Muslims in Britain should take counter-extremism lessons: Tahir ul Qadri

[Zarvan]

They are first citizens of that country,they owe that country their new life,when you owe a life you don't pay back by taking the life of the one who received you in.

Sorry they are first and foremost Muslims. Every Muslim first and only loyalty to is Islam. Every Muslim should follow law of the land as long as it doesn't go against Islam.

 

[flamer84]

Sorry they are first and foremost Muslims. Every Muslim first and only loyalty to is Islam. Every Muslim should follow law of the land as long as it doesn't go against Islam.

It's pretty obvious that some "laws of the land" go against Islam.It is only natural that those that think like you should be thrown out or removed from mainstream society.Tit for that,live in your land how you want,Muslim laws don't mean anything for the rest of us,they're equal to 0,we care nothing for them.

 

[bhola singh]

Because all muslims need a de-radicalisation?

Ones that want to immigrate to the west.

There is almost invariably a disconnect in the value systems that Muslims come from vs the west.

Probably get acclimatized to basic free world values like freedom of speech and tolerance for starters.

 

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Sorry they are first and foremost Muslims. Every Muslim first and only loyalty to is Islam. Every Muslim should follow law of the land as long as it doesn't go against Islam.

Ergo, there is no place for Muslims in select "lands" as obviously they provide discrimination to Muslims when they do not harmonize their laws with existing Islamic dogma.

Or how do you suggest we solve this conondrum?
For a start i'd suggest you don't reply with some generic "kufr lands must adapt blabla bla, demographic dying blablabla".
We will be alive long enough to create a solution for this, don't worry. The embrio's of this solution are well described in Jungibaaz's posts as of late.

 

[SHAMK9]

I would not want to live in a muslim neighborhood of Britain, shit's extreme

 

[xenon54 out]

Ones that want to immigrate to the west.

There is almost invariably a disconnect in the value systems that Muslims come from vs the west.

Probably get acclimatized to basic free world values like freedom of speech and tolerance for starters.

Nice generalizing.

 

[bhola singh]

Nice generalizing.

A general look around in western countries with regards to Muslims supports this hypothesis.

 

[xenon54 out]

A general look around in western countries with regards to Muslims supports this hypothesis.

Im living in Europe and you are wrong.

 

[bhola singh]

I'm not really gonna Google the ISIS recruitment in Britain and mainland

That not even talking about ghettoization, burka shyt, grooming of underage girls because they are white meat and fair game lacking religious piety of muslims, sharia zones etc etc etc...

 

[Koovie]

It can happen if British first stops being partners with USA in attacking Muslim lands.

Then they can protest against that with democratic means... but radicalization must be dealt without mercy. After all, they are the strangers who have to adopt to their new home and integrate into British society.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Muslims in Britain are doing fine job. there are few nuts in every community and Muslims are not exception. British government should learn lessons from previous military adventure in Muslim countries with Uncle SAM and should concentrate on his own country and welfare of people instead of blindly supporting USA invasion in different countries. Nothing good come out of it when your poke your nose in internal affairs of other socuntries

 

[Indus Pakistan]

It's pretty obvious that some "laws of the land" go against Islam.It is only natural that those that think like you should be thrown out or removed from mainstream society.Tit for that,live in your land how you want,Muslim laws don't mean anything for the rest of us,they're equal to 0,we care nothing for them.

Funny you say that. In another thread this lot were baying for my blood because I opposed the "Afghans" being booted out of Pakistan. Now that the boot is on the other foot the same people are going to singing another tune ...


Amazing example of bloody hypocracy. As regards so called "Muslim brotherhood" bah? It definitly does not exist in Pakistan.

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other socuntries

Wordplay on "societies", "cunt" and "countries"? I like it! Countries with cunt societies!

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Wordplay on "societies", "cunt" and "countries"? I like it! Countries with cunt societies!

British had no element of extremism in their society when they were not puppet of USA..
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British had no element of extremism in their society when they were not puppet of USA..
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Doubtful.
Perhaps not extremism per se, but most likely a discrepancy between values of both host population and Muslim immigrants (and their children) was already there. Exacerbated more by US adventurism.

In my humble opinion, the practice of bringing home a girl from rural Pakistan contributes a lot to this. It serves to entrench the husband in his views of "i am king" and later on, when they have kids, she cannot exert any meaningful or beneficial influence on the offspring.

Who quickly turn to drugs and petty crime when they find out 2nd grade of high school is too demanding. I know it's generalizing, but i've seen this in both Switzerland and Slovenia. Kids that barely made it out of elementary school, only to drop out in high school...because listening at class is too mainstream.