Muslims in Europe face discrimination: Amnesty

[Agni5000]

As some one said worst of Europe in racism better than 10 times the best of muslim world.

All they need is numbers. As long as their % 1-2. Peace loving.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

As some one said worst of Europe in racism better than 10 times the best of muslim world.

All they need is numbers. As long as their % 1-2. Peace loving.

So you're saying that Indian Muslims are not peace loving? Since they make up FAR more than 1-2% of the Indian population, with a much faster birth rate than the average?

 

[Agni5000]

So you're saying that Indian Muslims are not peace loving? Since they make up FAR more than 1-2% of the Indian population, with a much faster birth rate than the average?

Yes. It is truth. They are not evenly distributed. riots in the places where they are in 10-20%. Other parts peace loving.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Yes. It is truth. They are not evenly distributed. riots in the places where they are in 10-20%. Other parts peace loving.

You know the Muslim birth rate in India is far higher than the average? So inevitably they will reach 40-50% of the population in the future.

What will you do then, according to your own theory?

 

[Agni5000]

You know the Muslim birth rate in India is far higher than the average? So inevitably they will reach 40-50% of the population in the future.

What will you do then, according to your own theory?

No it will not happen anytime. They will grow in their pockets of places. Anyway no peace now also in those places. They will just vote bank for politicians.

 

[Cloakedvessel]

The report seems to be mostly based on vague surveys and testimonies of alleged victims (mostly people who did not get the job, and therefore probably felt discriminated). Not a worrying report, but minor concerns which can be dealt with.

The only valid point maybe is the ban of new minarets in Switzerland, but this kind of injustice against minorities goes pale in comparison with minority treatment in other parts of the world like honor killing of women in Jordan after a rumor, throwing acid in the face of women in Afghanistan, forcing non-Muslims to convert in Pakistan, killing of Christians in Nigeria or female mutilation in Egypt.

To get the whole picture Amnesty should also investigate the discrimination of non-Muslims by Muslims in Europe. To give you a glance what you can expect from such an investigation:

Muslim gang jailed for kidnapping and raping two girls as part of their Eid celebrations | Mail Online

The severity and scale of discrimination of non-Muslims would probably fade away in comparison with this recent account of alleged, wide scale mistreatment of European Muslims.

 

[ksgokul]

No it will not happen anytime. They will grow in their pockets of places. Anyway no peace now also in those places. They will just vote bank for politicians.

The radicals in any religion are not conducive to peace. Even the radical hindu elements are causing a lot of nuisance in our country. It would be a stupid idea to group people based on religion and branding a religion. The struggle in our country is always between Secular people Vs Radicals and we have the majority secular.

On topic, only way to address this phenomenon in european countries is to profile the people by the country of origin. If that country is a theocratic state and the person belong to the majority, then he should have tougher immigration norms. This will force those countries to become secular.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The report seems to be mostly based on vague surveys and testimonies of alleged victims (mostly people who did not get the job, and therefore probably felt discriminated). Not a worrying report, but minor concerns which can be dealt with.

The only valid point maybe is the ban of new minarets in Switzerland, but this kind of injustice against minorities goes pale in comparison with minority treatment in other parts of the world like honor killing of women in Jordan after a rumor, throwing acid in the face of women in Afghanistan, forcing non-Muslims to convert in Pakistan, killing of Christians in Nigeria or female mutilation in Egypt.

To get the whole picture Amnesty should also investigate the discrimination of non-Muslims by Muslims in Europe. To give you a glance what you can expect from such an investigation:

Muslim gang jailed for kidnapping and raping two girls as part of their Eid celebrations | Mail Online

The severity and scale of discrimination of non-Muslims would probably fade away in comparison with this recent account of alleged, wide scale mistreatment of European Muslims.

Hmm... honor killings,acid throwin etc crimes in general... are they part of "racism and discrimination" against women? considering the criminals are thrown into jails and even if they get out they become outcastes in the society.. are u tellin me tht muslim countries with over 1.65 billion people support them? also do u consider tht the crimes takin place in different societies are a trend or acceptable in our countries? dnt u think they are just random crimes not systematic racism or discrimination like the one faced by evil muslims in europe? do u want me to come up with crime figures from EU? would tht mean tht all europeans are rapist,incest loving,racists,colonial mass murderers?

Just coz germans killed 6 million jews does tht make u all of you pschyos?..... the news u posted... is tht a race crime,discrimination or did the criminals have the intent of the crime rather than anything else?

How abt this german serial rapist?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...mu3CAQ&usg=AFQjCNFotHJVThTjSPAt8ROc8N9EUAveWw

I guess he also represents german society n culture andtht all germans are like him... so what if tht gang raped 2 poor girls?...........but nah....... im not a thick head intolerant b,....! so il just say tht hes just a sick individual.
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@agni-5000,...... hahahahah evil indian muslims... would love to know what they think abt ur post...... where is tht newbie faizahmed?achepthemnol? ejazR etc? they make me laugh.

 

[JayAtl]

^^^ why would you think those Indian Muslim posters need to rebutt or post in response. Just like you and many of your ilk celebrated when your governor was gunned down by radical Islamist , India has its posters of extreme thought.

However I do agree that crimes of acid throwing , honor killing etc are not the source of discrimination. Rather it is extremist thoughts, actions and largely muted moderate Muslim population that illicit such a reaction in Europe.

Mind you this was not prevelant like it is now just 2 decades ago. The Muslim extremist where also never so demanding of changing laws to be that of sharia back then too. Direct line can be drawn with rise of extremism and attitudes changing ALA perception of the Muslim religion worldwide. You might cal Islam a peaceful religion and it may well as be so- but all the west is seeing is violence, violence in the name of Islam and that drives perception.

 

[SHAMK9]

As some one said worst of Europe in racism better than 10 times the best of muslim world.

All they need is numbers. As long as their % 1-2. Peace loving.

Thn call back those millions of Indians who escape India to work in middle east aka "evil Muslim states"

 

[Developereo]

The report seems to be mostly based on vague surveys and testimonies of alleged victims (mostly people who did not get the job, and therefore probably felt discriminated). Not a worrying report, but minor concerns which can be dealt with.

Perhaps English is not your primary language, but the report is based on actual European laws, not "vague reports". Secondly, you are trying to compare individual actions to institutionalized discrimination by a dominant majority enshrined in law.

Also, thanks for proving what a bigot you are by viewing your own citizens as aliens belonging to Afghanistan or wherever. The issue is discrimination in Europe against European citizens.

Try addressing the topic instead of finding excuses for your prejudice and running off into off-topic nonsense.

^^^ why would you think those Indian Muslim posters need to rebutt or post in response. Just like you and many of your ilk celebrated when your governor was gunned down by radical Islamist , India has its posters of extreme thought.

We know you are a suicide troll who NEVER posts anything on topic. I expect you will slither off into one of your other IDs eventually.

 

[JayAtl]

We know you are a suicide troll who NEVER posts anything on topic. I expect you will slither off into one of your other IDs eventually.

One would he as a THINK TANK you would read the post I was replying to in its entirety before throwing a hissy fit. He clearly in last few sentences called attention to a different point and named/ wondered about Indian Muslim posters reaction. To which I aptly replied. What shame that a title does not give credence to one's comprehension ability. I don't have another ID brother, I am quite happy owning my thoughts under this name.

This was his quote I replied in context for your benefit . I know you glaze through replies because your attention span waivers .

@agni-5000,...... hahahahah evil indian muslims... would love to know what they think abt ur post...... where is tht newbie faizahmed?achepthemnol? ejazR etc? they make me laugh.

 

[Developereo]

Hmm... honor killings,acid throwin etc crimes in general...

Their logic is incredible.

So, just because some criminals throw acid on women in Afghanistan, the German schools will forbid German citizens of Muslim faith to have access to equal education unless they remove their headscarf.

Brilliant logic!

One would he as a THINK TANK you would read the post I was replying to in its entirety before throwing a hissy fit. He clearly in last few sentences called attention to a different point and named/ wondered about Indian Muslim posters reaction. To which I aptly replied. What shame that a title does not give credence to one's comprehension ability. I don't have another ID brother, I am quite happy owning my thoughts under this name.

You edited your post AFTER I posted my comment. Your initial post was nothing but a typical off-topic tirade.

Just because you think you can fool people by post-editing doesn't mean it actually fools anybody.

 

[JayAtl]

You edited your post AFTER I posted my comment. Your initial post was nothing but a typical off-topic tirade.

Just because you think you can fool people by post-editing doesn't mean it actually fools anybody.

I did no such thing. Again as a THINK TANK you should have known that because you quoted me verbatim. The only thing I did was start a new and seperate paragraph about a completely different point. My original post and thought that you objected to as being off topic still stands. It never changed it .. And as I said you quoted me and the text remains the same.

You are caught not reading the post in entireity , throwing your typical low quality rebuttals and post and when called out , you are digging a bigger hole of lies and deceit. Shameful.

Why is so difficult for you apologize that you never read the post and jumped to conclusion. The man said what about Indian Muslim posters ( naming a few) would say about Agni 5000 rather extreme points. I said why should they have to reply, India has its extreme thinkers too like yours. What got you so perturbed about that claim?

 

[Developereo]

I did no such thing. Again as a THINK TANK you should have known that because you quoted me verbatim. The only thing I did was start a new and seperate paragraph about a completely different point. My original post and thought that you objected to as being off topic still stands. It never changed it .. And as I said you quoted me and the text remains the same.

You are caught not reading the post in entireity , throwing your typical low quality rebuttals and post and when called out , you are digging a bigger hole of lies and deceit. Shameful.

I read and quoted your post in entirety. If you are responding to somebody, use the quote feature. In your case, you only added the context afterwards, not that it justifies anything.

It still does not change the fact that your rant was off-topic. Just because someone else is doing it is no excuse for you to do it. If you don't understand the concept of off-topic, spend some time during your next time off to read up on it.

On topic, you are parroting your typical apologetic legitimization of the discrimination. Your "points" have already been addressed earlier in the thread.