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Muslims invented alcohol

Poor kitty! Does its digestive tract allow such stuff?! Why don't they get the monkey to do that work? Expensive feces of some kitty! Would be good business if someone bought my kitty's feces! :P

BTW, didn't the civet kitty hit the endangered species list? Ooo


Talk about eating crap! :P

Looks more like a rat, rather than cat! :angry:
 
The discovery of late Stone Age beer jugs has established the fact that purposely fermented beverages existed at least as early as c. 10,000 BCE.{Patrick, 1952, pp. 12-13}

Middle Eastern scientists used distillation extensively in their alchemical experiments, the most notable of whom were the Persian Jābir ibn Hayyān (Geber), the Arab Al-Kindi (Alkindus) and the other Persian scientist al-Razi (Rhazes).
 
Firstly ,my pak brothers who claim to be descendants of the IVC. Even a little knowledge of history will tell you that the civilisation was almost wiped out. Wiped out as in finish , over, and all its culture was lost. I don't know whose descendants you are , but it's definitely not the IVC. Now that's unless one of you came up with a brand new technology to revive dead people,someone like the same genius who invented the great "water kit" that can defeat all laws of physics known to mankind.

Also I find it incredibly hilarious when we Indians try to claim IVC and fight like dogs over it. Let us assume for once that the people of IVC survived and became present day Pakistanis and not indians. So what did they grow into - A dysfunctional state with a ruined economy , zero contribution to science and technology and a huge militancy and terrorism problem. A state that would take another 20 years just to blast a rocket into space . So , I guess the IVC wasn't that great after all- Their destiny was to grow up to be people who can be killed in an instant by drones made by much more technologically advanced and intelligent civilisations. - which just basically means that they were an inferior civilisation and we shouldn't fight to claim it as our own.
 
Wonder why Indians calling inventions their own, when most of their inventions actually were invented in Pakistan... Btw, even Indian land is not India, the real India is Sindh in Pakistan.

Since Even the word India is not yours, you ought to consult the people who coined it and used it.
 
I do not wish to read the thread.

My compliments to whoever invented it.. Good job done !

Scotch is said to be a great invention..

one double and you begin to feel single again .
 
Actually, Pakistan is the real India...we have pretty much all of the Indus. India should change it's name to Gangia or something, lol :rolleyes:

The Great Mauryan Empire which rule over India, pakistan and Afganistan had its capital pataliputra present day Patna, and the great Indian empires which established after wards have their capital cities in Gangetic plains. Present day Pakistan is a border area of Great Indian empires.
Most of the vedic literature and ancient discoveries were made in present day India.
 
But its located in Pakistan. If we were to go by the measurement of how much of the river flows in which country then by that definition india should be called Gangastan because the whole ganges river is in india and that to for more than a thousand kilometers.

The ruling elites of the present day Pakistan call them selves related to Arabs, as most of them here highlight their arab tribe ancestry proudly. The actual people of Sindh and Punjab are migrated to India and Baluchistan is a different area.

There is a striking resemblance between IVC and present Hindu culture, There are some recent discoveries in Tamilnadu which is are related to IVC. I say IVC traditions evolved into Hinduism.
 
The ruling elites of the present day Pakistan call them selves related to Arabs, as most of them here highlight their arab tribe ancestry proudly. The actual people of Sindh and Punjab are migrated to India and Baluchistan is a different area.

There is a striking resemblance between IVC and present Hindu culture, There are some recent discoveries in Tamilnadu which is are related to IVC. I say IVC traditions evolved into Hinduism.

I doubt this very strongly. When no written records exist, how do we conclude that there is a resemblance between the IVC and present Hindu culture? Particularly since present Hindu culture itself evolved from and moved away from Hindu culture of the past? Why is it so difficult to understand that IVC had no descent whatsoever and that claiming it amounts to claiming ticketing rights to its remains? There is no cultural link between either present-day Pakistanis or present-day Indians and the IVC, and there is no need to squabble over the achievements of those who have not left their legacy to either of the squabbling parties either.
 
Shut up there was no india before 1947 but empires such as Mughul Empire, Maratha Empire etc etc.

Not shut your trolling machine & don't burn if you have no history.

Most of the pakistanis identify them selves with Arab Tribes who migrated to Indian Subcontinent through invasions and follow the customs of Arabs.
do you even know anything about India?
According to your great Caliph general Zia your history started with a bloody invasion of Muohammed Bin Qasim and the migration of the Arab soldiers into the lands which are cultivated by Buddhists and Hindus.

India existed from the time of Ramayana and Mahabharata may there were some sad moments in its history during the invasions of Muslim world and resource greedy Western civilization, But our ancestors stood firm and preserved our culture and customs, Indian customs also evolved with time reinventing every time there is a glitch.

What about pakistan, First you identified with Mugals and Zia came and converted all of you to Arabs this trend is continuing, the latest is Wahhabi radical Islam.
 
I doubt this very strongly. When no written records exist, how do we conclude that there is a resemblance between the IVC and present Hindu culture? Particularly since present Hindu culture itself evolved from and moved away from Hindu culture of the past? Why is it so difficult to understand that IVC had no descent whatsoever and that claiming it amounts to claiming ticketing rights to its remains? There is no cultural link between either present-day Pakistanis or present-day Indians and the IVC, and there is no need to squabble over the achievements of those who have not left their legacy to either of the squabbling parties either.

There are stone inscriptions such as "god of Animals" "Pashupathi" who is worshiped during IVC i.e Lord Shiva. Below is the link where you can find the article

Religion in Indus Valley Civilization
 
The word India was used to refer to the Indus Valley..in modern Pakistan. And your own country came into existence in 1947. Almost all of your history takes root in Pakistan, including your religion Hinduism, and your holy language Sanskrit.

I'm pretty sure you did know all of that.


India existed from ancient times it is called "Bharat", Pakistan was created by converts and Arab soldiers.

Starting from Mehrgarh to IVC and then on, the Indus has been our ancestors most important river and best location to live near to. Even today, most of Pakistan's population is clustered around it.

Stuff like Hinduism were invented in Pakistan (IVC as it was called back then); but when Islam came the original practitioners of this religion switched to Islam and our eastern neighbours kept on with practising it.

Pakistan has nothing to do with Hinduism and sanskrit, Todays pakistan is a western out post of Great Indian empires.


Man i love it how these indians take our Pakistani culture and history and label it as their own just like how their bollywood makes cheap hindi copies of American films and labels them as "original" and indian.


And you people identify yourself as Arabs just like "Fox put scars on it just to look like Tiger"
 
@KS

It's your choice if you want to deny it. Even I have told Americans that the real India is in Pakistan. They were shocked and researched it.

I am not delusional to believe that Pakistan's history started with Qasim.

Yeah great work Done by your Caliph Zia to brain wash you. Fault id in your twisted facts fed to you by your academic test books :coffee:

hahahaha, no one recognise it as indian history, indian history revolves around ganga & brahmaputra, never ever i saw name of indus, gandhara, moenjodaro, taxila etc etc in indian history. When there is IVC there is name of Subcontinent used no such thing as indian, you can keep burning, maybe this is taught to you in your indian propaganda schools.

Do you know Mahabharata??
looks like we got some brainwashed pakistani guys who are thinking that history taught by the textbooks is true :eek:

Pakistan's Indo-Aryan Heritage/History (Indo as in Indus Valley Civilization and not india) Part II


Takht-i-Bahi (Ghandara city ruins)

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dharmarajika stupa (Taxila, Pakistan)

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Those peple migrated to India along the west coast buddy , The legacy and spirit lives in India.
 
List of Muslim scientists throughout the ages


Islamic science has played a significant role in the history of science. There have been hundreds of notable Muslim scientists that have made a great contribution to civilization and society. The following is an incomplete list of notable Muslim scientists.
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* 1 Astronomers and astrophysicists
* 2 Chemists and alchemists
* 3 Economists and social scientists
* 4 Geographers and earth scientists
* 5 Mathematicians
* 6 Biologists, neuroscientists, and psychologists
* 7 Physicians and surgeons
* 8 Physicists and engineers
* 9 Political scientists
* 10 Other scientists and inventors
* 11 References

Astronomers and astrophysicists

* Ibrahim al-Fazari
* Muhammad al-Fazari
* Al-Khwarizmi, mathematician
* Ja'far ibn Muhammad Abu Ma'shar al-Balkhi (Albumasar)
* Al-Farghani
* Banū Mūsā (Ben Mousa)
o Ja'far Muhammad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
o Ahmad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
o Al-Hasan ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
* Al-Majriti
* Muhammad ibn Jābir al-Harrānī al-Battānī (Albatenius)
* Al-Farabi (Abunaser)
* Abd Al-Rahman Al Sufi
* Abu Sa'id Gorgani
* Kushyar ibn Labban
* Abū Ja'far al-Khāzin
* Al-Mahani
* Al-Marwazi
* Al-Nayrizi
* Al-Saghani
* Al-Farghani
* Abu Nasr Mansur
* Abū Sahl al-Qūhī (Kuhi)
* Abu-Mahmud al-Khujandi
* Abū al-Wafā' al-Būzjānī
* Ibn Yunus
* Ibn al-Haytham (Alhacen)
* Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī
* Avicenna(Ibn Sīnā )
* Abū Ishāq Ibrāhīm al-Zarqālī (Arzachel)
* Omar Khayyám
* Al-Khazini
* Ibn Bajjah (Avempace)
* Ibn Tufail (Abubacer)
* Nur Ed-Din Al Betrugi (Alpetragius)
* Averroes
* Al-Jazari
* Sharaf al-Dīn al-Tūsī
* Anvari
* Mo'ayyeduddin Urdi
* Nasir al-Din Tusi
* Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi
* Ibn al-Shatir
* Shams al-Dīn al-Samarqandī
* Jamshīd al-Kāshī
* Ulugh Beg, also a mathematician
* Taqi al-Din Muhammad ibn Ma'ruf, Ottoman astronomer
* Ahmad Nahavandi
* Haly Abenragel
* Abolfadl Harawi

Chemists and alchemists

Further information: Alchemy (Islam)

* Khalid ibn Yazid (Calid)
* Jafar al-Sadiq
* Jābir ibn Hayyān (Geber), father of chemistry[1][2][3]
* Abbas Ibn Firnas (Armen Firman)
* Al-Kindi (Alkindus)
* Al-Majriti
* Ibn Miskawayh
* Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī
* Avicenna
* Al-Khazini
* Nasir al-Din Tusi
* Ibn Khaldun
* Salimuzzaman Siddiqui
* Al-Khwārizmī, Father of Algebra, (Mathematics)
* Ahmed H. Zewail, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 1999[4]
* Mostafa El-Sayed
* Atta ur Rahman, leading scholar in the field of Natural Product Chemistry

Economists and social scientists

Further information: Islamic sociology, Early Muslim sociology, and Islamic economics in the world
See also: List of Muslim historians and Historiography of early Islam

* Abu Hanifa an-Nu‘man (699-767), Islamic jurisprudence scholar
* Abu Yusuf (731-798), Islamic jurisprudence scholar
* Al-Saghani (d. 990), one of the earliest historians of science[5]
* Shams al-Mo'ali Abol-hasan Ghaboos ibn Wushmgir (Qabus) (d. 1012), economist
* Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī (973-1048), considered the "first anthropologist"[6] and father of Indology[7]
* Ibn Sina (Avicenna) (980–1037), economist
* Ibn Miskawayh (b. 1030), economist
* Al-Ghazali (Algazel) (1058–1111), economist
* Al-Mawardi (1075–1158), economist
* Nasīr al-Dīn al-Tūsī (Tusi) (1201–1274), economist
* Ibn al-Nafis (1213–1288), sociologist
* Ibn Taymiyyah (1263–1328), economist
* Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406), forerunner of social sciences[8] such as demography,[9] cultural history,[10] historiography,[11] philosophy of history,[12] sociology[9][12] and economics[13][14]
* Al-Maqrizi (1364–1442), economist
* Akhtar Hameed Khan, Pakistani social scientist; pioneer of microcredit
* Muhammad Yunus, Nobel Prize winner Bangladeshi economist; pioneer of microfinance
* Shah Abdul Hannan, Pioneer of Islamic Banking in South Asia
* Mahbub ul Haq, Pakistani economist; developer of Human Development Index and founder of Human Development Report[15][16]

Geographers and earth scientists

Further information: Muslim Agricultural Revolution

* Al-Masudi, the "Herodotus of the Arabs", and pioneer of historical geography[17]
* Al-Kindi, pioneer of environmental science[18]
* Ibn Al-Jazzar
* Al-Tamimi
* Al-Masihi
* Ali ibn Ridwan
* Muhammad al-Idrisi, also a cartographer
* Ahmad ibn Fadlan
* Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, father of geodesy,[6][9] considered the first geologist and "first anthropologist"[6]
* Avicenna
* Abd al-Latif al-Baghdadi
* Averroes
* Ibn al-Nafis
* Ibn Jubayr
* Ibn Battuta
* Ibn Khaldun
* Piri Reis
* Evliya Çelebi

Mathematicians

Further information: Islamic mathematics: Biographies

* Al-Hajjāj ibn Yūsuf ibn Matar
* Khalid ibn Yazid (Calid)
* Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī (Algorismi) - father of algebra[19] and algorithms[20]
* 'Abd al-Hamīd ibn Turk
* Abū al-Hasan ibn Alī al-Qalasādī (1412–1482), pioneer of symbolic algebra[21]
* Abū Kāmil Shujā ibn Aslam
* Al-Abbās ibn Said al-Jawharī
* Al-Kindi (Alkindus)
* Banū Mūsā (Ben Mousa)
o Ja'far Muhammad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
o Al-Hasan ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
* Al-Khwarizmi
* Al-Mahani
* Ahmed ibn Yusuf
* Al-Majriti
* Muhammad ibn Jābir al-Harrānī al-Battānī (Albatenius)
* Al-Farabi (Abunaser)
* Al-Khalili
* Al-Nayrizi
* Abū Ja'far al-Khāzin
* Brethren of Purity
* Abu'l-Hasan al-Uqlidisi
* Al-Saghani
* Abū Sahl al-Qūhī
* Abu-Mahmud al-Khujandi
* Abū al-Wafā' al-Būzjānī
* Ibn Sahl
* Al-Sijzi
* Ibn Yunus
* Abu Nasr Mansur
* Kushyar ibn Labban
* Al-Karaji
* Ibn al-Haytham (Alhacen/Alhazen)
* Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī
* Ibn Tahir al-Baghdadi
* Al-Nasawi
* Al-Jayyani
* Abū Ishāq Ibrāhīm al-Zarqālī (Arzachel)
* Al-Mu'taman ibn Hud
* Omar Khayyám
* Al-Khazini
* Ibn Bajjah (Avempace)
* Al-Ghazali (Algazel)
* Al-Marrakushi
* Al-Samawal
* Averroes
* Avicenna
* Hunayn ibn Ishaq
* Ibn al-Banna'
* Ibn al-Shatir
* Ja'far ibn Muhammad Abu Ma'shar al-Balkhi (Albumasar)
* Jamshīd al-Kāshī
* Kamāl al-Dīn al-Fārisī
* Muḥyi al-Dīn al-Maghribī
* Maryam Mirzakhani
* Mo'ayyeduddin Urdi
* Muhammad Baqir Yazdi
* Nasir al-Din al-Tusi, 13th century Persian mathematician and philosopher
* Qāḍī Zāda al-Rūmī
* Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi
* Shams al-Dīn al-Samarqandī
* Sharaf al-Dīn al-Tūsī
* Taqi al-Din Muhammad ibn Ma'ruf
* Ulugh Beg

* Cumrun Vafa

Biologists, neuroscientists, and psychologists

Further information: Islamic psychological thought

* Ibn Sirin (654–728), author of work on dreams and dream interpretation[22]
* Al-Kindi (Alkindus), pioneer of psychotherapy and music therapy[23]
* Ali ibn Sahl Rabban al-Tabari, pioneer of psychiatry, clinical psychiatry and clinical psychology[24]
* Ahmed ibn Sahl al-Balkhi, pioneer of mental health,[25] medical psychology, cognitive psychology, cognitive therapy, psychophysiology and psychosomatic medicine[26]
* Al-Farabi (Alpharabius), pioneer of social psychology and consciousness studies[27]
* Ali ibn Abbas al-Majusi (Haly Abbas), pioneer of neuroanatomy, neurobiology and neurophysiology[27]
* Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi (Abulcasis), pioneer of neurosurgery[28]
* Ibn al-Haytham (Alhazen), founder of experimental psychology, psychophysics, phenomenology and visual perception[29]
* Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, pioneer of reaction time[30]
* Avicenna (Ibn Sina), pioneer of neuropsychiatry,[31] thought experiment, self-awareness and self-consciousness[32]
* Ibn Zuhr (Avenzoar), pioneer of neurology and neuropharmacology[28]
* Averroes, pioneer of Parkinson's disease[28]
* Ibn Tufail, pioneer of tabula rasa and nature versus nurture[33]
* Mir Sajad,Neuroscientist and pioneer in neuroinflammation and neurogenesis.[34][35]
* Choudhury Mahmood Hasan

Physicians and surgeons

Main article: Muslim doctors
Further information: Islamic medicine

* Khalid ibn Yazid (Calid)
* Jafar al-Sadiq
* Shapur ibn Sahl (d. 869), pioneer of pharmacy and pharmacopoeia[36]
* Al-Kindi (Alkindus) (801-873), pioneer of pharmacology[37]
* Abbas Ibn Firnas (Armen Firman) (810-887)
* Al-Jahiz, pioneer of natural selection
* Ali ibn Sahl Rabban al-Tabari, pioneer of medical encyclopedia[24]
* Ahmed ibn Sahl al-Balkhi
* Ishaq bin Ali al-Rahwi (854–931), pioneer of peer review and medical peer review[38]
* Al-Farabi (Alpharabius)
* Ibn Al-Jazzar (circa 898-980)
* Abul Hasan al-Tabari - physician
* Ali ibn Sahl Rabban al-Tabari - physician
* Ali ibn Abbas al-Majusi (d. 994), pioneer of obstetrics and perinatology[39]
* Abu Gaafar Amed ibn Ibrahim ibn abi Halid al-Gazzar (10th century), pioneer of dental restoration[40]
* Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi (Abulcasis) - father of modern surgery, and pioneer of neurosurgery,[28] craniotomy,[39] hematology[41] and dental surgery[42]
* Ibn al-Haytham (Alhacen), pioneer of eye surgery, visual system[43] and visual perception[44]
* Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī
* Avicenna (Ibn Sina) (980-1037) - father of modern medicine,[45] founder of Unani medicine,[41] pioneer of experimental medicine, evidence-based medicine, pharmaceutical sciences, clinical pharmacology,[46] aromatherapy,[47] pulsology and sphygmology,[48] and also a philosopher
* Hakim Syed Zillur Rahman, physician of Unani medicine
* Ibn Miskawayh
* Ibn Zuhr (Avenzoar) - father of experimental surgery,[49] and pioneer of experimental anatomy, experimental physiology, human dissection, autopsy[50] and tracheotomy[51]
* Ibn Bajjah (Avempace)
* Ibn Tufail (Abubacer)
* Averroes
* Ibn al-Baitar
* Ibn Jazla
* Nasir al-Din Tusi
* Ibn al-Nafis (1213–1288), father of circulatory physiology, pioneer of circulatory anatomy,[52] and founder of Nafisian anatomy, physiology,[53] pulsology and sphygmology[54]
* Ibn al-Quff (1233–1305), pioneer of embryology[39]
* Kamāl al-Dīn al-Fārisī
* Ibn al-Khatib (1313–1374)
* Mansur ibn Ilyas
* Saghir Akhtar - pharmacist
* Syed Ziaur Rahman, pharmacologist
* Toffy Musivand
* Muhammad B. Yunus, the "father of our modern view of fibromyalgia"[55]
* Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor, pioneer of biomedical research in space[56][57]
* Hulusi Behçet, known for the discovery of Behçet's disease
* Ibrahim B. Syed - radiologist
* Mehmet Öz, cardiothoracic surgeon
* Abdul Qayyum Rana, Neurologist known for his work on Parkinson's disease

Physicists and engineers

Further information: Islamic physics

* Jafar al-Sadiq, 8th century
* Banū Mūsā (Ben Mousa), 9th century
o Ja'far Muhammad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
o Ahmad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
o Al-Hasan ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
* Abbas Ibn Firnas (Armen Firman), 9th century
* Al-Saghani, 10th century
* Abū Sahl al-Qūhī (Kuhi), 10th century
* Ibn Sahl, 10th century
* Ibn Yunus, 10th century
* Al-Karaji, 10th century
* Ibn al-Haytham (Alhacen), 11th century Iraqi scientist, father of optics,[58] pioneer of scientific method[59] and experimental physics,[60] considered the "first scientist"[61]
* Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, 11th century, pioneer of experimental mechanics[62]
* Avicenna, 11th century
* Al-Khazini, 12th century
* Ibn Bajjah (Avempace), 12th century
* Hibat Allah Abu'l-Barakat al-Baghdaadi (Nathanel), 12th century
* Averroes, 12th century Andalusian mathematician, philosopher and medical expert
* Al-Jazari, 13th century civil engineer, father of robotics,[3]
* Nasir al-Din Tusi, 13th century
* Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi, 13th century
* Kamāl al-Dīn al-Fārisī, 13th century
* Ibn al-Shatir, 14th century
* Taqi al-Din Muhammad ibn Ma'ruf, 16th century
* Hezarfen Ahmet Celebi, 17th century
* Lagari Hasan Çelebi, 17th century
* Sake Dean Mahomet, 18th century
* Fazlur Khan, 20th century Bangladeshi mechanician
* Mahmoud Hessaby, 20th century Iranian physicist
* Ali Javan, 20th century Iranian physicist
* Bacharuddin Jusuf Habibie, 20th century Indonesian aerospace engineer and president
* Abdul Kalam, Indian aeronautical engineer and nuclear scientist
* Mehran Kardar, Iranian theoretical physicist
* Cumrun Vafa, Iranian mathematical physicist
* Abdus Salam, Ahmadiyya (non-Muslim under Pakistani law) Pakistani theoretical physicist and Nobel Laureate,
* Nima Arkani-Hamed, American-born Iranian physicist
* Abdel Nasser Tawfik, Egyptian-born German particle physicist
* Munir Nayfeh Palestinian-American particle physicist
* Riazuddin, Pakistani theoretical physicist
* Abdul Qadeer Khan, Pakistani nuclear scientist
* Ali Musharafa, Egyptian nuclear physicist
* Sameera Moussa, Egyptian nuclear physicist
* Munir Ahmad Khan, Father of Pakistan's nuclear program
* Kerim Kerimov, a founder of Soviet space program, a lead architect behind first human spaceflight (Vostok 1), and the lead architect of the first space stations (Salyut and Mir)[63][64]
* Farouk El-Baz, a NASA scientist involved in the first Moon landings with the Apollo program[65]

Political scientists

* Syed Qutb
* Mohammad Baqir al-Sadr
* Abul Ala Maududi
* Hasan al-Turabi
* Hassan al-Banna
* Mohamed Hassanein Heikal
* M. A. Muqtedar Khan
* Rashid al-Ghannushi

Other scientists and inventors

* Azizul Haque

List of Muslim scientists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Lot of Them are Arabs and Iranians not related to pakistan :P

No matter how much India's cry, the indus vally is in pakistan now and will be part of their heritage always.

Most of the IVC sites are there in pakistan, India also has these cities in Rajasthan and Gujarat. IVC donot entirely belong to Pakistan.

oldest evidence of chess is in Iran, made by the ancient persian in the sassanid era.
they try and steal everything...from pakistani culture ro Iranian aryan to chess.

Chess,Alzebra, Decimal system belong to India do not twist with your ignorant posts.
 
Sssssssshhhhh !! We cant do that.
Regions near River Indus were purposefully given to Present day Pakistan by RAW & HINDUTVA groups.
Real Aim was to create identity crisis in Pakistan.Just See how good it worked ! lols

Those regions were given because those regions are the outposts of Indian empire.
 
hahahhaa....

madira paan was available thousands of years ago even the times of mahabharat :lol: or b4 even...

sharab means madira in sanskrit ...so concept of muslims fails here... :wave:
 
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