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Maybe the real reason is they saw map one day and realized India equates to Holy Ganga and that Indus is 92% in Pakistan with 3% In Afghanistan, 2% in China measly 3% in India. Even paan intoxicatation can't overcome physical geographic reality.
Thanks. Consider this as a "fly by" - I could just not resist from firing a burst at the Ganga's. I got to keep the Ganga's tickled.
This adage 'Ganga' I have given to - well you know who has a thought out reason. If you look at map of South Asia two major rivers stare out at you. They are Indus on the west with it's green strip of irrigated land Ganga Basin in the east.
The differance between the two is stark. The Indus Basin essentialy is extention of the Middle East dry climate and is marked as semi-arid or aride desert. Only the mighty Indus provides us the water for irrigation otherwise it would be belly up for Pakistan. Therefore Indus Basin defines Pakistan and did so to our ancestors.
Ganga on the other hand is wet, damp and was tropical jungles until not long ago with monkeys, elephants and homo sapiens of cetain variety hanging off the trees. They contributed to no civilization whatsoever. Vast majority of Indian's are part or full descendants of these and thus my preferance for the term 'Ganga'. It captures the essence of what India is and Pakistan is NOT. We are NOT a Ganga people or culture. Not one inch of our land comes anywhere near the Ganga. For me the term Ganga sums up India as opposed to Indus Pakistan. That is why I suggest people here pick up that term please. When I do back here I expect 'Ganga' to be used more frequently.
Look at the physical map of South Asia. You can clearly see Indus Basin seprarated from India by the desert. Ganga Basin which has over 700 million Indians living within it and of course the Dravid India with another 400 million. Only Indian Punjab falls within the geography of Pakistan.
Indian writers know this that is why they will do anything to hyphenate Indus with Ganga in a desperate attempt to leech or suck off Indus - because as we know that is the cradle of civilization in our part of the world. Thus they come up with Indo-Ganga basin when that is incorrect. The two are entirely distinct regions with distinct climates. We must do eveything to link (rightly) Ganga/Hindu > India. Conversely Indus/Muslim > Pakistan. Ganga discharges flows toward and discharges into the Bay of Bengal whereas Indus flows toward and discharges into Arabian Sea.
Even outsiders are slowly realizing this - that geography of the Indus is what underpins Pakistan. Take the time to read this article by Robert Kaplan please.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/06/18/whats-wrong-with-pakistan/
http://www.geocurrents.info/geonote...atic-theory-of-pakistans-geographical-destiny
@Sinopakfriend
Where the hell was your Ganga dump during IVC times? It did not even make a mark on history. Our land on the other is cradle of civilization. Don't ever forget that.
I know. We gave you language. We gave you culture. We even gave you the makings of a religion. Now it would be nice if you could thank us.
Oh yes. They all packed their bags, every man, woman and child including the beasts and went to the Ganga. How so freakin convenient. What next. All of Mesopotamia also legged it to Ganga?
Every time I go to Pakistan I walk on history. I walk where our ancestors are buried. If the land could speak, wow would it have a story to tell. All over Pakistan are littered the relics and achievements of our great ancestors.
Now tell me Ganga, how does it feel to walk over land that produced nothing but junglees? How does it feel to look across to other lands to gain any heritage because your ancestors did not have any? Pretending and imagining something that you have nothing to do is delusion. Where exactly are you from in Ganga?
Now tell me
My family are from the Gandhara region of Pakistan. Honestly for most of my life I was unaware about it's central role in the history of Central/South Asia and it's ancient connections through the Silk Road to China whence the Buddhism travelled to China. Over time as I read more and more I became a avid fan of history. Of course I am a muslim but at a personal level it gives me deep satisfaction that my ancestors played such a central role in history. When I get time I will be finishing of a thread on this.
The problem is we have 1.3 billion with no history crying to claim some sort of legiitimacy because they don't have anything in the Ganga so they use all manner of subterfuge to claim what lies under our soil and which was product of our ancestors effort and intelligence.
@Sinopakfriend @django
What they do is grab hold intangible concepts like culture and vacous definitives like Hinduism - a term of recent vintage which even Supreme Court of India failed to describe. Then these intangibles are retro-fitted to 5,000 years. It's like "hey there were Hindus in Harrapa" because they inhaled air and walked on two legs. Oh we know they were Hindus because of their culture and yes the swastika (never mind that it's been found in Urals andv even further West). You can't even define culture today as it is complrex matrix like air but these Gangadesis can figure out that 5,000 years ago it was their culture.
The clever part is they walk away with a smile - even if you kick their teeth out. Reason is by being just embroiled with us their name gets linked with our heritage. It's like in boxing every wannabe wants to fight the champ. Not because they will win but because just fighting the champ elevates their status in the sense that it shows they must be something to have fought the champ.
So when they jump in and start claming IVC in actual fact they have already gained by associating themselves with something they have nothing to do with. Anyway Sino and Django I have to go now before I get drawn too much into this. Take care guys until next time. Spread the good message.
Here for you guy's. History stamped on our land
Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Archaeology and Museum Department and the Cultural Bureau of Shanxi province of China signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) to establish four museums, protect and preserve archaeological and heritage sites in different areas of the province.
The signing ceremony was held at Conference Room of the Tourism Corporation Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
Director Archaeology Dr Abdul Samad and a member of China delegation signed the MoU.
Under the MoU, the museums, archaeological and heritage sites would be preserved and renovated while four museums would be established in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
The Chinese delegation said that an educational institution would be established at the University of Peshawar to start Chinese language course and create awareness about the culture of China to people of this part of the world.
China would establish four international standard museums in the province having libraries and other modern facilities.
CPEC, honestly is modern iteration of the past. Gandhara wa symbiosis of Central Asia/Indus Valley and China. The same route that carried Buddhism north along the Silk Road will bring economic revolution to Pakistan. Amazingly the modern Karakorum Highway begins right next to Taxila and traverses many of the Gandhara Greco-Buddhist sites you see in the video.
At least two Indians have made peace with this issue but you got the reason wrong.I will. I am sponge for knowledge. I confess I have no idea what that is but I am going to read up on this. Thanks ...
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