadership based on merit not bloodline and if bloodline was the case then the Shias are right as which bloodline has a greater right to rule than the line of the Prophet himself?

Sorry sir but I have it on good authority that KSA is the perfect Islamic state and that their application of Sharia laws is as it should be. You are a brainwashed zionist propagandist- what more can be expected from an American.


@Zarvan Stone him, somebody stone him all ready!!
@Hyperion this is all your fault, you kemalists are always trying to besmirch KSA- which is what every Islamic country should be like.

 

[KingMamba]

Sorry sir but I have it on good authority that KSA is the perfect Islamic state and that their application of Sharia laws in as it should be. You are a brainwashed zionist propagandist- what more can be expected from an American.


@Zarvan Stone him, somebody stone him all ready!!
@Hyperion this is all your fault, you kemalists are always trying to besmirch KSA- which is what every Islamic country should be like.

You just trolling.

 

[Dillinger]

You just trolling.

No sir, you are an American zionist propagandist.

 

[KingMamba]

No sir, you are an American zionist propagandist.

Don't call me a zionist you evil Indian baniya chanakiya in the face twig.

 

[Armstrong]

Stipulation is something you have to do in order to achieve something, principals can vary person to person and one does not even need to abide by his own principal. (makes them a hypocrite but alas) I was not even talking about Hadith I am talking about historical narrative of how Prophet Muhammad PBUH ran the matters of the state, how the 4 righteous Caliphs are known to have run the state historically etc.

Really & what are Principals - Something you have to do to feel good about yourself ?

Principals can't vary from person to person unless they are make-belief !

How the Prophet (PBUH) & the 4 Caliphs ran things are as we know, according to those same Principals - They are not, however, Systems in front of us because the dynamics of those times & now are quite different ! In fact some of the practices of the Caliphs was different from those of their predecessors & at times diagrammatically opposed to theirs.

So then your socialist reign will be a precursor to Communist Pakistan? Also what is taking the Nordic states so long to turn into a full fledged commie enforcer?

A Communist Pakistan would be a Class Less & State Less Society is a Utopia that perhaps isn't possibly & that is precisely why quite a few Socialists tend to be Socialists & not Communists especially the Non-Marxist ones like Social Democrats or Liberatarian Socialists.

A Class Less Society on the other hand is something that is envisioned by Islam in a qualified way - An ideal worth aspiring to !

Sounds good but how does it make it any more or less Islamic per say? Like if you had to explain to a crowd why your interest rate is Islamic, why your definition of money is Islamic, what makes corporate governance Islamic, social responsibility etc. Basically expand on how when you are done adjusting the parameters will your system be "Islamic Socialism".

There wouldn't be an Interest there would it ? And money would have its Promissory nature modified & more Corporate Governance & CSR means...well more Corporate Governance & CSR !

You don't have to reinvent the wheel for that - You've already got the Systems there....you just need to modify them !

As for the Nomenclature - there are about a few dozen different kinds of Socialism out there....why did they feel the need to name themselves as such ? Why not just call themselves 'Socialism' & be done with it because they, after all, belong to the same roots ?

 

[Dillinger]

Don't call me a zionist you evil Indian baniya chanakiya in the face twig.

Sorry sir, I maybe a baniya but you are a Zionist sympathizer. Otherwise you would have bombed the AIPAC HQ in DC- that is the den of the dajjal. No real Muslim can let those zionists who have captured Al-Aqsa and support and arm those who continue to occupy it live.
@Armstrong It is time for you and Mamba to enter al-jihad.

 

[KingMamba]

@Armstrong I will answer you tomorrow if I remember.

 

[Armstrong]

Oi @Hyperion meriii eik bhi Post pei Comment nahin kiyaaa ?

 

[Dillinger]

Oi @Hyperion meriii eik bhi Post pei Comment nahin kiyaaa ?

You are also a zionist sympathizer, you have spoken time and again against the ummah.

 

[KingMamba]

Sorry sir, I maybe a baniya but you are a Zionist sympathizer. Otherwise you would have bombed the AIPAC HQ in DC- that is the den of the dajjal. No real Muslim can let those zionists who have captured Al-Aqsa and support and arm those who continue to occupy it live.
@Armstrong It is time for you and Mamba to enter al-jihad.

I am waiting for the ghazwa to be completed, without the gazwa the dajjal cannot be defeated no matter what I do you silly lil baniya.

 

[Dillinger]

I am waiting for the ghazwa to be completed, without the gazwa the dajjal cannot be defeated no matter what I do you silly lil baniya.

That does not mean anything, it is your obligation to join al-jihad, excuses do not matter. The jews have occupied Muslim lands and that calls for al-jihad, AIPAC directly lobbies to arm these troops. It is your religious obligation to attack them.
@Zarvan please tell @Mamba how it is every true Muslim's duty to wage jihad against Israel and AIPAC- please provide him with verses from the Quran for the same.

 

[Dillinger]

@Hyperion @Armstrong @Mamba

This is your duty- Al-Ma'idah 5:33:- "Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,"

You must do your duty.