NAB laid down condition for Nawaz Travel to the UK

[Xestan]

I think this is very much possible, if the deal and the establishment theory is correct.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1194825368286441474

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

That is an interesting point.

The court (AFAIK) did not specify anything regarding foreign travel. Is that because the court knew that a convict cannot be removed from the ECL, and that is self explanatory in the ECL rules? So they did not state the obvious? Or did they deliberately keep a loophole in the judgement? But now when the N-league goes to court, akar inhi ki jholi main masla giray ga. And both the PTI and N-league can come out with partial points for themselves.

Can the court also strike down PTI's decision to remove his name from the ECL? Since a convict cannot be removed from it. On the contrary, if a convict being removed from the ECL is a prerogative of the executive, then why not also the imposition of an indemnity bond?

Alot of questions.

As per my understanding of the notification or letter issued by interior ministry yesterday, the Govt. hasn't removed NS from ECL but given him a one time permission/waiver to avail. Who ever came up with this indeminity idea plus one time waiver is a genious lol.
I am guessing the "honarable" justice of IHC will try his best though, like again make some silly guarentee of life demands or else let NS go freely type, practically forcing govt. to do it but saying its you who is doing it. But it will be at the huge cost credibility damage which is already eroding. Govt. has salvaged its position. Now atleast in the mind of pti voters & in general public too, it will be seen as govt. putting some resistance but system letting NS go scotch free.

I think this is very much possible, if the deal and the establishment theory is correct.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1194825368286441474

What a c*****ya to call a party voters by that name. ANd then say, vote ko izzat do lol. Pakistani so called intellecchawals (more like paid stooges to do bidding of others) are real disgrace to this country.

The law regarding convict (involved in corruption)..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1194226770087686145

p.s: just to be clear, this isn't my twitter handle above, its a tweet that i have seen and am quoting here.

 

[Ali Tariq]

Pakistani so called intellecchawals (more like paid stooges to do bidding of others) are real disgrace to this country.

The guy, you're quoting, belongs to the same lot.

 

[Jango]

As per my understanding of the notification or letter issued by interior ministry yesterday, the Govt. hasn't removed NS from ECL but given him a one time permission/waiver to avail. Who ever came up with this indeminity idea plus one time waiver is a genious lol.
I am guessing the "honarable" justice of IHC will try his best though, like again make some silly guarentee of life demands or else let NS go freely type, practically forcing govt. to do it but saying its you who is doing it. But it will be at the huge cost credibility damage which is already eroding. Govt. has salvaged its position. Now atleast in the mind of pti voters & in general public too, it will be seen as govt. putting some resistance but system letting NS go scotch free.

See the tweet you have posted. It says prohibiting a person proceeding from Pakistan to a destination outside. Does not mention removal from ECL or one time travel or anything.

I think this is very much possible, if the deal and the establishment theory is correct.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1194825368286441474

And this guy is a journalist!

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Where does it say in ECL law that a convict can not leave.

Also legally the case has not been concluded. The appeal is pending in high court. Also when the high court granted bail the sentence has been set aside for 8 weeks.

Its says in the Exit Control Rules 2010. document.
The case proceeding has already been concluded , the appeal is a post proceeding thing.

 

[AZ1]

Lahore court again i am crying what shahbaz sharif is saying for nawaz sharif itna masoom aur imandaar leader daikha nahi aj tak.

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

See the tweet you have posted. It says prohibiting a person proceeding from Pakistan to a destination outside. Does not mention removal from ECL or one time travel or anything.



And this guy is a journalist!

That's the thing. I think law is vague in this regard, i am not law person so maybe someone with knowledge knows better. Govt. has probably used this same vagueness or loophole. It will be left to interpretation of courts. And that works for Govt. imo, they can argue that law is not clear, we interpretated it like this, now you define/interpret it and decide.

 

[Xestan]

And this guy is a journalist!

Ikr. The language is below the belt but it goes both ways. Sad affairs!

 

[Shane]

Where does it say in ECL law that a convict can not leave.

Dear, say AstaghfirUllah and watch the video I posted again before asking me to prove a clear fact... conveniently overlooked and trampled by Lahore High court in its verdict as well as supporting Khotas in media.

At least one other poster has posted the Ecl law, highlighted it even, that you may have missed earlier on this thread.

 

[VCheng]

You’re of course correct in principle, but I assure you, the attempted deal making by establishment and legitimacy of NS’ illness that I was alleging is not just mere speculation on my part.

As for IK crossing the establishment, he’d be mad to say anything openly. Within the space of a year he’d be easily dealt with too.

I would go as far to suggest that, given PMIK's stubbornness, it was probably better that he was kept in check by a coalition rather than an outright majority. As always, the carefully designed system and the decisions it delivers are a marvel, including what will happen in the present saga.

 

[Bil]

Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) chief Nawaz Sharif on Thursday rejected the government's conditions to allow him permission to fly abroad, sources told Geo News. According to Nawaz, government would later use it against him by turning it into an NRO.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/5...acceptable-govt-will-turn-this-into-nro-nawaz

 

[AZ1]

Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) chief Nawaz Sharif on Thursday rejected the government's conditions to allow him permission to fly abroad, sources told Geo News. According to Nawaz, government would later use it against him by turning it into an NRO.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/5...acceptable-govt-will-turn-this-into-nro-nawaz

Bhai and party scoring, nawaz is also looking for scoring but yeah plateleta kum hai.

 

[Bil]

I am getting more and more convinced that Nawaz is not ill and all this illness is nothing but "topi drama". What he said, doesnt make any sense whatsoever ("conditional permission not acceptable as govt will call it NRO").

There is absolutely no need for Nawaz to travel abroad for Idiopathic Thrombocytopenia. Pakistan has world-renowned doctors and pathology services to manage it adequately there.

Also, one wonder why the Ex PM was not able to build a single world-class hospital that could treat him if needed in his three tenures of premiership?

Any patient has a right to travel abroad for medical treatment at their own expense, but I sincerely believe this is not a concession offered to convicted criminals unless ordered by a court of law.

 

[Path-Finder]

Saeed Qazi shows Shahbaz Sharif's old statement where he claimed Punjab's hospitals are world's best hospitals

Best hospital's are here then why go to London?

 

[Bil]

@The Eagle @Jango @Dubious @PakSword @ps3linux @RIWWIR @Moonlight @Del @Mangus Ortus Novem @Zibago @Farah Sohail

To me, the real proponent of this proposal of surety bond or indemnity bond to be precise, who advised IK to adopt this approach to counter PMLN propaganda and expose their narrative, was Babar Awan.

So I looked for specific explanation from the very guy who proposed this line of approach towards Nawaz Sharif going abroad and the rest of the Government law team then worked out legal pros and cons etc.

While most law experts are saying that Government cannot impose indemnity bond condition, Babar Awan quotes the exact law that provides such condition its legal grounds.

If the following is the letter of the law and correct interpretation by Baber Awan then all the media persons and legal experts crying and shouting that this demand of indemnity from Nawaz Sharif is illegal, stand exposed yet again for siding with Nawaz and trying to make a fool out of people on Sharif's behalf - not that it would make any difference to the shameless khotapatwari lot.

Watch and decide.

Because of this very reason I take opinion of all those experts who bark on TV as a pinch of salt. Because they are master of twisting and turning the narrative whichever way they want, in this case, in Nawaz's favor so that he can gain tons of sympathy from general public.

The deal offered to Nawaz is a fair deal in my opinion, because he has only what 5 weeks left and than, "theoretically" he should go back behind the bars ( 8 weeks will be over ). Therefore, his resistance to this offer doesnt make any sense. And more to the point, his recent statement is absolute farce that "Conditional permission not acceptable as govt will call it NRO". If its not acceptable, then let him rot in adiala until his senses are restored.

Furthermore, to me, this a$$ wants a clean slate and he is not ill at all, this platelets story is utter bogus.