Muslim woman passenger faces strange discrimination in United Airlines.

[nik22]

I can't believe it. If Airline even had policy of not giving unopened can, they would open in front of passenger.
Can we really trust every social post?

 

[tested]

The reality that no Muslim likes to talk about is that - Muslims don't really give a $hit when it happens against people of other religions in their home countries.


I don't see why they are complaining now.

 

[gambit]

I can't believe it. If Airline even had policy of not giving unopened can, they would open in front of passenger.
Can we really trust every social post?

Yeah...Something is not right about this story.

Flight attendants are not stupid. They know that most of the time, people do not finish a whole can of soda, so usually the can is opened and some -- not all -- of the beverage is poured into a plastic cup. That way, a can of soda can serve at least two passengers. If you finish whatever amount you received and want more, you will get more -- into your cup.

Something ain't right, bubba...

 

[DrawingDead]

The part of your post I agreed with, I remove from the above as we both agreed on majority of the content. However, the one's highlighted above, I'd like to debate with you on.

1) You are quoting the FBI's hate statistics from 2002. Why didn't you quote 2013 or 2014? The "Islamophobia" isn't a bit exaggerated, its the reality. The new Black Man on the corner is now the Muslim guy. You said that anti-Islam sentiment existed before just like it is today. But you failed to give me proof of what you stated and refer me to over a decade old statistics. If you own sense and logic is SO flawed and its based on data from 14 years ago, why even post such confident grandiose statements about the subject to begin with? False information doesn't make your argument right, in fact, it eats up your valid points too.

2) I don't know how much you know the law and how law enforcement actually works. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that many anti-muslim issues such as denial of firing of individual/s or threats or verbal abuse aren't classified as crimes and the FBI doesn't get involved with those. The FBI has far more serious things to do then to do find out why a guy cursed out a Muslim man on the corner of 96th street and Columbus ave in New York City. So hundreds of these events actually go unnoticed as they are mere threats or conversations if you will. Or issues of Civil nature, not a crime.

Just for your own understanding, I found a couple of links which might give you a broader picture of the issue. The Media sure as hell as a HUGE responsibility. The media prepares nations for wars and all, the media is what riled us up about Iraq and all when IMO, we needed to be in Afghanistan with all of our might, looking for that bastard OBL who killed our civilians. But that's history, but it shows what Media can do and that's true for ANY country.

3 If the Media acts maturely and doesn't over hype the Middle Eastern situation 4000 miles away from that region into our country, or other uncivil acts taking place in other Islamic countries far from us, I think we wouldn't see this surge. The media is portraying "Us vs. them" now, more than any other time. You referred to these people as cowards. I am sorry, the entire Conservative Church based Republican party comes into that. You have Harvard educated politicians who are supporting "us vs. them" agenda. Remember Sarah Palin for one example? Or Ms. Bachmann from the the Team Party? How many people will become "cowards" if I take your suggestions???
Bottom line is, we are all humans and we should not put divides between the American public. You are almost right, there are actually more than 7 million Muslims in America. Their youth (kids born and / or raised in America) are just as Americans as you and I. So, it doesn't make sense to start the KKK type of a show in 2015, when we are the champion of democracy with our bill of rights, and a roll model for freedom.

4) You got me ALL wrong. I got nothing to prove to no body. My sentence about saluting the flag wasn't to prove shiit to you. I don't even know if you are the guy living a street over with his picture in child molester's registry permanently so who cares about you. You addressed me in a way that came across as if you were trying to make me understand the American culture or media in this case. I was just setting the tone so you knew I wasn't some fool you think came in on a camel to work here and clean tables. That's all. I think you've gotten a good handle about me by now so we are good.

5) Please research before posting stuff with utter confidence when your research is like 14 years old. By the way, as you are quoting stuff from 2012, I don't know if you are behind that much compared to the rest of the world. Did you know that US soldiers started to come back home from Afghanistan starting 2012? Did you know that they now have major league soccer in the country now? Just letting you know so you could come up the year 2015

Here are some of the links. The first link would CLEARLY tell you that up till 2010, hate crimes against Muslims had started to drop. Then there was a 50% surge due to "MEDIA's Propaganda against Islam", the same point I am trying to make.....anyway, read up on the following please. The point of my entire post is, that we are the champion of democracy and human freedom across the world. We need act responsibly and make sure our media and our people aren't super sensitive to a population of people who is majority America and some have lived here for many generations and they've always followed the law, paid taxes and helped the society. We should help the others integrate into our society vs. making them feel like they are a permanent alien. That's what the UK and France did and they are paying the price. We have a much better country and a system that can help everyone. We have to be guardians of this freedom and this democracy and remain open to others trying to integrate into our society. Good night!

2013: The Year To End Hate Crimes Against American Muslims
Muslims Take Special Precautions For Eid Ul-Fitr

Wow! You really know how to piss a guy off! Ok, here goes:

(1) You should read my post again. But this time, pay particular attention to the part that says "SINCE 2002". The range of 105 - 160 is the lowest and the highest from 2002 to 2013 (2014 and 2015 are not out yet). Your lack of reading comprehension is not really my problem. I can appreciate that English is a second language but going off without reading something carefully?

(2) Every group that has shown up to the U.S. has faced discrimination at some point or the other. Ask the Italians, Irish and the Chinese how badly they were treated when they started showing up. How about the Japanese who were sent to internment camps during World War II? Think you're being treated worse than that? What's happening to the Muslims today is nothing compared to that. You should consider doing what they did. Sack up, work hard and get on with life. The bitching and moaning doesn't endear you to anyone.

(3) In life, we don't get to decide what someone thinks or says about us. That includes media outlets. There is no point in saying they should or shouldn't have something on. But at some point you're going to have to ask yourself why it's not say, Japan that gets all the negative coverage. Could it be that the entire media is pro-Japan? Or is it more likely they aren't out there embarrassing themselves?
The most important point ( that you obviously missed in your zeal to fire back a response) was that people (not just Americans) love to isolate someone and gang up on them. We see it in children and we see it among employees. It just makes them feel better about themselves and makes them forget their failings in life.

(4) This is just you projecting your insecurities on me. I didn't say any of those things. And to be honest, I wasn't even thinking it. I just thought you were trying to say that just because you're a liberal doesn't make you unamerican. Notice that I said "views" and not background or ethnicity in my previous post, you know, the one you're overreacting to?

(5) Already answered along with (1). One of the biggest reasons I try to avoid making idiotic references like your MLS reference is to avoid this very moment. In a split second, you can go from an intelligent poster to an ignorant douche.

Regarding the rest of your post, the only way can make the media stop sensationalizing this stuff is to stop believing everything they say. If we're not buying it, it won't be on the air. So it's really up to us to decide what goes on the air and what doesn't. Being integrated into American society on the other hand, is not our choice to make but it's rather up to the immigrant. Living in group just with their own, doesn't help. It only serves to alienate them from the rest of the populace. Yes, Britain and France made mistakes but you and I will disagree on what they are. So let's leave that for another day.

Good night.

 

[gambit]

Mmmm...Something is not quite right about this story...

10 Things You Didn't Know You Could Ask for on a Plane - SmarterTravel.com

When you factor in the pile of ice that flight attendants load into those little plastic airline cups, you'll find you're not getting much liquid on each pass of the beverage cart. If you've got a thirst that's going to take more than a few tablespoons of soda to quench, consider politely asking your flight attendant for the whole can. Blair says that most of the time, they're happy to oblige. And if they can't—for instance, because the plane is low on cans or isn't getting restocked in the next city—flight attendants will still usually offer to simply come by again to refill your cup.

Do not be surprise that in the next few days, this story begins to unravel.

 

[Audio]

More people should fly middle eastern airlines... especially qatar and etihad... both have excellent service.

Wait a bit, so the tides of fortune turns and massively subsidized ME airlines won't be able to run anymore.

 

[livingdead]

Wait a bit, so the tides of fortune turns and massively subsidized ME airlines won't be able to run anymore.

are they really subsidized... they got better service but they are not really cheap... they are aggressively capturing market.. without competing for lowest price...

 

[DrawingDead]

Mmmm...Something is not quite right about this story...

10 Things You Didn't Know You Could Ask for on a Plane - SmarterTravel.com

Do not be surprise that in the next few days, this story begins to unravel.

It better unravel. I think I may have bet money on it in one of my posts

Edit: latest statement from United regarding this incident. Look like they're going to back the flight attendant. Waiting for the passengers to start talking.

United Hub - Shuttle America Flight 3504 - News

 

[Dubious]

law to madam ji Pakistan ka bahut kuch kehta hai, so dont give me this BS...For example, 22 innocent killed in Pakistan in Balochistan yesterday in open day light...again this is just a reference...

Does the title say Pakistan? Why are indians going overboard to prove their stupidity?

We are talking about America the one that boasts to have good laws of equality and has them ...

Now either discuss the topic or just bugger off and go to some indian forum and drop your shit there they all will be thrilled to have their level guy!

 

[Audio]

are they really subsidized... they got better service but they are not really cheap... they are aggressively capturing market.. without competing for lowest price...

While nothing is for certain, there have been accusations and counter-accusations made lately, mainly by and against US carriers.

US airlines step up attack on Middle East carriers - Al Jazeera English

I would say the owners of the ME airline companies know that they don't have many cards besides oil/gas and so any card they have needs to be maximized. Accordingly one of the accusations made was that Emirates receives cheaper fuel and lower or no airport fees at home. In this case the card would be trying to become a regional transport hub between Europe-Asia/Australia.
The little i know about the matter, i read the airlines presented their books and all seemed in order. But i also know, if i was a determined sheikh who owns an airline and an oil field next door, cooking the books would not be too difficult.

Even if they are subsidized, i don't see any major action happening. Boeing/Airbus and their lobbies like this.

 

[ito]

The best solution is Muslims should fly Airlines of Muslim countries. Muslims will not feel discriminated in their own Airlines.

 

[livingdead]

While nothing is for certain, there have been accusations made lately, mainly by US carriers.

I would say the owners of the ME airline companies know that they don't have many cards besides oil/gas and so any card they have needs to be maximized. Accordingly one of the accusations made was that Emirates receives cheaper fuel and lower or no airport fees at home. In this case the card would be trying to become a regional transport hub between Europe-Asia/Australia.
The little i know about the matter, i read the airlines presented their books and all seemed in order. But i also know, if i was a determined sheikh who owns an airline and an oil field next door, cooking the books would not be too difficult.

Even if they are subsidized, i don't see any major action happening. Boeing/Airbus and their lobbies like this.

I am not complaining... I will have fun till it lasts...
US business group exploit the unfair advantage when they can... and bitch about when others play the same game.

 

[T-Faz]

It was wrong what happened, but the Air Stewardess did apologise and so did the pilot. Read her follow-up below:

The pilot seems like a good man.

 

[gambit]

It was wrong what happened, but the Air Stewardess did apologise and so did the pilot. Read her follow-up below:

The pilot seems like a good man.

The pilot acknowledged his 'white male privilege' guilt ? This has all the markings of political correctness language.

I think you guys got suckered.

 

[salarsikander]

The pilot acknowledged his 'white male privilege' guilt ? This has all the markings of political correctness language.

I think you guys got suckered.

Hi,

That was only after the issue was brought into light.