Well, those "smart" people aren't constantly whining about the media. YOU are. They're minding their own business and getting on with life, just like I'd recommended for your people in a previous post.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'd recommend Honky-Tonk and a beer to you too. But your brethren might lop your head off.
That's because they haven't woven themselves into the fabric of American society like the Irish or Italians have. They've kept to themselves, lived with their own. So they find themselves as perennial outsiders.
No, see that's the thing. If I was in Saudi Arabia or Jordon, I'd follow their rules or leave. I wouldn't sit there, collect welfare and whine about how unfair they're being or how horrible they are as a people. And I certainly wouldn't be demanding that they close schools on my religious holidays.
Of course, I'm ignorant. I mean how would you explain me not nodding in agreement with every bit of your "logic". Also, that message of tolerance you're sending me? Maybe you should try sending it to your brethren.
Your true colors came out really fast!!!! Allow me to help you clear up your brain fog. You are repeating fux news and its pretty clear, without understanding the issue. You and I can have disagreement, that's fine. But you should at least read up on reality before posting expert opinion.
1) First bold line...."My Poeple". WTF do you even know about me? My hate for people who kill or threaten other, whether its Al-Qaeda or KKK is the same. What's up with the "my people" logic? Before you called me a liberal, now its my people...I think the "R" word applies here with fux news logic everywhere written on your post. BUT, I really want a productive discussion with you so I am going to ignore the personal stuff you wrote. Let's talk facts.
2) I actually do my Honky Tonk, two steps and a beer about twice a weekend. But being in a country environment, doesn't have my brains shut to a point where I'd put my American values behind and would stat to hate against different races and religions. Specially the ones who are legally here, pay their share of taxes and are raising kids, whether they are Hindus, Muslims or Budhists, I don't really care. They are legally here and pay their dues. What their Hindu brethren do in India or in Muslims case, in the Middle East, is not related to people who are here. So putting a "terrorist" stamp on everyone is worst than calling a black guy like me the "N" word. So if the "N" word is considered racial, condescending and derogatory, so is calling others "terrorists" who really have nothing to do with fuckers from ISIS or Al-Qaeda.
In fact, 99% of migrants came from those troubled areas to the US, to get a better lifestyle and education for their kids. You obviously don't know a Muslim person so you can't understand how integrated they are or not. I do a lot of mission work, and in that process, I've met a few Muslims. So once you get to know someone a little closer, you'd understand that they are not a whole lot different than we are, or compared to others. So why harass an entire population just because they go to a different place of prayer?
Did you actually know that the Koran was almost an identical version of the First Testament??? Also, Allah isn't a new God or someone else, its the Arabic way of calling God. Like I said, I was raised in a Church based school all my life, but along the way, I learned these things and you start to see how biased our media is sounding day by day and its turning us into hate machines, which is against our American values.
3) About society integration. I agree with you. Anyone coming to another country should integrate. But, whether woven into a society or not, what gives anyone the right to go kill someone or harass others because someone from the similar faith is sitting 5000 miles away butchering that religion and has nothing to do with people who follow that religion here in the US?
The MESSAGE I am trying to convey to you is THAT, we the AMERICANS live in a much better society, a society that's tolerant of others and allows everyone to live here. Now the Middle East, as we we know it, is a Cluster Fuk. By getting people riled up like on Fux news you see every day, why are we bringing the Barberic culture that exist in the Middle East, to here in the US???
We are smarter and have a much better society. If people start to do shiit here, similar to what that they do in the Middle East, what's the difference between the most advanced and democratic system called America and a third world crappy place called Yemen or Iraq? If the above it too complex for you to understand, you should quit debating and getting personal, just go your merry way.
4) Following the law of the land......you mentioned Saudi Arabia and whatever other place and you'd follow the law, instead of collecting welfare. So RIGHT HERE, it shows your lack of command over this issue you are talking about. You have NO clue what you just wrote but its so big that it destroys the ENTIRE argument.
You used "collecting welfare" as an example and a fact...my question is, who are you addressing? If you are addressing Black community or Hispanic community, I can get that, and that won't fit here.
If you are addressing the Muslim community than you are sadly mistaken. Go research on this topic. Average Muslim family in the United States makes two to three times the income compared to the Average American family. What that means, is that Jews, Muslims (whatever geographical background they come from) and Asians have the highest per family income in the US. About 80% of them come within the top 20% earner in the US. What that also means is that these are your highest tax brackets and tax payers.....so no welfare is applicable. Which than means is that you don't really understand who and what you are trying to address as the facts are ALL mixed up.
The last paragraph tells you straight up that you are either confused or don't have the grasp on this issue.....so how about you ask me nicely and both of us debate objectively like two adults? I am sure I'll learn something from you and you'll learn something from me. But sounding so confident without having actual command over a topic makes you look bad and the entire discussion goes down the drain. Have a good rest of the day!
This story and its challenges are gaining on-line traction. At worst, it is made up for attention. At best, it is a case of a blend of misunderstanding of standard practices that conflicts with personal want, and embellishments by Ms. Ahmad.
A can of soda probably cost Shuttle America, which contracts with United Airlines, about 25 cents, so it makes no PR sense to make hay out of a passenger's request for an unopened can. Out of a hundred passengers, maybe %1 would ask for an unopened can of free soda, so just give it to him/her and be done with this passenger.
I agree with you all the way. What the airline personnel didn't need to say in an open cabin, was that "she won't give that to her so she won't use it as a weapon". This isn't a PR thing and this isn't a publication stunt. The women in question has been to White House dinners multiple times so she doesn't really need her name trashed online and offline, its common sense.
I've been to many inter-faith committees in a few different states. The problem that they are trying to identify is much bigger in nature. The problem is, we've started to behave differently against a group of people, which would eventually result in more violence and innocent will suffer. That's a dangerous game to play. I think the media and the seriously conservative leaders need to tone down the rhetoric a little.
You and I may understand the logic behind intense political, press attention hungry statements about American muslims coming out of Bachmann and the likes; but a bubba sitting in a small camp by a lake may not. He may take his leader's stand and words as real and act stupid on it, causing a mosque to be put on fire or a synagogue or a Temple to be burnt down. That is totally not necessary is what I am saying. So the leaders and the media need to do a better job at no creating public sensation for ratings and fuk up the entire "melting pot" if you will.
The world looks up to us as the icon for freedom and humanity. This kind of crap gives negativity to the goodwill of the American society.
