Musharraf's political career launch speech (apology, promises and clean slate)

[Myth_buster_1]

The typical mullah approach that after getting familiar with few aayahs and ahadiths, they start considering rest of the world non sense and stupid.

Typical ignorant approach. I have more knowledge then 10 ignorant like you about my religion. The only knowlege you have is on labeling Muslim "mullah this mullah that" who speaks for his religion.

What have you preached about Islam here? The person who just flared up by few posts talking about Islam? Keep your that Islam with you i dont need to learn that which have no tolerance.

My point here is not to preach islam to ignorants like you who cant miss a opportunity to slander Islam.

I dont need to show you any proof that Islam is a personal thing as to me if i do not follow then i am myself responsible neither my father nor my son will be asked for that.

You do not even have any proof other then your own unIslamic theories.

Lolz. Which shariah do you want here in Pakistan? Saudi / salafi / shia / barevli / naqshbandi / deobandi / etc etc till 72 varities are here.

This nation is not ready for such a change however what needs to be done is aware Muslims to have a good intention for Shariah so allah can forgive us all. This nation has betrayed Islam by using it for its agendas and then disposing when no longer required.

Honestly i saw the above for the first time when u posted that here. I simply dont care whether he has plans to implement the sharia or not, but he was against the extremism and will end that. Dont ask me how, as lal masjid is not too old and is fresh in memories.
I am not getting fooled from his manifesto, i like and support him for obvious reasons.

You cant even stick to the point and you jump to next one like a ignorant! My point was to show what a Pathological lair Mush is who says "quran is his guidance" where as it is not! What you are doing is "hero worshiping" and you are too blind to see the reality.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

let them bring religion in every dirty political matter we are in deep mess because of conflict between religion and politics .mullahs think they can lead corrupt looters think they can lead sportsmen think they can rule solders think they can rule .and every one is doing his own way to lead us .sad we dont have even same like jinnah 25% mind real single politician

Mr, If it was not for Islam, Pakistan would not have even come into being.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

We all know what the Quran says about criminals.

Do let us also know of what Quran and Hadis say about leaders who do not rule according to what allah has raveled.

 

[Imran Khan]

Mr, If it was not for Islam, Pakistan would not have even come into being.

some body said that ? islam is religion of 98% of pakistanis and its not in danger in pakistan but muslims are in danger from muslims here.islam was not an issue ever in pakistan few millahs and generals make is great issue and now face TTP

 

[Myth_buster_1]

They are using innocent people as human shields! they should be dealt with. Pakistani law is not only for those in the urban areas but also for tribal areas.

Force was only used as a last resort and the only option they fear. Further more, no innocent was ever given to any country only criminals of foreign origin were when their own countries rejected them.



Oh please... They were criminals!

They kidnapped a few people, burned government buildings and tried to impose their version (man made) of "Shariah" in the capital.

Even after that the government allowed those burqa clad criminals to leave the area and amnesty for those who did. They had all kinds of things in there we all saw it on TV.

I have no sympathy for criminals.

Your posts are full of BS. We are talking about Quran and Hadis and you are referring to it as taliban. what an ignorant fool.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

some body said that ? islam is religion of 98% of pakistanis and its not in danger in pakistan but muslims are in danger from muslims here.islam was not an issue ever in pakistan few millahs and generals make is great issue and now face TTP

TTP is not part of Islam so Muslims do not face any danger from Islam and the only danger they face are the problems they have created on their own! DO you get that?

 

[z9-ec]

Typical ignorant approach. I have more knowledge then 10 ignorant like you about my religion. The only knowlege you have is on labeling Muslim "mullah this mullah that" who speaks for his religion.

My point here is not to preach islam to ignorants like you who cant miss a opportunity to slander Islam.

You do not even have any proof other then your own unIslamic theories.

This nation is not ready for such a change however what needs to be done is aware Muslims to have a good intention for Shariah so allah can forgive us all. This nation has betrayed Islam by using it for its agendas and then disposing when no longer required.
You cant even stick to the point and you jump to next one like a ignorant! My point was to show what a Pathological lair Mush is who says "quran is his guidance" where as it is not! What you are doing is "hero worshiping" and you are too blind to see the reality.

You know in this entire post all you have mentioned is your divine knowledge is far superior and we're all crazy.

Come up with constructive arguments.

Your posts are full of BS. We are talking about Quran and Hadis and you are referring to it as taliban. what an ignorant fool.

Not even worthy of a reply.

 

[S.M.R]

Ohhh what can I say ..........
If I dont give the references of the Hadiths in my post you may end saying Mohammad (S.a.w.w) A Mullah. (Nauzibillah)
If preaching islam is Mullah ism then all the muslims have to be mullah.
becasue Qura'an Says

"O you who believe! Enter in Islam completely." (2:208)



The Rules which were implemented By Mohammad (S.A.W.W). We have Quraan and hadith.

Read all the posts from the post where he gave fatwa that Mush is not to blessed by Allah as he did nothing for Islam. Selective reading is bad for health.... mental health.

 

[S.M.R]

Typical ignorant approach. I have more knowledge then 10 ignorant like you about my religion. The only knowlege you have is on labeling Muslim "mullah this mullah that" who speaks for his religion.

My point here is not to preach islam to ignorants like you who cant miss a opportunity to slander Islam.

You do not even have any proof other then your own unIslamic theories.

If you have got the good knowledge of Islam, it is good for you, you will get what Allah has promised for that. aameen.

I do not label 'Mullah' anyone who preaches Islam, Mullah are those who use Ahadiths to achieve their own goals.

If I say that my father / my son or anyone else will not be asked or held responsible for what I have not done or not followed the Islam, is it Un-Islamic? and you want me to give proofs for the same? Whatever I do / not do, is purely my personal thing, as I ll be alone in my grave. In the same lines I will not be asked for any wrongdoings of others, bcaz that is their 'personal' matter.

This nation is not ready for such a change however what needs to be done is aware Muslims to have a good intention for Shariah so allah can forgive us all. This nation has betrayed Islam by using it for its agendas and then disposing when no longer required.

Once someone asked Rasool (S.A.W) that what is 'Deen e Islam'? he replied 'Ebadat e Khaliq and Khidmat e Makhlooq'. Is that hard to understand the simple definition of Islam? rather we should keep following the mullahs blindly who use Quran / Ahadiths as their business? Just keep the Islam (the religion) separate from Muslims (its followers) thing will get a bit clear to you.

You cant even stick to the point and you jump to next one like a ignorant! My point was to show what a Pathological lair Mush is who says "quran is his guidance" where as it is not! What you are doing is "hero worshiping" and you are too blind to see the reality.

He might have not completely followed the guidance of Quran. and your conclusion is just based on 'one thing' and ignoring what he had done for Pakistan. We are not going to make him 'ameer ul momineen' or leader of Islam rather we want him the leader of Pakistan. Thats it.

 

[S.M.R]

Mr, If it was not for Islam, Pakistan would not have even come into being.

That is a long and separate debate.... It will derail the thread.. Now can we please keep the religion out of this thread?

 

[S.M.R]

Happy Birthday Musharraf Sir....


Sub say pehlay
Musharraf says ‘love, trust and support’ made him decide to contest in elections

LAHORE: All Pakistan Muslim League (APML) President Pervez Musharraf, in his birthday message, said that the support, love and trust of people living abroad and in Pakistan have compelled him to take part in the next polls. He addressed a function arranged on Thursday to celebrate his birthday through a recorded video message. Musharraf said that he had been in UK and USA where many Pakistanis supported him and asked him to go back to Pakistan and serve the nation again. He said that this had made him decide to contest the next elections. He said that he would convert the dispersed support into a collective entity, which would definitely make Pakistan turn the corner and put it on the road to development. He said that he was sure, after ruling the country for eight years, that Pakistanis were very talented and capable of making a difference. He said that he would do anything for the prosperity of Pakistan. He also asked minorities to join hands with him for Pakistan’s betterment. staff report

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

 

[laiqs@mi]

Not even worthy of a reply.

you dont have the reply ..........
as Myth buster said Islam and T.T.P or any other xyz is two different things.
what t.t.p is doing is not islam.
Islam is not what muslims do . islam is what muslims have and has to do.
we can change a muslim but we cant change islam according to our will .....
there is not liberal or roshan khayal islam . it must be followed like it was followed 1400 years ago . and if one get out of the limits he is answerable to ALLAH.
just last comment.

 

[z9-ec]

APML Dubai on Pakistan Independence Day.

 

[Dance]

Musharraf seeks another chance​

Dubai: Former President of Pakistan General (retd) Pervez Musharraf has said that his slogan for the next general elections will be ‘Peace, Employment, Education and Justice'.

"Pakistan is in acute danger these days and there is need to focus on these four main issues to save the country," he said while addressing a function in Dubai on Sunday organised by his All Pakistan Muslim League (APML) to celebrate Pakistan Independence Day.

He said the political anarchy, economic downturn, poverty, unemployment, soaring prices of commodities, shortage of power, deteriorating law and order situation, corruption, nepotism and black market have thrown the country in to deep crises.

He noted that Pakistan has been isolated internationally with no respect due to its corrupt rulers."

Musharraf urged the Pakistani people to play their role to change the political status quo in the country and vote out the current rulers. "Give me another chance and I promise with you to bring about positive change in Pakistan and save the country," he said while raising his fist in the air — his trade mark action when he delivers an emotional speech.

"If I succeed, I will hand over the country to the youth — the future of Pakistan," he said.

Turnout

Musharraf's who was clad in green shalwar kameez (traditional national dress) and a white coat, was greeted with slogans by more than 1,500 people at Al Maktoum Hall of the Convention Centre at the World Trade Centre in Dubai.
He was accompanied by his wife Sahba Pervez who was also wearing green and white dress to complement Independence Day. Musharraf has already announced to go back to Pakistan on March 23 to pitch his party as an alternate political force for the next elections in 2013.

"Political status-quo will change only if we change the political culture in Pakistan and bring APML as alternate political power in Pakistan," he said.
Musharraf is banking on the youth vote bank and those who have never voted in Pakistan elections. "I want you to come forward and vote for a positive change in your country," he asserted.
Recollection

Musharraf also recollected his train journey from India to Pakistan at the time of Independence in 1947 and reminded people about the hardships and sacrifices their forefathers had to face to get a separate country for them.

"We would have no recognition in the world but for Pakistan," he said in his heavy assertive tone — typical of an army general.
He noted that sectarianism, ethnic violence and provincialism are the order of the day in Pakistan while mosques and madrassas are being used for extremism.

Akbar Ali Shah, a Dubai based active member of APML representing the young supporters, urged the youth in Pakistan to be responsible and cast their votes in the next elections to elect Musharraf.

He said 90 per cent of the APML members are those who are have never participated in a political process in the past.
Shah informed the audience that APML is fast expanding across Pakistan and Europe as well and its members are growing very rapidly. Musharraf's Dubai-based supporters Colonel Sher Ali, Mohammad Khurram and Malek Nouraid Awan were also present at the occasion among others.


gulfnews : Musharraf seeks another chance

 

[S.M.R]

^^ wow 1500 attendents in dubai.

People believe that Mush is the last hope for Pakistan. Inshallah he will make Pakistan as proper as it was in his era.