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Too much madarsa and molvi company can do such things to a person- better to ignore him-
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Losing interest in Indus civilization
Many Indians are interested in Indus civilization because they associate their country's science & engineering talent with this civilization. They think their country is making strides in science & technology because of the heritage of Indus civilization.
But if the same Indians come to know of the dark truth about India's science & technology, the interest in Indus civilization would fizzle out instantly. Many of India's successes and failures are hidden in mystery and things actually may not be as they appear. When I pondered over the real technological capability of India, I instantly felt like giving the Indus valley civilization discussion a complete miss. In light of these revelations, even if Indus civilization indeed belongs to India, I wouldn't give two hoots.
There are strong reasons to believe that India's civilian space programs and military R&D projects may be non-indigenous or even fake. Indian technology doesn't seem to be about innovation/ingenuity. It is probably about purchasing and managing. The list of misleading red herrings is long. For instance, if India's Mars and Lunar missions are real, why is it unable to invent engines for it's military plane even after so many decades of trying? If Indian space missions are real, why are Indian programmers/coders so notoriously incompetent? Why is India harassed by a tiny country of Pakistan? Please don't cite Western awards and other significant 'recognition' of Indian science & technology. West has it's own agenda and their hyped certificates often don't indicate real merit.
The question is why do Indians do it? Why would Indians fabricate a facade about their science & technology prowess? I can think of two answers: One, to deter nuclear attacks by creating a camouflage of great strength. Two, to make money by siphoning R&D funds. The point they want to convey is: "Since we are capable of making civilian rockets, we are also capable of making effective and functioning nukes. So beware and refrain from using your nukes."
Too much madarsa and molvi company can do such things to a person- better to ignore him-
Before comments at least do some research. You are same as you trying to truant the others
In the Arabic language, the word مدرسة madrasah simply means the same as school does in the English language, whether that is private, public or parochial school, as well as for any primary or secondary school whether Muslims, non-Muslim, or secular
Quoting a Hindu. Read what he posted above. It makes sense.One discomforting thought: Just as we Indians are confident of indeginous capabilities of our scientists, Pakistanis too are confident of their scientists. By corollary just as we ridicule Pakistan's nuclear and missile programme, one can also argue that India's technology is nothing but plagiarism. If you say that India's case looks more genuine, one can explain it with a solid reason that India has more money to create red-herrings (misleading clues) to make it look genuine. We, lay people cannot be sure because we are not in the know. We are not the concerned persons on ground zero. We can merely guess not even speculate. Hence it is often said that many of RAW's (RAW is also responsible for defense deals and has a science and technology division in its organisation) successes and failures are shrouded in mystery and we may never know the truth.
So many members are getting the post wrong. So I suppose something must be wrong with articulation. The thread is not about interest and priorities of Indian engineers. The thread is about the doubts and question mark about capabilities of Indian scientists.Indus Civilisation is the motivation, and proof that India is reclaiming it's lost pride!!
Coming to technological advancement, well that depends on interest. If you are really and honestly a professional person you will aim less to take your appointment as a engineer in ISRO or DRDO merely as a Job but your passion.
Most of the planners and technocrats in India take their Job as settlement , secured life kind of a scenario. Which needs to be changed. But many make their Job as passion and that's what leads to development.
The thread is about the doubts and question mark about capabilities of Indian scientists
Hey twat!I have mentioned.
if you take your job merely as income producer, well the capability will reduce. It's simple funda. You need to be highly passionate, mad, and want to do something. And your capability will increase. The current development of India is credited to those passionate people who have no personal life and are mad about what they are upto. That zeal and zest!
Hey twat!
Read this:
Reverse engineering and then claiming the technology as indigenous:- India's shameful secret revealed!
India did not master any rocket technology. India just copied it and reverse engineered soviet missile technology.
There are only a few countries in the world that have truly designed and deployed modern ballistic missiles from scratch. US and Soviet Union are pioneers. India is not one of them and never was.
During the late 1980's, India started off what it called the Project Devil (yes, that's a real name they gave to it) to develop missiles and rockets. A lot of technology from soviet union was reversed engineered or simply copied to produce Indian current missiles.
India has never produced any defence product on its own from scratch, so such questions should be asked with care. Indian missiles are copies or reverse engineered copies of Soviet missiles. Indian jet fighters are designed and developed by either Russian, American, or European companies. Likewise, the rockets used to probe space are Russian technology, painted with Indian colors (it costs money too).
The failure of Kaveri engine is a proof that India alone cannot design any modern defence article. Probably no western or European country or Russia was willing to extend help on this program, which is why the DRDO could not copy anything to make it working.
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"During the first phase (1958-1970), India's missile ambitions were confined to building a first-generation anti-tank missile (ATGM) and developing a three-ton thrust, liquid-fueled rocket engine most likely based on the Soviet SA-2. In Phase II (1971-1979), India's missile program focused on two significant projects: the first, Project Devil, was an attempt to "reverse-engineer" the Soviet SA-2 surface-to-air missile (SAM), while the objective of the second, Project Valiant, was the development of a 1,500 km-range ballistic missile."
@Vishvamitra @Bill_Maher @danger007 @GR!FF!NLosing interest in Indus civilization
Many Indians are interested in Indus civilization because they associate their country's science & engineering talent with this civilization. They think their country is making strides in science & technology because of the heritage of Indus civilization.
But if the same Indians come to know of the dark truth about India's science & technology, the interest in Indus civilization would fizzle out instantly. Many of India's successes and failures are hidden in mystery and things actually may not be as they appear. When I pondered over the real technological capability of India, I instantly felt like giving the Indus valley civilization discussion a complete miss. In light of these revelations, even if Indus civilization indeed belongs to India, I wouldn't give two hoots.
There are strong reasons to believe that India's civilian space programs and military R&D projects may be non-indigenous or even fake. Indian technology doesn't seem to be about innovation/ingenuity. It is probably about purchasing and managing. The list of misleading red herrings is long. For instance, if India's Mars and Lunar missions are real, why is it unable to invent engines for it's military plane even after so many decades of trying? If Indian space missions are real, why are Indian programmers/coders so notoriously incompetent? Why is India harassed by a tiny country of Pakistan? Please don't cite Western awards and other significant 'recognition' of Indian science & technology. West has it's own agenda and their hyped certificates often don't indicate real merit.
The question is why do Indians do it? Why would Indians fabricate a facade about their science & technology prowess? I can think of two answers: One, to deter nuclear attacks by creating a camouflage of great strength. Two, to make money by siphoning R&D funds. The point they want to convey is: "Since we are capable of making civilian rockets, we are also capable of making effective and functioning nukes. So beware and refrain from using your nukes."