NAF versus FSA, which is more powerful?

[Superboy]

One is fighting just north of Turkey. The other is fighting just south of Turkey.

 

[hawk11]

NAF, because better equipment and training + EX spetsnaz GRU, etc

but it i think would equal out a little bit if they were fighting on FSA home turf in the sand

 

[That Guy]

You know, you keep putting these polls out, when you clearly know better.

Anyway, anyone with even the smallest hint of knowledge about geopolitics will tell you that the rebels in Ukraine are far stronger. When you have Russia backing you militarily, there is little reason to assume that you're going to lose against a rag tag group of misfits that don't have the proper backing from the west.

 

[Zarvan]

Equipment wise its New Russian Army and motivation its Free Syrian Army

 

[hawk11]

When you have Russia backing you militarily

you clearly know better. care to offer proof?

 

[AMDR]

you clearly know better. care to offer proof?

Have you seen the rate at which the separatists expend ordinance in videos? It's crazy. There is no way Russia is not supplying them. In fact the Russia army is already there, at least some units

MSTA-S column, debaltsevo

T-90 column geolocated
Russian T-90 Tanks of the 136th Motorized Rifle Brigade in Luhansk region - BurkoNews.infoBurkoNews.info

I could keep going

 

[j20dragon]

The NAF is good enough to give any middle-power state a fight of their life.

 

[northeast]

The NAF is good enough to give any middle-power state a fight of their life.

Nope，it's just Ukraine is too weak ，any middle-power state can defeat NAF in weeks if not days.

 

[Superboy]

but it i think would equal out a little bit if they were fighting on FSA home turf in the sand

FSA is mainly in southern Syria in the Daraa region.

The NAF is good enough to give any middle-power state a fight of their life.

True. NAF has 152 mm MSTA-B and MSTA-S. No other rebel army has artillery of such big caliber. Heck, FSA don't even have artillery over 100 mm caliber.

 

[hawk11]

Have you seen the rate at which the separatists expend ordinance in videos? It's crazy. There is no way Russia is not supplying them. In fact the Russia army is already there, at least some units

MSTA-S column, debaltsevo


T-90 column geolocated

I could keep going

... ive seen those videos infact i follow the information from all sides, msta-s were captured this summer, most in september from ukraine, there is clearly a video on youtube showing the rebels repairing them in a shop- these are the repaired ones.

t90's were captured from the depots during the early months of this whole "event" once again no proof

there is a couple of videos from Grahm Philips a british reporter in ukraine at the moment having in interview with the captain of recon, infact a russian army vet listen to what he says:

/watch?v=jftvWx38BIA

they are saying that even US citizens from newyork donate $ to them...


1. if u think that with the "support of the russian army" and the spetsnaz trainers it would take a rebel force a year to fight an army that ukraine has and not win - then you dont know anything

2. if Russia was supporting this lol- it would be over in a month or 2 max

3. if russia was at war- then 6 days or less according to one of the leading german generals

 

[northeast]

FSA is mainly in southern Syria in the Daraa region.




True. NAF has 152 mm MSTA-B and MSTA-S. Not many countries have artillery of such big caliber.

AFAIK，the NAF don't have any aircraft and at most have 20K army men，even if they are all russian soldiers（which is not possible）.Any middle power which have a decent military machine can beat them in weeks if not days。

 

[Superboy]

A large portion of NAF weapons are from Russia. For example, they have HE-FRAG RPG-7 rounds which only Russia had.

the NAF don't have any aircraft and at most have 20K army men

NAF has 1 Su-25 attack plane. Their number is said to be 36,000 as of the latest update.

 

[northeast]

A large portion of NAF weapons are from Russia. For example, they have HE-FRAG RPG-7 rounds which only Russia had.




NAF has 1 Su-25 attack plane. Their number is said to be 36,000 as of the latest update.

That's still very limited，There is no way Ukraine can be called of any kind of power.Any midlle power like middle sized western european country or some eastern european country like poland can easily defeat them.

 

[hawk11]

That's still very limited，There is no way Ukraine can be called of any kind of power.Any midlle power like middle sized western european country or some eastern european country like poland can easily defeat them.

i agree, but before the coup, ukr was much stronger then it is now

 

[Superboy]

That's still very limited，There is no way Ukraine can be called of any kind of power.Any midlle power like middle sized western european country or some eastern european country like poland can easily defeat them.

Ukraine is not a power? NATO never dared to fight the USSR for decades. Care to guess how many shells UAF lobbed since the ATO was launched?

motivation its Free Syrian Army

How so? IMO NAF is more motivated since they are fighting for their culture whereas FSA only fights because they are paid by the US.