Maharashtra: Beaten, forced to wave saffron,MUSLIM cop says his force let him down

[Bombermanx1]

Maybe I didn't explain myself well and I apologize for that...
Your argument was that why should India be the bastion of secularism, when our neighbor Pakistan has basically eliminated its minority population...
To that my response was, if we feel that strongly about how Pakistan treats its minorities, then we should take the task to Pakistan and make them pay..but then I ask..why is that our problem?
But how is mistreating a muslim cop, a citizen of India and a government employee (who is just doing his duty) justified just because Pak is say discriminating against their minority? How is that an even response? How is that an eye for an eye?
In my wife analogy, the wife is the minority..
Pakistan beats up his wife, the response should be to stop Pakistan, not beat your own wife as a justification that the neighbor does it, so why shouldnt i? Does not make the action right is what I was trying to say...



There are a number of cases out there...
Not on a state level (our constitution is too strong)...but on an individual level...yes.
Of course individual bias cannot be policed as easily...I get it. But we do have to set a different example as individuals and Indians is what Im saying.

In all honesty, I understand where you're coming from, but purely with regards to this particular incident, change the Muslim cop to a hindu cop and the perps to Muslim mob...please be honest...do you condone the actions of the mob?

Yes, WHY SHOULD WE BE SECULAR WHEN OTHERS AROUND US ARE NOT? Did we not pay the blood price with 7 million dead during Partition?
What is our problem? I dont have a problem! Ask your American and western friends why they have a problem with us?
You really going to believe? and bring up the analogy of the Pakistani wife? That itself shows you lost it! You are part of the Brigade. ANYONE WHO STOPS SHIVAJI MAHRAJ AND HIS FLAG BEING FLOWN,THEN SCREW THE RULES! This IS SHIVAJI Maharaj!

Dont ppl have better job than hoisting flags? Why cant they do some thing usefull like educating unprivileged children, tackle corruption...etc There are thousand ways to contribute to the society.

Let me say There a many kids who chant Mantras who happen to be Dalits and they do Havans, Gayatri Manta Homamns in Brahmins home.You don't know the things on ground do you?

Dont ppl have better job than hoisting flags? Why cant they do some thing usefull like educating unprivileged children, tackle corruption...etc There are thousand ways to contribute to the society.

The same was said against freedom from British! Why the hell did we fight for Society? Perhaps you Like British ruling you as the Masters!,WE DONT!

 

[MilSpec]

How long can you keep this facade up?
We are denied from even hoisting a simple flag and others are allowed to run amok,rioting across the city.
So tell me why should we even care?
It is what you say Jack asses in Malda,But will wash your hands off? it is folk like us who go there and do help in relief works for the affected Hindus.The Hindu Bengalis had it coming supporting the Communists and Mumtaz Begum.This is what happens.When you give Bangladeshis a Citizenship Card.

O bhai,
Police ko mat maro. I know Mapo very well, you have no clue the type of brotherhood it is. Even the mumbai underworld shuddered at the idea of taking it out on cops there was a good reason for it, if the mapo takes offense, center, constitution, politics sab gaya bhad mein, they will kick everyone's behinds.

And you are free to check my record of what I say here, I have never washed off my hands of anything. I did not know you are involved in relief work, my utmost respect for that. I don't think I can say more anything more at the topic, but will reiterate, khaki wardi pe haat mat uthao, bohot bhari padega.

 

[Bombermanx1]

What the F did you just accuse me of. Listen you pos, you can call such names to your father not to me. Two of my uncles died due to maoists, you prick. Next time do not fucking quote me .

Ahh.., the Australian Nobleman wants to give us a piece of his arse.So who are we to protest?Thats sad your Uncles die due to Maoists.So also do understand you Prick many of my family died defending Democracy so. STFU!

 

[Peshwa]

Yes, WHY SHOULD WE BE SECULAR WHEN OTHERS AROUND US ARE NOT? Did we not pay the blood price with 7 million dead during Partition?
What is our problem? I dont have a problem! Ask your American and western friends why they have a problem with us?
You really going to believe? and bring up the analogy of the Pakistani wife? That itself shows you lost it! You are part of the Brigade. ANYONE WHO STOPS SHIVAJI MAHRAJ AND HIS FLAG BEING FLOWN,THEN SCREW THE RULES! This IS SHIVAJI Maharaj!

Honestly, I don't know where this conversation is going and I don't think we will see eye to eye on this issue...
Nevertheless, you have reasons for your opinions, as do I..
Lets leave it at that..moving on..

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Those who touch police should'nt and will not go unpunished even in cases where the Police offers were in negative side.

But in this case, this officer was singled out. He was doing his duty.

I really wish to see an "encounter" soon for attacking an Cop.

 

[Endeavour]

I think some people dont understand one thing, that in maharashtra its not even open for discussion about celebrating shivaji jayati. We dont give anyone this authority to lecture about this event.

Although i might not agree to what happened to that cop, there may have been a different ways of dealing with that scum, but he crossed the fine line which he shouldn't had. Even his collegues in the police station knew that.

 

[jaunty]

It is a complete shame and utter break down of law and order. The right wing Hindu elements in India really think they have a free pass - it is high time they are brought down to earth.

But who will do that? These fanatics are feeling unbelievably confident since May 2014 and not without good reasons. Look at what a few lawyers from the ruling party did in the national capital, no less. Police just watched it and laughed. Can't really blame them, they only take orders.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

If those cops were trying to reduce communal tensions, why did they send a Muslim cop to take down the flag of Shiva?

That sounds more like an attempt to increase communal tensions. Who was the one who made the decision?

 

[raktaka]

Sorry, I disagree... If you want to put a flag somewhere, take due permission, follow the required process and do whatever, If a cop is being a dik, then complain to his superiors, you just cannot beat a cop and parade him around. Shivaji maharaj also stood for justice, and equality, don't ignore that part dear.

You are free do disagree, but we live in the real world.

In this real world the Muslim cops grew a beard IN-SPITE of Police Rules, take bribes in-spite of laws against it and there is social action against injustice.

Such theoretical view of life is good only in debates, not when your wife get molested by a guy in the street and you look for the nearest cop instead of defending your wife's honour.

This WAS JUSTICE and Equality dear, wearing a cop uniform does not make any one "just" or "equal". You have to ACT Just. That is the Litmus test.

What's Islamic about a beard?! Didnt Shivaji sport a beard, someone revered by the same attackers ?!

LOL..... as I have said I am not interested in playing games. EVERYBODY here knows what an Islamic Beard is and what it looks like. Its like saying what is "islamic" about a skull cap ...... after all even Scouts and Cowboys wear caps

Besides, the police authority allowed the beard(clearly) since he was posted there by the Police...why are you questioning this?

Yes the police did not take action against him, and we have seen where that ended up. Most rational people start questioning things after they seen violence. unlike you we do not live in a cocoon.

Secondly, take the beard and the pics out of the equation, take the muslim angle out as well...do you truly believe what these people did was right?!
A cop was doing his duty...thats about it!

If we take the beard and muslim angle out of it the Mob would not have reacted this way

I whole heartedly support the cop and hope the perps are brought to justice...

Ya allah, you do ? ........ big surprise.

How did you come to the conclusion that the cop was communal? Can you get into that?
Sporting a beard does not make one communal..
I sport a beard...Im non religious...your beard argument is standing on weak ground.

When a cop sports a Muslim Beard when his service rules specifically tell him NOT to so that his religion is not showcased then it is a clear case of Communal action.

Are you a cop you moron ? if you are not then you have no argument

LOL - you do realize you need to mention the Nazis to invoke Godwin's law. Oh well - another little bit of education for you.

You are right about one thing - you aren't getting any certificates from me. Or from anyone else. LOL. Like ever. It is amusing that you can't distinguish between a civic nuisance - like urinating on the street and a lynch mob beating up a citizen. Hahahaha. You have access to the Internet. Look it up. It will be educational. P.S. You really need it.

LOL... Taliban is the new Nazi. Godwin's law is applicable when people like you start calling names when they loose an argument

Maybe if you learn to use rational thinking and remove that communal bias and prejudice you just might be able to see the whole truth. But I seriously doubt it.

Even internet cannot cure such Bigotry.

@raktaka
If you believe that hindus should be allowed to put up a flag as and when they choose, then Im sorry but we then have no moral right to object to any muslim from Kashmir to Kaniyakumari raising any flags at their point and place of choosing...
Whether it be the islamic flag or even the Pakistani flag...

I am not sure if you are Bigoted or just ignorant or pretending to be ignorant.

1. The Flag was not a "Hindu" Flag, it was SHIVAJI"S Flag. An Historic flag.

2. Muslims put up Flag all the time ........ I have never heard of Hindus objecting to green flags in India.

3. Pakistani Flag is a Political flag of an enemy state. Hoisting that is Treason under the law.

 

[Endeavour]

Btw those were no RSS people.
Those were locals who took offence at them being deprived of celebrating their hero.

 

[Soulspeek]

I condemn the mob beating of a policeman. It was clearly a communal mob action. I am also of the view that if the area was a sensitive one, they should not have posted on duty, a policeman who is brazenly displaying his muslim status by this mehandi coloured big beard and zero mustache. Aren't policemen directed by rules to not show their religion by way of dress code?

All the perpetrators of this shameful action need to be put behind bars. Police also dont deserve any sympathy because they allowed this policeman to show his muslim identity so brazenly even though its not allowed. TBH he looked more like a molvi than a policeman.

 

[raktaka]

If those cops were trying to reduce communal tensions, why did they send a Muslim cop to take down the flag of Shiva?

That sounds more like an attempt to increase communal tensions. Who was the one who made the decision?

That is what Common Sense will tell you,

But as you can see people in India have drunk from the "secular" pond and that clouds your vision and judgement.

Only actions by Hindus become communal. "Minorities" get a free pass

 

[Bombermanx1]

What the F did you just accuse me of. Listen you pos, you can call such names to your father not to me. Two of my uncles died due to maoists, you prick. Next time do not fucking quote me .

Well anyways last night was too drunk so forget it mate Sorry about getting personal I didnt mean it.

 

[Jackdaws]

We paid with our blood during Partition with 7 million DEAD.Even Ambdekar wanted total Partition. Why are you trying to put Dharmics Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus against each others?
Jews,Parsis and Christians came here as refugees When nobody in the world accepted them.Escaping from Persecution.
All because of Islamic Invasions in their Lands.So you will blame us Sanatana Dharmics for that?
I mean why is this forcible secularism being fed by Western Nations, when they invented "State separated against the state" only 300 years ago. While we welcomed the Refugees even before West could invent Secularism.
Let's say we had enough of Secularism of Western Construct,The British have left already,so we will define what we want.
Because we are the only nation left in the world for Sanatana Dharmics, So why do you want to dissolve us?

You are free do disagree, but we live in the real world.

In this real world the Muslim cops grew a beard IN-SPITE of Police Rules, take bribes in-spite of laws against it and there is social action against injustice.

Such theoretical view of life is good only in debates, not when your wife get molested by a guy in the street and you look for the nearest cop instead of defending your wife's honour.

This WAS JUSTICE and Equality dear, wearing a cop uniform does not make any one "just" or "equal". You have to ACT Just. That is the Litmus test.



LOL..... as I have said I am not interested in playing games. EVERYBODY here knows what an Islamic Beard is and what it looks like. Its like saying what is "islamic" about a skull cap ...... after all even Scouts and Cowboys wear caps



Yes the police did not take action against him, and we have seen where that ended up. Most rational people start questioning things after they seen violence. unlike you we do not live in a cocoon.



If we take the beard and muslim angle out of it the Mob would not have reacted this way



Ya allah, you do ? ........ big surprise.



When a cop sports a Muslim Beard when his service rules specifically tell him NOT to so that his religion is not showcased then it is a clear case of Communal action.

Are you a cop you moron ? if you are not then you have no argument



LOL... Taliban is the new Nazi. Godwin's law is applicable when people like you start calling names when they loose an argument

Maybe if you learn to use rational thinking and remove that communal bias and prejudice you just might be able to see the whole truth. But I seriously doubt it.

Even internet cannot cure such Bigotry.



I am not sure if you are Bigoted or just ignorant or pretending to be ignorant.

1. The Flag was not a "Hindu" Flag, it was SHIVAJI"S Flag. An Historic flag.

2. Muslims put up Flag all the time ........ I have never heard of Hindus objecting to green flags in India.

3. Pakistani Flag is a Political flag of an enemy state. Hoisting that is Treason under the law.

LOL - yes sure. I am the bigot here. Hahahaha.

 

[raktaka]

LOL - yes sure. I am the bigot here. Hahahaha.

It is quite funny how the shoe fits.