Muslims must learn to respect Hindu sentiments: Ashok Singhal

[Indrani]

Sati/jauhar was product of islamic invasions,where they would jump in flames in order to escape dishonor from the islamic invaders.Chittor was the example where all women jumped into pyre and the rajput men went into battle to kill and die.
Purdah system was introduced because of islamic kings, who would abduct women who were pretty.
And they say Hinduism in plagued by Sati?

Not just that, since even when they consumed poison and died, their dead bodies were being violated and raped, they started burning themselves alive to escape dishonor even in death.

sayyida maryam was sent to hazrat by the non-muslim non-christian governor of egypt who had no objection to slavery. for this governor, sayyida maryam was just a christian slave, but hazrat muhammad saw it differently. he liked ladies and respected their wishes, and sayyida maryam consented to live with him. from her was born his publicly accepted son. and when sayyida maryam died, it was hazrat umar who arranged her funeral.
bonded slavery?? where??
since you mention slavery, again i ask you, who was hazrat bilal??

Yup the governor sent the slave and Mohammed accepted the slave. That is no sign of slavery. Of course he liked ladies and he was respecting the wishes of the slaves when he was accepting them. Of course slaves give consent. How wonderful, she had a funeral too. How does it matter who was Hazrat Bilal. One slave being freed and other being accepted signifies just that some slaves got lucky.

 

[wolfschanzze]

Not just that, since even when they consumed poison and died, their dead bodies were being violated and raped, they started burning themselves alive to escape dishonor even in death.



Yup the governor sent the slave and Mohammed accepted the slave. That is no sign of slavery. Of course he liked ladies and he was respecting the wishes of the slaves when he was accepting them. Of course slaves give consent. she had a funeral too. How does it matter matter who was Hazrat Bilal. One slave being freed and other being accepted signifies just that some slaves got lucky.

All this bravado,That they will die for this etc...
is a bunch of crap what they do in reality is get courage from numbers, once the tables turn on them they will look like this.

Make no mistake, if you are ready to die, so are we ready to kill and die for such.
Don't fu*k with us!

 

[Indrani]

so has any idol spoken back to you?? in what language?? sanskrit, no doubt... because it is such a sophisticated language, it is the most suitable on for computer programming. so please do share your divine experiences.

You are too stupid for me to reply to this question.

in some cultures and things, the rich upper class dictate a different life style to the lower class. but themselves don't practice that life style. that is why they are the upper class. if they had the life style and practices of the lower classes, they would become the lower class. the upper class can keep the lower class brain-washed and not think about any previous revolutionary idea. such was the case in makkah where ideas of jesus were known but ignored. such is the case in india where ideas of bhagat singh, iqbal and the communist party were known once but are now forgotten.
it is the rich upper class that sustains the foolishness of the lower classes. the rich upper class can do this because most of the lower class doesn't revolt. take the indian "zamindaari" and "bonded laborer" system for example.
and in some cultures and things, the upper class practice the evil laws they create for the lower class. this was case of the bhramans and lower castes in india.
and in some cultures or times, a revolutionary comes along who is able to connect with other sensible people. and slowly, they begin to replace the previous corrupt and unjust system. this has been always. one such revolutionary was hazrat muhammad.

More mumbo jumbo which does nothing to establish that Mohammed was the first feminist.

i did say that they contributed to a touch of liberalism. don't allow your hatreds to bring blood to your eyes and making you blind and stunned.

Okay, since you cannot answer with logic and history, I must be a hateful person. All good.

yes, indeed. iran was the birth place of the moralistic hadees writer, bukhari. iran was the promoter of the shia-sunni conflict. iran was the promoter of the hashasheen, the taliban of 800 years ago. irani influenced people were whom brought down the muslim empire in europe ( al andalus ). iran was...

More babel and sectarian hatred which does not establish pre-Islamic Persia was oppressive of women.

and in india, to the wrong effect. weddings conducted by the salary-class and labor-class are meant to reach upper class weddings as much as possible. if the rich can spend two crores to 200 crores on a four day wedding, the labor class will try to spend ten lakhs and the salary class will try to spend from 20 lakhs to fifty lakhs, on a four day wedding.

Which just proves my argument that lower class emulates the upper class. So if Khadija and her triple marriages represented upper class values, it is far more likely that the lower class had the same values too.

veil?? can you explain how this "veil" is connected to islam?? can you tell me which societies in the present world have this "veil" system and who not?? who backs or created those societies??

As far as I know all Muslim societies have veil/burkha/hijab, etc., etc. North India has ghunghat, a cultural practice adopted due to Islamic influence. Who backs it? All Muslim clerics and societies do. Though I do believe the Jews did have a practice of covering their head, a practice which was adopted and taken to its extreme logical end by the Muslims.

so why does the iraqi and syrian baath movement believe that islam was the first socialist movement in history?? and why does the imaam of all muslims, muammar gaddafi ( see my profile picture ), say that the quran was the first socialist work??
don't tell me now that these people are not socialist.

Islam is socialist in its orientation. Hell, it is communist in its orientation. All Abrahamic religions are. I do not see what is modern about socialism?

how else??

It always surprises me how Muslims manage to live in India and have no understanding of India at all. Anyway you are not worth replying to.

 

[Indrani]

let's start with "laws of manu".... some memorable samples... ( The Status Of Women As Depicted By Manu In The Manusmriti | Nirmukta )
18. “Balye pitorvashay…….” – 5/151. Girls are supposed to be in the custody of their father when they are children, women
must be under the custody of their husband when married and under the custody of her son as widows. In no circumstances is she allowed to assert herself independently.
17. “Balya va………………….” – 5/150. A female child, young woman or old woman is not supposed to work independently even at her place of residence.
20. “Na ast strinam………..” – 5/158. Women have no divine right to perform any religious ritual, nor make vows or observe a fast. Her only duty is to obey and please her husband and she will for that reason alone be exalted in heaven.
33. “Na asti strinam………” – 9/18. While performing namkarm and jatkarm, Vedic mantras are not to be recited by women, because women are lacking in strength and knowledge of Vedic texts. Women are impure and represent falsehood.
21. “Kamam to………………” – 5/160. At her pleasure [after the death of her husband], let her emaciate her body by living only on pure flowers, roots of vegetables and fruits. She must not even mention the name of any other men after her husband has died.
40. “Yambrahmansto…….” – 9/177. In case a Brahman man marries Shudra woman, their son will be called ‘Parshav’ or ‘Shudra’ because his social existence is like a dead body.

Oh the great fallback, Manusmriti. At least quote it correctly from authentic sources. These are the verses on those paras you quote.

5/151 Him to whom her father may give her, or her brother with the father's permission, she shall obey as long as she lives and when he is dead she must not insult (his memory). Yes women were asked to be dutiful to their husband in all religions including Islam.

5/150 She must always be cheerful, clever in (the management of her) household affairs, careful in cleaning her utensils, and economical in expenditure.

5/158 Until death let her be patient (of hardships), self-controlled, and chaste, and strive (to fulfil) that most excellent duty which (is prescribed) for wives who have one husband only.

9/18 For women no (sacramental) rite (is performed) with sacred texts, thus the law is settled; women (who are) destitute of strength and destitute of (the knowledge of) vedic texts, (are as impure as) falsehood (itself), that is a fixed rule. Here one is talking of women who are unread and without knowledge.

5/160 A virtuous wife who after the death of her husband constantly remains chaste, reaches heaven, though she have no son, just like those chaste men. (Yup, promoting chastity, I do not see what is wrong with that)

9/177 He who, having lost his parents or being abandoned (by them) without (just) cause gives himself to a (man), is called a son self-given (Svayamdatta).

So where exactly is the oppression that you have cited. Promotion of virtue is not oppression. Also Manusmriti is Smriti, not divinely inspired. Even as per Manusmriti, all humans are born Shudra (uneducated and unlearnt) and it is by education that one becomes a non-Shudra. Distortions and misquotations will only get you so far.

you really know how to make jokes... starting with quietness and then an explosive end with a class punchline.
beacon of justice...
and on the same website, don't miss the critique about "cow dung treatment of diseases".

Here are research papers on therapeutic properties of cow urine and dung.

http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jpbs/papers/Vol7-issue1/A0710108.pdf

Patent US6410059 - Pharmaceutical composition containing cow urine distillate and an antibiotic - Google Patents

Also let us also talk about what science is discovering of late even about human feces.

Fecal transplant pill knocks out recurrent C. diff infection -- ScienceDaily

So the laugh is on you ignoramus.

 

[Indrani]

yes. proud of discriminating people on basis of money, proud of doctors throwing four-year-old girls out of incubators because her parents didn't have the few thousand rupees the doctors demanded, proud of that girl dying, proud of mba students creating a winter-clothing line for dogs, proud of city governments allowing restaurants to have place for dogs when dogs have killed people..

More socialist bullshit. Money does not grow on trees. It costs money to purchase and run an incubator, the doctor cannot do it for charity. He has a family back home to feed. A society which cares for its animals is any day a gentler society than one where animals are indiscriminately killed. Yes I am very proud that I earn a living and do not desire to live on doles like you do.

 

[takeiteasy]

The mood of Sanghi posters are very well suiting the signs described:

Top 10 Signs You Are a Hindu Fanatic

10. You believe anyone who wears even so much as a saffron underwear is a human incarnation of ‘Jagat Brahman‘ (God) and address them as “baba”, “swami”, “shri shri” finding the servile pleasure of touching their feet ‘intoxicating’.
9. You defend militantly everything the saffron-clad swamis have to preach, no matter how illogical and ridiculous, and believe that he/she will solve all your problems only if you continue singing bhajans (devotional songs).
8. You eject out of your chair at the slightest noise of someone uttering the word ‘Hinduism’ accusing the person of ignorance and launching into a lengthy diatribe on why the fool needs to address Hinduism as ‘Sanatana Dharma’.
7. You think all Muslims are “terrorists” and call any person who does not support the ‘Hindutva’ cause as an anti-Hindu, anti-India, pseudo-secular communist.
6. You accuse Muslims of being intolerant and yet become endlessly peeved at the distorted displays of hindu symbols or the use of hindu deities in works of art or movies by non-hindus and take boundless pride in protesting against such distortions or threatening them with dire consequences.
5. You spend hundreds of idle hours trying to find the ‘real’ meaning of different hindu symbols and slokas and take immense pride whenever the western media mentions something remotely Hindu – convinced that it is an undeniable evidence supporting the ‘greatness’ of “Hindu civilization”
4. You accuse ‘goras’(whites, but typically means Christians) of being racist when they ridicule Hindus but find no problems cracking Chinese jokes, Sardar jokes or even supporting the caste system by deciding not to marry outside your caste.
3. You find fairy tales of other religions amusing and entertaining but consider the epic fairy tales of Ramayana and Mahabharata as ‘itihaas’ (history).
2. You have no idea what a ‘testable hypothesis’ is but proudly claim that the Vedas are scientific works, distorting slokas and quoting personal opinion of scientists to make your case.
1. You have never read the entire Bhagavad Gita or other hindu religious texts but feel you are competent enough to talk about them loudly just because you read a few Amar Chitra Katha comics when you were a kid.

 

[Indrani]

misery?? where??

Everywhere. Remember Polpot? Remember Stalin and Mao and how many people got killed in their commie regimes? Go and talk to Russians what they have to say about communism or the resident Romanian on PDF about how lovely communism is.

hinduism is just some minor off-shoot of irani zarthusti culture ( zoroastrianism ), or some community existing on the fringes of official irani culture. you talk as if sanskrit has no connection to farsi.
please stop your delusionary nonsense. what will you say next?? hindu priests and kings flying in anti-gravity machines ( vimaaanas ) at 500 kilometers per hour?? the actually fictional ramayana wars fought in reality with nuclear-bomb rockets ( suryaastra ) and anti-ballistic-missiles ( chandraastra ) ??

Yeah now I have to listen to sermons on Hinduism and its origins from a commie guy.

other than in the mahabharat story, which was written after the conquest by alexander the great and the subsequent introduction by greeks of some temporary liberal culture into india... where would i hear that word?? please. tell. tell.
india, beacon of justice...

Oops, now Mahabharat story was written after the conquest by Alexander. Also Sita wedding Rama in Ramayana which predates Mahabharat by thousands of years. Did I pray tell tell to you now?

 

[Contrarian]

All this bravado,That they will die for this etc...
is a bunch of crap what they do in reality is get courage from numbers, once the tables turn on them they will look like this.
View attachment 39141
Make no mistake, if you are ready to die, so are we ready to kill and die for such.
Don't fu*k with us!

You dissappoint me friend. I thought you better than this. This is not the way.

 

[JonAsad]

All this bravado,That they will die for this etc...
is a bunch of crap what they do in reality is get courage from numbers, once the tables turn on them they will look like this.
View attachment 39141
Make no mistake, if you are ready to die, so are we ready to kill and die for such.
Don't fu*k with us!

So much anger- you on Periods woman?-

 

[jamahir]

So if we kill pigs in front of muslims it will be my death wish? what about killing cows in front of hindus?

is that acceptable? because insulting hindus is ok, but insulting Muslim will invite a Death wish?
We are ready to die if you are ready to die!

i didn't come to pdf to talk about killing people, unless they are betrayers to islam ( like taliban ) or those like pramod mutalik ( of ram sena ). please do recall who started talking about placing pigs in front of muslim houses. i am not some blind killer.

LOL do you allow love marriages?

yes... love marriages, divorces, remarriages, proper inheritances.

"In my nation she would be shot to death" These were the exact words spoken by my arab friends from syria and tunisia when i was student in 2000.

those two friends of yours... you should have asked them their political affiliations. you would know why they said that.

in and after 2011, that syrian would have been with the nato-sponsored "free syrian army" and would be murdering soldiers of the syrian arab army and syrians citizens. that tunisian would have been a member of the nato/iran sponsored "muslim brothehood" and would be beating up lady protestors, and on the side, murdering libyan jamahiri fighters who had crossed into tunisia to live and wage war against the al-qaeda/taliban occupiers of libya.

please do contact them now, if you can.

you take a one off incident of stray dogs and make it look like we have it everyday?

even one innocent life taken, is not acceptable, especially in this terrible manner. and yes, those incidents happen quite regularly. search especially for those in bangalore. how can you justify people dying and being attacked so terribly?? i am scared of dogs and i hate them to the core.

and i did write above...

dogs kill people in a horrifying way. children have been dragged away and then bitten and torn to death. many such incidents have happened in india, especially in bangalore, especially after maneka gandhi became a minister in the 1998-2004 bjp government. the dog-attacks issue was raised in some state parliaments, but everyone is scared of the stupid dog lovers, local and international.​

Regarding your lingo of slave etc. You might have got the pink slip from IT and therefore the hate.
Earlier you hated ISRO,IT PEOPLE,INDIAN DOCTORS, what next?

please read my intro thread. was never in the info. tech. industry, and i never will be... and anyway, it is on the on the way to its graveyard.

but will you also say, i was removed from isro, therefore the hate??

only 300+ satis documented in whole history.

wow... wow... only 300+ sati murders?? and how old is this "old history"??

What torture for what witchcraft?

dalit ladies being tortured for witchcraft. don't deny it. there must some thread on pdf. and yes, when you have a inhuman culture which believes in superstitions like placing a vermilion laden pumpkin in doorways to "ward off evil" or place lemon-chilli combo in the intersection of three roads to "ward off evil"... accusing poor ladies of using witchcraft to kill some stupid boy ( never happens in case of girls ) who would have died of pneumonia... and then torturing the accused lady is many times the conclusion, sometimes to death.

Jauhar was a practice (cultural) adopted by the Rajputs during wartime to save the women from being raped.

that is the excuse used by parents who do "honor killing", or those parents who scream "hamaari izzat lut gayee" and pressurize ladies to commit suicide. and what would have happened?? she would have been holding some man's hands lovingly, and some neighbour would have seen that.

about saving ladies from being raped... what would say of modern india, where gangs of males threaten some lady because of he clothes or because she was standing on the roadside talking... and if that lady talks back to them... they will kidnap her and rape her... and torture her... burn her with ciigarette.. pour acid into her eyes... push iron rods into her private parts... do this for three days...

don't deny it. this happened in delhi one year before the december 2012 case of amaanat.

didn't your read my link to the geocities site where the inhumanity of the vedas is clearly shown??

the hindu concept of "honor" concerns mostly the female sexuality. for the males, "honor" is about loss of job, inability to pay debt, less marks in exams etc.

but see the below two comments to see the misogyny in hinduism... its hatred for the female.... the below comments are hindu justifications which are insane...

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Sati/jauhar was product of islamic invasions,where they would jump in flames in order to escape dishonor from the islamic invaders.Chittor was the example where all women jumped into pyre and the rajput men went into battle to kill and die.

Purdah system was introduced because of islamic kings, who would abduct women who were pretty.
And they say Hinduism in plagued by Sati?

Not just that, since even when they consumed poison and died, their dead bodies were being violated and raped, they started burning themselves alive to escape dishonor even in death.

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and here, indrani is ignoring the female-hating points from "laws of manu" that i presented before... and himself is posting more female-hating points from "laws of manu"... please notice below that manu considers the wife to be a house-bound slave until her husband lives, and after he dies... she cannot remarry and lead a happy life...

Oh the great fallback, Manusmriti. At least quote it correctly from authentic sources. These are the verses on those paras you quote.

5/151 Him to whom her father may give her, or her brother with the father's permission, she shall obey as long as she lives and when he is dead she must not insult (his memory).

5/150 She must always be cheerful, clever in (the management of her) household affairs, careful in cleaning her utensils, and economical in expenditure.

5/158 Until death let her be patient (of hardships), self-controlled, and chaste, and strive (to fulfil) that most excellent duty which (is prescribed) for wives who have one husband only.

9/18 For women no (sacramental) rite (is performed) with sacred texts, thus the law is settled; women (who are) destitute of strength and destitute of (the knowledge of) vedic texts, (are as impure as) falsehood (itself), that is a fixed rule.

5/160 A virtuous wife who after the death of her husband constantly remains chaste, reaches heaven, though she have no son, just like those chaste men.

So where exactly is the oppression that you have cited.

the oppression is throughout.

like i said above, manu ( and hinduism ) considers the wife to be a house-bound slave, who has been transferred from her father's ownership to her husband's ownership. she will remain a slave to him until he dies... and then she cannot remarry. and the vedas in fact advise her, very furiously, that she should ideally jump on her dead husband's burning funeral woods.... and die by getting burnt alive.

and that is other than the life-long oppression she must endure... because she is a lesser human.

Promotion of virtue is not oppression.

"promotion of virtue"... isn't that the same thing you accuse the taliban of?? see why i don't consider the taliban as muslim??

"promotion of virtue" is what pramod mutalik and ram sena did when they beat up those ladies in that mangalore disco in 2009.

"promotion of virtue" was behind the december 2012 amaanat rape case. and behind most rapes in india and behind every "honor killing" and behind every enforcement of dress codes on ladies in indian colleges.

who are you to promote virtue to some lady?? you promote humanity to yourself. or actuallym you promote yourself to humanity.

and it is by education that one becomes a non-Shudra.

and so getting "educated", you will forward the supremely humanitarian system of casteism, hatred for females, capitalism and total non-contribution to scientific progress.

and so getting "educated", name one machine that hindus ever built.

and before you speak anything about muslims, go through the "islami golden age", especially the machines of al jazari.

Distortions and misquotations will only get you so far.

didn't your read my link to the geocities site where the inhumanity of the vedas is clearly shown??

Here are research papers on therapeutic properties of cow urine and dung.

wasn't there a case of someone's brain swelling because of drinking cow cola??

if you go to so western country, say usa, would be so confidently advising them to drink cow cola and use cow dung for skin therapy??

please use common sense.

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@Web Master @Chak Bamu

i am taking a break from pdf because of mind-numbing and horrifying ideas of some indian members. they promote "honor killing", forced suicides, dogs killing people, capitalist injustice, distorted history etc.

i will be back in a few days.
salaams.

 

[Indrani]

wow... wow... only 300+ sati murders?? and how old is this "old history"??

Yup only 300+. If you have sources to contradict it, please provide.

dalit ladies being tortured for witchcraft. don't deny it. there must some thread on pdf. and yes, when you have a inhuman culture which believes in superstitions like placing a vermilion laden pumpkin in doorways to "ward off evil" or place lemon-chilli combo in the intersection of three roads to "ward off evil"... accusing poor ladies of using witchcraft to kill some stupid boy ( never happens in case of girls ) who would have died of pneumonia... and then torturing the accused lady is many times the conclusion, sometimes to death.

LOL. Oh why I am blinded by the brilliance that shines through your arguments.

that is the excuse used by parents who do "honor killing", or those parents who scream "hamaari izzat lut gayee" and pressurize ladies to commit suicide. and what would have happened?? she would have been holding some man's hands lovingly, and some neighbour would have seen that.
about saving ladies from being raped... what would say of modern india, where gangs of males threaten some lady because of he clothes or because she was standing on the roadside talking... and if that lady talks back to them... they will kidnap her and rape her... and torture her... burn her with ciigarette.. pour acid into her eyes... push iron rods into her private parts... do this for three days...
don't deny it. this happened in delhi one year before the december 2012 case of amaanat.
didn't your read my link to the geocities site where the inhumanity of the vedas is clearly shown??
the hindu concept of "honor" concerns mostly the female sexuality. for the males, "honor" is about loss of job, inability to pay debt, less marks in exams etc.
but see the below two comments to see the misogyny in hinduism... its hatred for the female.... the below comments are hindu justifications which are insane...

No parent pressurizes someone to commit suicide. I believe there are suicides all over the world, are all those suicides because of parental pressure? Yeah all crimes happens in India because of Vedas. As usual brilliant logic of commies.

That link you gave does not open. Also for every anti-Hindu site you produce, I can produce 1000 anti-muslim sites. Remember that.

and here, indrani is ignoring the female-hating points from "laws of manu" that i presented before... and himself is posting more female-hating points from "laws of manu"... please notice below that manu considers the wife to be a house-bound slave until her husband lives, and after he dies... she cannot remarry and lead a happy life...

Yeah Manu is considering women to be house-bound slaves. Advising women to be good wives is BAD. When you get married, tell your wife she can take as many lovers as she wants and does not need to be a "good" wife to you. Same advise you can dispense to your daughter and sister too.

Saying Truth is a virtue is oppressing liars now according to you. Advising to drive safely is oppression on those who want to drive rashly and flout rules. Oh my my.

the oppression is throughout.
like i said above, manu ( and hinduism ) considers the wife to be a house-bound slave, who has been transferred from her father's ownership to her husband's ownership. she will remain a slave to him until he dies... and then she cannot remarry. and the vedas in fact advise her, very furiously, that she should ideally jump on her dead husband's burning funeral woods.... and die by getting burnt alive.
and that is other than the life-long oppression she must endure... because she is a lesser human.

Taking father's permission is slavery of course. Perhaps you never heard of "giving away of the bride." In almost all cultures, fathers or brothers give away the brides. Now this is the foremost sign of slavery of women and her lesser status.

More lies just exposes your intellectual and moral bankruptcy moron.

"promotion of virtue"... isn't that the same thing you accuse the taliban of?? see why i don't consider the taliban as muslim??
"promotion of virtue" is what pramod mutalik and ram sena did when they beat up those ladies in that mangalore disco in 2009.
"promotion of virtue" was behind the december 2012 amaanat rape case. and behind most rapes in india and behind every "honor killing" and behind every enforcement of dress codes on ladies in indian colleges.
who are you to promote virtue to some lady?? you promote humanity to yourself. or actuallym you promote yourself to humanity.

Where in Manusmriti are punishments prescribed for women who do not obey? Saying be truthful and loyal is oppression? So promoting a positive becomes oppression? Where does it say women must be beaten and killed or denied enterprise? Where does it say women must be sex slaves and do sex jihad like the Talibans do?

Who am I to promote virtue to some lady? I have my freedom to say and advise what I please. I cannot impose. Manusmriti likewise was only advisory, not a hard and fast rule.

For a person who does not want to promote anything himself, you surely have been doing a lot of promotion of socialism/communism even advising people to destroy mosques.

and so getting "educated", you will forward the supremely humanitarian system of casteism, hatred for females, capitalism and total non-contribution to scientific progress.
and so getting "educated", name one machine that hindus ever built.
and before you speak anything about muslims, go through the "islami golden age", especially the machines of al jazari.

What casteism or hatred of females? We are promoting a merit based system where fruit of one's labor is not denied. Where fools and educated are not considered equal-equal. Ohh, now Islam was the greatest contributor to scientific progress.

You need one Hindu invention? Like the Bose system? Or the Intel Pentium Chip?

wasn't there a case of someone's brain swelling because of drinking cow cola??
if you go to so western country, say usa, would be so confidently advising them to drink cow cola and use cow dung for skin therapy??
please use common sense.

Moron. What do you think vaccines and hormonal creams use as their base product? All vaccines and hormonal creams use horse urine. Yup that is Western countries who lead in most modern medicines use horse urine and cow urine for their pharmaceutical products.

 

[he-man]

This stupid man need to be thrown out of this country along with owaisis,,,,fucking stupid people.

And he is an oncologist,,,dammit

someone needs to reign in this guy @jamahir
i **** ing hate religious nut jobs

 

[SarthakGanguly]

you are comparing holy duty to the duty that boss tells you to do ? you are nuts

but ya as stated in my other comment i did agree with your point. that beef is not mandatory and that out of respect for the hindus we should avoid it if we can .
but i guess in the end it somes down to my hunger for beef and your sentiment which should i chose ?

Well, let me give you a hint. I am a 'savage RSS Hindutvadi' fanatic, make no mistake about that. But...

...before I turned veg and betrayed Kashmiriyat (Pandits are voracious mutton eaters), I liked pepperoni. But I stopped having it for the one I care about (not me). I turned veg much later, out of my own conviction.

It's upto you how far you wish to sacrifice. That is also qurbani, isn't it?

 

[wolfschanzze]

You dissappoint me friend. I thought you better than this. This is not the way.

Why is it that everyone can get away with insulting hindus and we protesting against such is a bad thing.Sometimes you have to remind them not to take hindus for granted,secularism and freedom of speech exists because of hindus if it wasn't for hindus India would be another Monotheistic dictatorship.

So much anger- you on Periods woman?-

LoL is that the best you can do?

 

[Contrarian]

Why is it that everyone can get away with insulting hindus and we protesting against such is a bad thing.Sometimes you have to remind them not to take hindus for granted,secularism and freedom of speech exists because of hindus if it wasn't for hindus India would be another Monotheistic dictatorship.

I agree completely.
But there are better ways of responding and still conveying exactly what you want to.