Made-in-Pakistan JF-17 fighter goes global, desi Tejas yet to take off

[punit]

let them put the Indian engines in the ucav Pakistan would have nothing to worry about them as they would pose no threat... Even if they do make it airborne and send them they are not going to return due to some sort of failures and land in Pakistan. Which would really make the entire project a big failure.

if JF 17 is indigenous .. SU 30 MKI is 10 times more indigenous !

 

[rockstarIN]

how many items in this list are indian ???????

Soon slowly items will replace Indian products, it not license produced in India. There is no point going for adding all Indian items if it is not economically viable.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Tejas is an embarrassment for us...... The worst part of it is, there seems to be no end for this embarrassment

But it is absolutely wrong to compare it with JF 17

Its only late bro, not failed. @Imran Khan there is already thread going on this update. And you were also there. So why you open this thread to troll Bhai??

 

[Imran Khan]

Its only late bro, not failed. @Imran Khan there is already thread going on this update. And you were also there. So why you open this thread to troll Bhai??

kuch tufani kerny ka maan tha bhai

 

[airmarshal]

@The Sultan Erdogan said so much I dont need to add.

Indian Tejas is like re inventing the wheel. Why you need to do that when all technologies are available from your partners - France, Russia and US?

New development of jet aircraft could have been a simple collaboration between partners, a path Pakistan took successfully produced a product that it needed.

Saying that JF-17 is 'assembled in Pakistan' is a matter of typical Indian hubris that we in the region are quite familiar with. Pakistan had strong input in its design and development - point repeated ad nauseam on this forum. Not only that, Pakistan has also developed its avionics and fire control. Its manufactured in collaboration with China but it is a Pakistani product.

Tejas isnt the only failed product from India. Arjun MBT is another one.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

kuch tufani kerny ka maan tha bhai

Lolzz. Chal yaar le lo maje abhi ke liye...

 

[nomi007]

BLAME ISI
FOR THE FAILURE OF TEJAS
AND DRAW BACKS OF IAF

 

[My-Analogous]

Not even the mighty China has an indigenous jet engine in service, it was always going to be VERY ambitious to get the Kaveri on the LCA in time.

That said, the Kaveri has laid a very solid foundation for which India will build upon for the future.


+ The Kaveri isn't dead, it will power UCAVs currently under development.

Who say to you that China don't have indigenous engine?

China-Made Aircraft Engine Has Started Mass Production - ASIAN DEFENCE NEWS

Jet Engine Development in China: Indigenous high-performance turbofans are a final step toward fully independent fighter production | China SignPost™

Thrust to weight ratio of JF 17 is 0.93 and that of LCA is 0.94.. which aircraft is under powered you can find out..


Thanks for clarifying...

JF17 Thrust to weight ratio is 1.08 not 0.93.

 

[SrNair]

Your confidence level in lca is simply horrible.

Because LCA is our baby .40 are already inducted and MK2 will be ready before the completion of 40.
But in your case ,you are rejoicing with a rejected Chinese stuff.
Carry on.

 

[Superboy]

Where your engine huh? Where's your engine? Selling is not possible without engine. That's why JF-17 has WS-13A engine. As for Gripen, Swedes copied American F404 engine nothing Americans can do to prevent Sweden from selling Gripen.

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

Where your engine huh? Where's your engine? Selling is not possible without engine. That's why JF-17 has WS-13A engine. As for Gripen, Swedes copied American F404 engine nothing Americans can do to prevent Sweden from selling Gripen.

In which world are you living in ? Mars ? Where is your WS13 engine which China working on for many decades now ? Inducted ? And I really amazed by some of the comments made by our members .

My simple question what is the life span of JF17 ? And Tejas ? Any idea guys ? You will be baffled by the answer . First do the math and come back .

And Tejas is not delayed FoC is been delayed that too how long ? 10 years ? 5 years ? 1 years ? Not even 8 months why is fake dopamine secretion in you brain ? Lol chill out and take a break . Tejas is already matured to your JF17 mk2 standard while MK1-P in the making apart from MK-2 ... Which is more than enough for light fighter class for 2-3 decade . Remember how Tejas was designed in the 80-90s ? And look at the end product which is evolved and will evolve further as it's our open source we can update as we wish and when we wish . All this bullsh about its range is farce and ew suit and aesa are not just dreams any more . Persons who dreaming is our neighbours . Lol chill out guys our own little beast is on the way

 

[Manas]

I'm yet to know what is the Pakistani contribution to JF-17 ??

Forget design or drawing broad stuff , Tell me one instrument or component even weapon on that JF-17 bird that is locally produced in Pakistan .

India has been assembling Mig-21s in the 1970s to MKIs in 2000s that way JF-17 is assembled in Pakistan today . The only difference is India never claimed Migs are Indian planes in the manner Pakistanis are tom-tomming about JF-17.

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

Because LCA is our baby .40 are already inducted and MK2 will be ready before the completion of 40.
But in your case ,you are rejoicing with a rejected Chinese stuff.
Carry on.

40 not yet inducted but will be before 2017-18 . But it won't stop next two avatars MK1-P and MK2 ... by 2022-25 the air worthy of JF17 will be like of our old migs lol Pakistan will have to pour in money to upgrade to keep them flying for another 10 years while India will have formidable 4++ and 5th gen fleet nearly 80 % starting from MK1-P MK2 , rafale super skois and FGFA or at least

I'm yet to know what is the Pakistani contribution to JF-17 ??

Forget design or drawing broad stuff , Tell me one instrument or component even weapon on that JF-17 bird that is locally produced in Pakistan .

India has been assembling Mig-21s in the 1970s to MKIs in 2000s that way JF-17 is assembled in Pakistan today . The only difference is India never claimed Migs are Indian planes in the manner Pakistanis are tom-tomming about JF-17.

The point should be what is the life of JF17 ... which is one the reason no other airforce rejectin

 

[SrNair]

40 not yet inducted but will be before 2017-18 . But it won't stop next two avatars MK1-P and MK2 ... by 2022-25 the air worthy of JF17 will be like of our old migs lol Pakistan will have to pour in money to upgrade to keep them flying for another 10 years while India will have formidable 4++ and 5th gen fleet nearly 80 % starting from MK1-P MK2 , rafale super skois and FGFA or at least

And remember LCA is just a low end aircraft for air policing and their J 17 is their main stay
Any way they are pretending that they cant understand such stuff ,so we dont need to explain to them.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

JF-17 is a superior product and vastly more successful than any other military jet project of South Asia. Tejas is a failure.

Pakistan's program management and planning have been superior to India's inferior, and rather backward approach.

Pakistan exploited China's superior industrial knowledge/base to its own benefit, and produced a very potent platform for its air force with having complete access to all the technology, source codes, and weapon-integration of the fighter jet.

In modern world, you rely on specialization in global market.

East Asians learned it early on, and sky-rocketed.

Arab World is learning it now..

Indians also need to learn that making a jet own their own rather than collaboration was a stupid mistake.

Turkey started with collaboration, then transfer of technology for F-16s, then becoming a partner in F-35 program...only after all of decades of learning and hands-on experience, we are planning to go towards our indigenous fighter jet (which, again, will involve collaboration with top foreign companies/countries as well).

It's like saying India's project management of the MKI is superior. They're both some products made and tested by the matured partner.

Like be serious, Pakistan's whole military budget is like $6 billion, how much of that is given to R&D? Not even a billion? What industry does Pakistan even have? It's a joke. Everyone knows who's doing the work.

Tejas can be the Prithvi, Agni 1 in India's aerospace, the K4s+, Agni 5+, will come in time. India has the time, money, and a maturing industry to support it.