Muslim women praise ‘Imam-e-Hind’ Shri Ram

[uparyupari]

Ram is not an imam shimam.. he is God Himself just like jesus or allah.

Jesus was not god. he was "son of god".

 

[That Guy]

'And certainly We sent Messengers before you; there are some of them that We have mentioned to you and there are others whom we have not mentioned to you.' (HOLY QUR'AN: Ghaafir 40:78)

And again that is not evidence. How do we know it wasn't someone else that was a prophet instead of Ram? You're arguing for the sake of arguing. There is 0 evidence yo suggest he was an Islamic prophet.

Besides, aren't you Hindu? Why are you so bent on proving something you don't actually believe in? If you do believe in it, why not just become Muslim?

 

[uparyupari]

Whatever they are doing if its all a part of an act being put on then they are actually doing much harm to Hinduism. There is no such idea of Imam in hindutwa and by endorsing such artificial notions we are reiterating a common misconception that is prevelant amongst the muslim masses which is that all religion would gradually merge into Islam at some point of time. These are theories propagated by lunatics like Zakir Naik. Islam and Hinduism are two alien cultures. If you try too hard to find commonalities it would end up doing more harm. It is about time that we accept it or else some other Maulbi would start claiming that Muhammad was an avtar of Lord Ram. We won't be happy with that.

Who is "WE won't be happy with that" ?

Hinduism is far too broad and accommodating to be straight jacketed by your narrow definitions.

 

[That Guy]

Jesus was not god. he was "son of god".

According to Christians, he was God

 

[mauka]

Jesus was not god. he was "son of god".

what do you mean son of god? is god male or female to beget a son? ok, that's the Christian faith. but jesus was god himself. there is god in everyone. its just that jesus found the god in him and told the world about it.

 

[uparyupari]

According to Christians, he was God

Nope he was not. He was always "son of god".

 

[mauka]

According to Christians, he was God

indeed. it does not matter. Humans are fascinated with the concept of chicken or egg first theory. God was created by himans who believe that god created humans. THis is a classic proof that we like the chicken and egg puzzle.

 

[livingdead]

LOL. Why should I make a idol of muhammed and put in him in my pooja room ? Should I put idol of Katrina kaif too ?

At least talk sense.

so how are you going to make it 'mutual'... what respect have you shown for islam

 

[uparyupari]

what do you mean son of god? is god male or female to beget a son? ok, that's the Christian faith. but jesus was god himself. there is god in everyone. its just that jesus found the god in him and told the world about it.

I don't mean anything. For Christians he is "son of god"........ i.e..... "god" impregnated Mary and Jesus was born. ergo. "son of god".

Are you reinventing christianity ?

so how are you going to make it 'mutual'... what respect have you shown for islam

Why should I make it mutual ? .............. is this a Negotiation ?

 

[mauka]

I don't mean anything. For Christians he is "son of god"........ i.e..... "god" impregnated Mary and Jesus was born. Argo. "sun of god".

Are you reinventing christianity ?

all religions were conceived (invented) and propagated by man.

btw, we have impregnated our minds with the concept of god thru the syringe of religion.

 

[That Guy]

That is between you and him.

However the fact remain you cannot apply "Logic" to a matter of "belief". Where is the evidence that the Quran is the word of god ? There is no evidence. Its only your belief.

Its no different from OPs belief.

Logic can apply, if used correctly. We're not trying prove the authenticity of Islam or the Qur'an, our argument is completely different, one based on text and basic reasoning skills. Logic isn't an atheistic idea, it is a simply a means of using clear cut and straight forward arguments, to come to a reasonable conclusion based on topic.

When people argue on star wars, and why the storm troopers can't shoot a single person, logic and evidence is used to support their claim. It's as simple as that.

 

[uparyupari]

all religions were conceived (invented) and propagated by man.

btw, we have impregnated our minds with the concept of god thru the syringe of religion.

That is your point of view. Others have a different point of view.

 

[Ababeel]

'There never was a people without a Warner having lived among them' (HOLY QUR'AN: 35:24)

'And certainly We sent Messengers before you; there are some of them that We have mentioned to you and there are others whom we have not mentioned to you.' (HOLY QUR'AN: Ghaafir 40:78)

You are very right in quoting these verses from Quran but a Prophet or Messenger's role is just to spread the message of God Almighty to the people whom he has been sent and to implement it.
Ram may be a Prophet or may not be as their is no any revelation or any other evidence to prove it.
A prophet is a human being and cannot be worshiped or it will become idolatry and Shirk and the whole purpose of his Prophet hood will be destroyed. All the other prophets except the final Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) were sent for a particular period, people and place. After the final prophet there will be no Prophet and the message brought by him is for the whole world as long as it exists as he is the end of the Prophetic chain which started with Adam (PBUH).

Chapter (21) sūrat l-anbiyāa (The Prophets)


Sahih International: And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.

Chapter (3) sūrat āl ʿim'rān (The Family of Imrān)


Sahih International: Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them - out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account.

 

[Hindustani78]

Hind does not consist of just India , Hind means Pakistan , India , Bangladesh and closing countries ...
and yes there are many Messengers Allah has sent , but we know of only 25, mentioned in Quran ..

and considering Ram as a Messenger , it depends on his teaching , Cause all messengers just ask their people to worship One god , and avoid Idol worshiping .. If Ram , has encourage idol worship , than he is not a Messenger ..

Hind is the land which is beyond the River Indus and for centuaries this land is called Hind, Hindustan and the native people call it Bharat Varsh.

Messengers are role models and Lord Rama even do have a book. What is wrong in calling him Imam e Hind ? The word imam is an Arabic work that means “leader.” who is an role model. why it should be any issue when majority of hindus see Lord Ram as role model ?

 

[mauka]

Logic can apply, if used correctly. We're not trying prove the authenticity of Islam or the Qur'an, our argument is completely different, one based on text and basic reasoning skills. Logic isn't an atheistic idea, it is a simply a means of using clear cut and straight forward arguments, to come to a reasonable conclusion based on topic.

When people argue on star wars, and why the storm troopers can't shoot a single person, logic and evidence is used to support their claim. It's as simple as that.

Sirji, we are talking faith . where is the question of evidence and proof ? in fact is there evidence that Ram existed? or that jesus is god or that mohammad received the message of God or that God exists or that god is good ?
anyway, yeh aasta ki baat hai . experience keejiye, investigate mat kariye.