Muslims in Britain should take counter-extremism lessons: Tahir ul Qadri

[SQ8]

British muslims are turning extremist by large droves.. and are coming to Pakistan to get further indoctrinated.

 

[Zibago]

British muslims are turning extremist by large droves.. and are coming to Pakistan to get further indoctrinated.

Who needs to come to Pakistan when you have mullahs like Anjum Chuadry in UK

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Bhai fatwa lagwana hay kufar ka

@Azad-Kashmiri is the new @Zarvan

Bhai I'm not a Mufti to give fatwa. I follow Ulma Ikram of Sunni-Braveli thareeqah. The previous poster was making statements that had NO relevance to what I posted.

 

[Zarvan]

Can you give me one example of any mainstream religion ( Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism etc ) or any secular society that finds "killing innocent people acceptable"?

Then do you want to explain why Muslims are not being killed like dogs in UK ( Dar al Harb ) and why Muslims are being killed like rats in Pakistan ( Dar al Islam ) ?

Because UK is busy killing Muslims all around the world and also supporting mass murder done by Israel

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Because UK is busy killing Muslims all around the world and also supporting mass murder done by Israel

I am rather confused with this. How is British killing Muslims have anything to do with Muslims being killed inside Pakistan?

Banal ...

 

[Zarvan]

I am rather confused with this. How is British killing Muslims have anything to do with Muslims being killed inside Pakistan?

Banal ...

I am not talking about that I am saying if UK will Muslims and attack Islam than they should not expect flowers in return its basic simple human fact. As for Muslims being killed inside Pakistan that also started when we became partners with USA and NATO and our policies ended up creating monsters known as TTP which has resulted in civil war in Pakistan so even that is interlinked with USA and UK and NATO invasion of Afghanistan and also MI6 support to terrorism in Karachi specially MQM.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Who needs to come to Pakistan when you have mullahs like Anjum Chuadry in UK

I searched who this guy is, he's NO alim! What Islamic credentials does he have? He's no different than those who use Google.

To answer your off-topic comment; If Zavan has good understanding of Islam, then I'm proud to be associated with him. Muslims are brothers of one another!

My posts are clear expression of my love for Islam. Allah has blessed me and honoured me with Islam!

 

[Zibago]

I searched who this guy is, he's NO alim! What Islamic credentials does he have? He's no different than those who use Google.

To answer your off-topic comment; If Zavan has good understanding of Islam, then I'm proud to be associated with him. Muslims are brothers of one another!

My posts are clear expression of my love for Islam. Allah has blessed me and honoured me with Islam!

He is a Braki who is responsible for radicalization of British Muslims and the main reason why so many Brits are joining ISIS

I am rather confused with this. How is British killing Muslims have anything to do with Muslims being killed inside Pakistan?

Banal ...

Its easier to blame the OTHER GUY than to look into the fault of your own ways

 

[flamer84]

Funny you say that. In another thread this lot were baying for my blood because I opposed the "Afghans" being booted out of Pakistan. Now that the boot is on the other foot the same people are going to singing another tune ...


Amazing example of bloody hypocracy. As regards so called "Muslim brotherhood" bah? It definitly does not exist in Pakistan.

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Even so,there's nothing wrong in opposing state decisions in a democratic society.If muslims want to oppose foreign interventions they re within their rights to peaceful protests.I'm just arguing Zarvan's theory that they should obey muslim laws first and then state laws and that attacks against civilians in their adoptive countries are somehow justified because of that country's foreign policies.

When i talk about muslim laws @Luffy 500 's thread comes to mind:"A muslim living in kuffar and and working with kuffars should never initiate the greeting first to his kuffar colleagues"....just an example...i mean WTF ? Really ?

I agree with you those Muslims who live in non-Muslims should obey the law of the land. In a Muslim country like mine, non-Muslim laws ''don't mean anything for the rest of us, they're equal to 0, we care nothing for them''.

Agreed,to each his own.

 

[ZooZoo]

It can happen if British first stops being partners with USA in attacking Muslim lands.

And British should do following thing first
1. Bring Sharia law
2. Allow Halal food
3. remove haram food
4. During Ramzan no public eating/drinking
5. In Muslim area no women should wear modern dress, even Brits also wear Burka

Because Musalman has done great favor by keeping there pious land on UK.

Isn't it sir Zarvan???

 

[EasyNow]

Agreed. I felt it in early 1980s. The seed was sprouting. Our school got visited by YMA. Around 1990 a university in Birmingham was brimming with various groups. There were lots of senior Arabs mostly asylum seekers from the secular Arab countries like Iraq/Eygpt/Tunisia who all had the young Pakistani's students in the palm of their hands. The signs of trouble were there ...



Rule of law. He may hold ridicalous views but thus far he has not broken the law. He has caused so much resentment with the English in particular by demonstrating near a military air base where dead British soldiers came back from Afghanistan. All that anger rebounds on British Pakistani's. Of course being more law abiding the English are not beating us up or killing us but trust me lot of them are annoyed. I talk a lot to them and lot of them support more extreme parties that want Muslim immigration to stop.

Yes some of those same Egyptian and Syrian refugees - who always seemed so sure of themselves and had all the answers - are now confused and discarded when their foolishness has led to it's inevitable outcome (ultra extremist ISIS).

How Isis crippled al-Qaida | Shiv Malik, Ali Younes, Spencer Ackerman, Mustafa Khalili | World news | The Guardian

Unfortunately it's come too late for the ones whom they indoctrinated.

@Zarvan and any other wannabe jihadis, please read the truth in the article above from your own ideologues.

 

[Zarvan]

Yes some of those same Egyptian and Syrian refugees - who always seemed so sure of themselves and had all the answers - are now confused and discarded naw that their foolishness has led it's inevitable outcome.

How Isis crippled al-Qaida | Shiv Malik, Ali Younes, Spencer Ackerman, Mustafa Khalili | World news | The Guardian

Unfortunately it's come too late for the ones whom they indoctrinated.

@Zarvan and any other wannabe jihadis, please read the truth in the article above from your own ideologues.

The Guardian jokers will tell the truth good joke I must say

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Yeah did god tell u this?

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. (Surah Al-Imran v85)

He is a Braki who is responsible for radicalization of British Muslims and the main reason why so many Brits are joining ISIS

I can't find any information on Braki. It seems like Muslims in Britain are not Islamically educated and are joining a khawarij group like ISIS. This argument of ''radicalization'' or whatever that means does not stand. I have already stated they must be bored, or maybe they don't feel welcomed. It does not make sense why someone would leave a good life to go to the ''dogs of hell''.

 

[livingdead]

I think syria is a special case, it touched a raw nerve among sunnis. They saw in UK media how assad is an incarnation of satan buchering kids and women alike. UK media was drumming such stories( with lot of truth in it no doubt) and UK govt was readying to help resistance fighter, which they could not.

People who are joining ISIS do not believe western media, and think ISIS are a bunch of righteous people living by the scripture. Its the life they dreamed of, and cannot find in UK. It does not mean they want to harm UK necessarily, they are simply emmigrating to a new country. Reality will hit hard when they reach that magical place.

 

[EasyNow]

The Guardian jokers will tell the truth good joke I must say

It's an interview with Abu qatada and Al Maqdisi - they have willingly cooperated with these liars then.

Just because it does not fit with your world view of a unified Jihadi movement, you should not reject it.