Maldives President's visit to Pakistan: Why India must remain cautious

[axisofevil]

AFAIK Maldives has 100% Muslim Citizens because their Citizenship Criteria demands such a thing so it comes in definition of Muslim Country while India is still deciding its Hindu or Secular Country.

Wrong. Look at Turkey! India is not a Hindu Country. Its is a democracy with one of the largest populations of Muslims in the world. It holds powerful sway on Islam and Muslims. India is going to start ushing its weight when it comes to issues delaing with Muslims and Islam. No more listening to the others...



I think India should begin look into using it Muslim population to make radical policy changes for all Muslims to follow. Its time for Indian muslims to become a leader is Islamic issues.

 

[Tshering22]

I'm telling you guys, This Gayoom guy is not good for India. We must get Nasheed back on chair.

There are other options on the table too. Politics is not anyone's backyard to remain in their grip permanently.

Maldives' biggest problem is their social structure. They are impossibly radical and close minded people. That wasn't so until 2 decades back. However, the increased arabization in their mindset means that they are becoming a big problem for us in the neighbourhood.

We should look for alternates and deal with the current problem. Yameen is okay, but only for now. Anything more and we won't be comfortable.

 

[axisofevil]

There are other options on the table too. Politics is not anyone's backyard to remain in their grip permanently.

Maldives' biggest problem is their social structure. They are impossibly radical and close minded people. That wasn't so until 2 decades back. However, the increased arabization in their mindset means that they are becoming a big problem for us in the neighbourhood.

We should look for alternates and deal with the current problem. Yameen is okay, but only for now. Anything more and we won't be comfortable.

What I dont understand is wasn't this Gayoom friendly to India yrs ago?

 

[Assange]

Maldives has always been a close partner with India...

Most Maldivans are Indian origin and even recently India helped Maldives when they had shortage of drinking water...and let us not forget it was Indian forces that liberated Maldvies from LTTE's aggression....Operation Cactus I guess the name for that operation....

So nothing is going to change in Maldives stance for now....

 

[Gazi]

Wrong. Look at Turkey! India is not a Hindu Country. Its is a democracy with one of the largest populations of Muslims in the world. It holds powerful sway on Islam and Muslims. India is going to start ushing its weight when it comes to issues delaing with Muslims and Islam. No more listening to the others...

Best of luck with that but before that Pakistan would be your First Test and I dont think you can pass through Pakistan that easily to set foot on Muslim world and try your luck on Ushing weights. You must be another Believer of All Powerful India but the reality is even after Exaggeration Indians cant get any closer to Aggressive Foreign Policy and still would remain Soft Power.

I think India should begin look into using it Muslim population to make radical policy changes for all Muslims to follow. Its time for Indian muslims to become a leader is Islamic issues.

If you think Muslim World is dependent on Indian Muslims then why not. With current Modi Govt. you cant push for it but lets hope for the best for Future.

No. It will not happen
Why ?

1. Nepal and Bhutan will always be with India
2. Bangladesh has friendly party in government and right now they are removing khalida jiya from the political ground with full Indian support(support is not open)
3. Pakistan is busy in Zarb-ai-azb and with many other internal problem, economy is down like hell and most importantly Pakistan do not have any strategic ground or influence out of Afganistan in the world.
So after all it will be day dreaming for Pakistan government to engage India in open sea and only Maldive will face theside effect .

1. Nepal is no Friend of India and has Better Relations with China due to India using Nepal Transit Facility. Bhutan may be India's Friend though.
2. Bangladesh has large number of anti India sentiment in the Country already if gone further then it has Danger of Eruption and take Awami League with it.
3. Pakistan is restarting its Strategic Influence exercise in Afghanistan and India is all out of picture now a days in Afghanistan and Potential to be Replaced by China and Pakistan has start working on its Economy and Zarb-e-Azb is part of that.
For years Maldive is living under Indian Influence and they got nothing from it so as Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka as well so once Chinese started entering the region they started to Drift away from India and more likely to join Chinese Strategic Umbrella instead of India and that is Good for Pakistan.

 

[manishmaithani]

1. Nepal is no Friend of India and has Better Relations with China due to India using Nepal Transit Facility. Bhutan may be India's Friend though.
2. Bangladesh has large number of anti India sentiment in the Country already if gone further then it has Danger of Eruption and take Awami League with it.
3. Pakistan is restarting its Strategic Influence exercise in Afghanistan and India is all out of picture now a days in Afghanistan and Potential to be Replaced by China and Pakistan has start working on its Economy and Zarb-e-Azb is part of that.
For years Maldive is living under Indian Influence and they got nothing from it so as Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka as well so once Chinese started entering the region they started to Drift away from India and more likely to join Chinese Strategic Umbrella instead of India and that is Good for Pakistan.

1. Are you sure Nepal is not friend of India ? . Better keep your facts clear and please do not do Emotional Atyachar. fyi find below link..
1950 Indo-Nepal Treaty of Peace and Friendship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When you reply please mention facts and reality.
2. Yes you are right but again they cant hold India when managing Maldive.
Please stick to the topic

3. Pakistan will have a great influence in Afghanistan forever and no doubt on it. When we talk about influence in country matter then it always there, sometime less and some time much and this is the same in case of Any country. India will be there always.

Now look the broad picture of Sino-Indian role in subcontinent where Pakistan never had any influence out of Afganistan(mostly Pushtun belt) and just behaving as a sponsor of China , you can look over last SAARC summit for an example.

 

[Gazi]

1. Are you sure Nepal is not friend of India ? . Better keep your facts clear and please do not do Emotional Atyachar. fyi find below link..
1950 Indo-Nepal Treaty of Peace and Friendship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When you reply please mention facts and reality.
2. Yes you are right but again they cant hold India when managing Maldive.
Please stick to the topic

3. Pakistan will have a great influence in Afghanistan forever and no doubt on it. When we talk about influence in country matter then it always there, sometime less and some time much and this is the same in case of Any country. India will be there always.

Now look the broad picture of Sino-Indian role in subcontinent where Pakistan never had any influence out of Afganistan(mostly Pushtun belt) and just behaving as a sponsor of China , you can look over last SAARC summit for an example.

1. That Peace Treaty was signed between Nepali Monarchy which gone and India right now their is a huge influence of Maoists in Nepal and Chinese are investing Heavily and even Arming them with Weapons.
Caught in the India-China Rivalry: Policy Options for Nepal (IPCS Issue brief#249, March 2014)

2. Chinese cant Hold India alone but they can make up for it by bringing Whole Indian Neighborhood on their side which Includes Maldives as well.

3. Pakistan Influence in Afghanistan is not only due to Large Pashtun but also their Common Goals with Non Pashtuns as well so the capability of dealing with all side is something that helps Pakistan. Bringing China to SAARC is not a bad Idea when we look how much Chinese Interest is present within South Asian Region. India have always been Biggest SAARC Member and South Asian Countries doesnt witness much Progress for very long time. At least by involving China SAARC member Nations are witnessing Progress and its only India that is worried about Constructive Role that China is trying to Play in South Asia.

 

[manishmaithani]

1. That Peace Treaty was signed between Nepali Monarchy which gone and India right now their is a huge influence of Maoists in Nepal and Chinese are investing Heavily and even Arming them with Weapons.
Caught in the India-China Rivalry: Policy Options for Nepal (IPCS Issue brief#249, March 2014)

2. Chinese cant Hold India alone but they can make up for it by bringing Whole Indian Neighborhood on their side which Includes Maldives as well.

3. Pakistan Influence in Afghanistan is not only due to Large Pashtun but also their Common Goals with Non Pashtuns as well so the capability of dealing with all side is something that helps Pakistan. Bringing China to SAARC is not a bad Idea when we look how much Chinese Interest is present within South Asian Region. India have always been Biggest SAARC Member and South Asian Countries doesnt witness much Progress for very long time. At least by involving China SAARC member Nations are witnessing Progress and its only India that is worried about Constructive Role that China is trying to Play in South Asia.

1. For your first point as i already said influence can be less or much time to time when we talk about country matter and so on with India. Lets see the Pak-Afgan for an example where for at least for one decade Pakistan seems to be an enemy for Afgan people but later on slowly-2 situation coming under control and it highly depends on Pak gov policies.
Again even in the time of Maoist government, India was there top priority and Nepal has right to make good relationship with any country whether its China or Pakistan. Keep in mind China is not India enemy so does Pakistan as per Govt of India policies.

2. Give me an example where China contributed in Saarc as an observer. I know they want to come into this picture where Pakistan is openly endorsing China instead itself, quite laughable and its not a rocket science that other member of Saarc country dont know about this Pakistani game. So they will play their game, like Bangladesh who is now days raiding Pakistani national on its soil.

3. One more point for you, as per the Indo-Nepal treaty both country Army General will have same position in both country. I mean Nepalese general can behave like Indian General and same with Indian general.
Sorry i don't know technical terms on this matter and Bhutan has some border dispute with China.

Conclusion is that Pakistan never had and will never have in future also any weight-age by its own to contain India In Saarc Countries and i can give you many facts on this but yeah can contain India only if China will be there but Its not going to be succeed in near future, you have seen last Saarc summit where Pak was not agreed on Saarc nation agreement instead endorsing China for full membership.
I am asking you personal question that yaar that why Pakistan dont have good politician. India may be dont have great politician but they are far better than Pakistani politician when comes to National Interest or when comes to Strategic relationship.
Anyway its good for India

 

[rubyjackass]

Maldive could serve as a Backup for Chinese String of Pearls if Sri Lanka decided to Breakup from it. Its like all options on the Table for Chinese here.

Yameen is losing power soon. China/Pakistan is backing a losing side.

More youth are leaving to become ISIS terrorists. Foreign countries are issuing advisories to be careful in Maldives. India has to just sit quite and watch. When Maldivians realise where their leaders are taking them, things will change.

 

[Iggy]

Maldives understood the importance of India due to their recent water crisis..India was able to create a lot of positive atmosphere among Maldivians with their immediate support..Now all we needed is wait till Yameen to be kicked out of power.

 

[Gazi]

Yameen is losing power soon. China/Pakistan is backing a losing side.

More youth are leaving to become ISIS terrorists. Foreign countries are issuing advisories to be careful in Maldives. India has to just sit quite and watch. When Maldivians realise where their leaders are taking them, things will change.

Until he leaves Chinese would have enough people in Maldives Establishment to keep things in favor on whatever outcomes and as you have seen in Sri Lanka where Establishment is still Favorable towards China while Govt. is favoring India so neither Govt. is able to use their clout nor they have Strength to do that because Opposition and Establishment together with China.

 

[The Headache]

WTF? We protect these nutshells from a coup and then help them at the time when they needed help the most and they do this !!!

 

[Gazi]

WTF? We protect these nutshells from a coup and then help them at the time when they needed help the most and they do this !!!

And this is what I read from the Article...

China made some intense lobbying with the erstwhile dictator of Maldives Abdul Gayoom who ruled Maldives for three decades till Nasheed ousted him in 2008 in the country’s first democratic elections. The Chinese target was to acquire a naval base in Marao Island and there were reports of Gayoom nearly handing over the island to China in 2001 but apparently could not dare to do so as the United States got whiff of it and scuttled the move.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Any deal involving Pakistan is a blessing in disguise for India. Pakistan is heavily compromised by field agents. So secrets can't be kept in Pakistan. Time will tell.

LAWL

BE CAREFUL FOLKS OUR NUCLEAR INSTALLATIONS HAVE BEEN COMPROMISED

 

[Ragnar]

It is just super-paranoid rumour monger Rajeev Sharma.. An accomplished nutjob who once wrote this garbage:

Why Narendra Modi and Rahul Gandhi should visit Pakistan - Firstpost

No one cares about Maldives, unless China wants a naval base that will eventually sink. And in any cas the reefs around it are very dangerous for shipping. Maldives will just remain a tourist destination until it sinks. Honestly, I like Langkawi better.