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Musharraf's political career launch speech (apology, promises and clean slate)

Wont it would have been better if he had launched the party from pakistan, rather from a foreign land.

What could have been the logic behind it ?
 
Wont it would have been better if he had launched the party from pakistan, rather from a foreign land.

What could have been the logic behind it ?
How about you launch a political party knowing that you have:

a) sizeable support from the people - nothing points to that
b) you can count on other political parties for support - he can't as yet, and it looks unlikely he'll achieve that
c) your legacy is a positive one - it wasn't for the last couple of years
d) you can count on the army for support - they seem to have moved on from the Musharraf years​

Launching in the UK or Pakistan is secondary, he needed to address the above in an objective manner. The fact he hasn't indicates he's been badly advised, or has a higher opinion of himself than others do (or both).
 
As part of his campaign, Musharraf has gathered the support of almost all of the PML factions (notably Q, Ejazul Haq and Pir Pagara)

So by surrounding himself with a religious extremist Ejaz ul Haq son of Zia ul Haq and one the biggest landlord in Pakistan Pir Pagara he is changing the directions of Pakistan:rofl::hitwall:.
 
As i said in my earlier comment in some other thread sometimes back. " HE WILL ONLY COME TO POWER, THROUGH THE BACK DOOR OF GHQ, NO WAY THROUGH ELECTIONS". THROUGH INTERIM SETUP SUPPORTED BY ARMY, THATS THE ONLY WAY.

AND HE WILL NEED ENTIRE BRIGADE TO PROTECT HIM DURING ELECTIONEERING.

I CANT WAIT TO SEE HIM BACK.
 
So by surrounding himself with a religious extremist Ejaz ul Haq son of Zia ul Haq and one the biggest landlord in Pakistan Pir Pagara he is changing the directions of Pakistan:rofl::hitwall:.

And those two are just the tip of an iceberg. Consider the Chaudries of Gujrat to the mix. The elder one of them actually was publicly sympathetic to the terrorists of Lal Masjid even being part of the same government which launched the action against Lal Masjid.

This is sad. I know Musharraf is a genuinely liberal person. I know that he knows the shady characters he surrounded himself with. But he was left high and dry in his last two years by these characters. Musharraf was bitter about that. Only MQM stood by Musharraf. MQM probably ensured Musharraf's graceful exit by being part of the PPP govt.

As @DGMO says above, there is very little chance of Musharraf succeeding. If you think Benazir Bhutto was a juicy target in 2007 then Musharraf is probably ten times juicier than her!

Still..as someone says above, only GHQ can ensure Musharraf winning in future 'elections' but even then judiciary will HAVE to be neutralized first. Possible but very difficult.

So...what are we going to do? I see only two routes: Musharraf coming back to power via GHQ route and cleans up the mess which he should have done in 1999. That will be a lot of bloodshed: Politicians, Judiciary, Media. A 3rd world bloody coup.

The second route is everyone takes part in elections. As I see it, Nawaz Sharif will win that and become the next PM of Pakistan. APML of Musharraf dividing enough anti-PPP votes to give PPP the second place in power pole except in Sindh where PPP will win.
 
It’s the time to disco
Aamer Ahmed Khan

The most astonishing statement made by Pervez Musharraf at the launch of his political party in London this weekend was that he would like to start his political career with a clean slate. Although he was never known for his intellectual prowess, how naive is that?

Perhaps it is the good fortune of being able to start his politics from the safety and security of a city like London that has made Musharraf feel that he can start with a clean state. Like all megacities around the world, London opens its arms to everyone, be it an asylum seeker, an unskilled worker or a mafia don. And it doesn’t ask you the questions that a no-frills place like Pakistan can.

Who is here in London to ask Musharraf what happened in Kargil and who would have been responsible if his dangerous misadventure had brought two nuclear armed nations to war? Here, he can say ‘Pakistan First’, without having to account for the 600 or so poor paramilitary troops that were abandoned on the freezing heights of Kargil, once the world woke up to the sheer insanity of his madcap scheme.

In London, in a society known for its love for rule of law, where the middle class voluntarily pays taxes not because it has to but because it is expected to, it is easy to talk about the need for rule of law. Pakistan is too distant a land for people here to remember, or to care, that the person wishing ‘rule of law’ for Pakistan was guilty of high treason not once but twice.

It makes sense if you talk about political accommodation in London, where a traditionally bipolar polity is experiencing its first extended flirtations with coalition rule. It will probably not even occur to most people here that a ruler can use the country’s air force to execute a dissident politician and in the process alienate a province that constitutes over 40 per cent of the country’s territory.

It is convenient to talk about battling extremism because very few people here are likely to remember that the person championing moderation admitted dangerous criminals riding a neighbouring country’s hijacked aircraft into his country and then let them flourish.

It pays to talk about women emancipation because there are few who remember the callous disdain behind the remark that Pakistani women are not disinclined to the idea of getting raped to get a Canadian visa. The judiciary never gets sacked here simply because it doesn’t agree with the head of the state. The media never gets gagged because it is too critical of the man
in charge.

Few here are aware of how sullied Musharraf’s slate is, so it is easy to talk about starting with a clean one. But still reeling from the after-effects of nine incredibly long years of misrule, Pakistan is unlikely to let a mere two years of self-imposed
exile wash away the memories of what it endured under one of the most reckless dictators in its troubled history.

Musharraf should consider himself lucky that he cannot go back to Pakistan. London is a great place to party.

Published in The Express Tribune, October 3rd, 2010

It?s the time to disco – The Express Tribune
 
Musharraf to Pakistanis: Mujhey maaf kerdo.

Pakistani to Musharraf: aap bhi to maaf kerdo hamein sir
 
Pakistan's Musharraf: In Search of a Political Comeback?
By Omar Waraich / Islamabad Friday, Oct. 01, 2010

It was a study in contrasts. Pervez Musharraf entered politics as a powerful army chief in 1999 who seized power in a bloodless coup, basically from 30,000 feet in the air as a civilian leader tried to thwart his return to the country. On Friday, the former military chief sought to make a second entry into Pakistan's rough-and-tumble political scene — but this time he was reduced to having to do so from thousands of miles away in London, to just scores of supporters, and with none of the generals and politicians he once led by his side.

The political launch opened with a rare display of humility that had eluded him during his nearly nine years in power. "I take this opportunity to sincerely apologize to the whole nation for those wrong decisions," Musharraf told his supporters, though he did not specify what those mistakes were. Then, within moments, he returned to the brusque tones that Pakistanis are better acquainted with. There was a need, he said, to "bring all patriotic people under one flag, that flag should be the All Pakistan Muslim League" — his newly founded political party, one he formed after his erstwhile supporters abandoned him.

Musharraf boasted that he remains popular back at home — an assertion many Pakistanis would dispute, though the general will proudly counter any skepticism by pointing to the 200,000 followers he has accumulated on Facebook. Musharraf said that he would be returning to Pakistan at an undecided date — echoing the old bravado with which he used to claim that he would never leave. If he ever does he return, however, he is likely to be confronted by a formidable array of opponents, all nursing bitter memories of his military rule.

Indeed, it is unlikely that Musharraf will abandon the comforts of exile in London any time soon. "I think Musharraf will remain away from Pakistan for many years," says a senior Western diplomat. Crucially, Musharraf no longer has the backing of the powerful army he once led. "There's one thing to be army chief in Pakistan, and completely another to enter politics as an ex-general," says former cricket legend turned politician Imran Khan, speaking in Islamabad. "Gen. Musharraf will notice that difference if he ever does return." The army doesn't appear keen on his return either. According to Talat Hussain, a senior Pakistani journalist who is considered familiar with the current army leadership's thinking, "The current military leadership, which has improved its image, is making every effort to distance themselves from Musharraf's legacy."

The politicians who once loyally formed his cabinet sound similarly allergic. "He has no political base here," says Aftab Sherpao, who served as interior minister under Musharraf from 2004-to 2007. "He won't be able to move around because of security risks." Undimmed threats from a range of Islamist militants will certainly prevent Musharraf from leading political rallies. "And even the program that he's offering is what he said he'd do while in power," adds Sherpao, with a sharp note of exasperation. "He failed then, he has no chance now."

Some of Musharraf's traditional opponents express bewilderment at the former military ruler's attempt to cast himself as a new man beginning a new political life. "He's like a whore, who having reached old age, and wanting to get married, is declaring himself a virgin," says Khwaja Muhammad Asif, a leading parliamentarian from the opposition party of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (who was the man who tried to keep Musharraf's plane from landing back in 1999). "It's ridiculous. This guy was both in uniform and politics for nearly nine years. He's deceiving nobody but himself."

Others are more restrained, and merely amused by the attempted political relaunch. "There was a time when I used to feel angry at the mere mention of Musharraf, after he had disposed the chief justice and suspended the constitution," says Aitzaz Ahsan, leader of the so-called lawyers' movement that shook Musharraf's regime in 2007. "Now I can only laugh. He is no Don Quixote. He's a mere Sancho Panza riding at the windmills. His party launch was the biggest non-event of the decade."

Pakistan's excitable news channels appeared to treat it as such. Instead of lavishing serious attention, one channel played a montage showing Musharraf's taste for the high life. In one scene, he was on the stage, dancing with Pakistani film stars. In another, he went toe-to-toe with a classical singer, echoing his rendition of an Urdu song. The images then returned to the relatively chastened figure of Musharraf in exile. Other channels merely showed interviews with unforgiving enemies, from former judges to nationalists from Pakistan's far western province of Baluchistan.

None of which is to say that there aren't a few Pakistanis who are yearning for Musharraf's return home. It's just that they do so for reasons very different from the ones he laid out at his press conference in London. In Baluchistan, the nationalists hope to see Musharraf tried for the assassination of Akbar Bugti, the tribal leader, whose death in 2006 set the province ablaze in protest. In the southern province of Sindh, supporters of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto hope he will be questioned about his alleged failure to provide her with adequate security, as a U.N. Commission report detailed. In Punjab, Sharif is keen to see Musharraf tried for "high treason" for mounting the 1999 coup that overthrew him and the imposition of a state of emergency in November 2007. As some wry observers put it, with Musharraf "wanted" so much this way, the ex-dictator could prove to be a source of much-needed cohesion in a politically fractious country.

Read more: Pakistan's Musharraf: In Search of a Political Comeback? - TIME
 
Mush has done more good than harm , he was a good man for some for others vice versa .. but the guy really need to change his stance on army interference in pk politics .. he should go to school learn basic principiles of democracy least to start with .. its not going to be easy ride for mush , he will be joining as a recruit even that is doubted as he isnt a wadera nor have a constituency , i want to see faces like him in our politics atleast he is better than rana sana ullah alikes
 
Appology for the (mis)deeds ! What an eye wah General Sahab!

Guys ...

He "promises" not to repeat mistakes! This time plunder and submission of GoP, to uncle SAM would be very much smooth and under total control of NATO!

900 Chuhay Khaa Kay Billi Chali Haj Ko

Fighter
 
I would prefer that there would be Shariah law.

Or even partially is good.

What kind of Shariah you want? As it stands, the country's constitution is already shariah compliant by definition - no laws can be made repugnant to Islam article. If you are looking for the Saudi or Iranian model, let me tell you, the country will crash in an epic disaster with first turbulence shaking things up, then engines sputtering out one by one, followed by a tailspin to death. We are neither rich nor have the oil resources to withstand such a mad decision. The world will abandon us as just another lunatic state.
 
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What kind of Shariah you want? As it stands, the country's constitution is already shariah compliant by definition - no laws can be made repugnant to Islam article. If you are looking for the Saudi or Iranian model, let me tell you, the country will crash in an epic disaster with first turbulence shaking things up, then engines failing, followed by a tailspin to death. We are neither rich nor have the oil resources to withstand such a decision. The world will abandon us as just another lunatic state.

Don't be so much fearful of world! You may end up with an upset stomach.

First Pakistan is to have a fully functional democratic setup for atleast next 25 years. It must also concentrate on developing a healthy economy during this period.

Shariah Law is for politically mature and advanced democracies. We saw the consequences of Sharia with Afghanis or House of Saud's! Disaster of one (Taliban style) or the other kind( Aristocracy in a most important muslim country with total political supression). IRAN is also looking to follow the suit.

Pakistan has to develop on these two fronts before a Sharia Law implementation or even discussion on the topic is started. A lot of damage is already done to Pakistan in last 15-20 years. It will take a whole generaion of effort to undo the effects!

Fighter
 
I've been saying this for a while, and now one of the biggest hurdles to Musharraf's success in Pakistan is obvious:


All PMLs see no role for Musharraf in Pak politics

Sunday October 03, 2010 (1341 PST)

LAHORE: All factions of the PML, including PML-N, and some close cronies of former president Pervez Musharraf do not see any role of the ex-general in the future politics of Pakistan and believe that he will not return to the country after finishing his self exile in the UK.

The PML-N, PML-Q, PML-F, PML (likeminded group), PML-Zia and Awami Muslim League claim that Musharraf should return to Pakistan and face court trail if he is serious in doing politics. Talking to our sources, Saleem Saif Ullah, President PML (likeminded group), stated that Musharraf should face criminal and civilian cases pending against him in the courts and defend himself before entering the active politics in Pakistan. He should also defend himself against a murder charge, he added.

Shaikh Rasheed, Chairman Awami Muslim League, claimed that Musharraf had entered the Pakistani politics at the right time after the abolition of ban on him. He claimed that he could not make statement about the return of Musharraf in Pakistan, saying that some of his cronies had forbidden him from launching a party.

Former federal minister and MNA Jehangir Tareen from PML-F said that their party president Pir Pigara had invited Musharraf to join the alliance of PML but he had launched his own party. He claimed that they had not supported Musharraf in launching a new party, APML. He was of the view that it would be very difficult for Musharraf to return to Pakistan and join active politics.

Ijaz-ul-Haq, President PML-Zia, said that it was a democratic right of everyone to form a political party. He said Musharraf was very excited about forming a party but he should have done it after returning to the country. He said Musharraf had contacted everyone except him but no political bigwig had joined him during his announcement of a new party.

Hamayun Akhtar, Secretary General (PML-likeminded), stated that they had advised Musharraf not launch his party but he had not paid heed to their words. He stated that the APML would only consider taking Musharraf in their alliance if he returned to Pakistan and made a request to join them.

Senator Pervaiz Rashid from PML-N said that Pervez Musharraf had started his politics with deception and he would always be known as a fraud in the political history of the country. Commenting on the announcement of political party by Pervez Musharraf,

Ch Moonis Elahi from the PML-Q said he did not see any role of Musharraf in the future politics of Pakistan.

Pak Tribune

So there you have an indication of the whole APML finished before it's off the ground. There is no appetite within the ML ranks to have him in politics. And if the likes of Humayun Akhtar (who has been seen as pro-Musharraf), is distancing himself (along with many others), then he really is isolated.

Combine that with the alliance of the PPP and PML-N to ensure he suffers through the courts, or in the political theatre, the absence of army support - too many factors point to it being really bleak for Musharraf.
 

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