Lockheed Martin to offer F-35 to India ?

[monitor]

Lockheed Martin to offer F-35 to India ?
Published July 23, 2016
SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK

According to a report prepared by Financial Express , after Lockheed Martin failed to create Indian interest in their legacy F-16 fighter jets , is currently preparing to offer its latest 5th generation F-35A to Indian Air force to meet its requirements for 90 combat fighter jets above 36 Rafale fighter jets currently been negotiated with France . The report also mentions that India has officially turned down ” Make in India ” F-16 offer from Lockheed Martin and is currently going through proposals submitted by Swedish SAAB for their Gripen E and American Boeing’s F-18s combat fighter jets with Transfer of Technology to be made in India . F-35A reported per unit cost is 98$ million with additional funds required for weapons ,spares and training support . Defence analyst close to idrw.org do not believe Lockheed Martin will offer Transfer of Technology (TOT) nor will agree to Make it in India , most likely it will offer to establish local supply chain in India for its maintenance and components but it is unlikely to see any interest in India’s Defence ministry . India is already negotiating with Russia for the development of 5t generation FGFA based on Sukhoi’s T-50 design and has committed to contribute 4 $ Billion each in its development with committed orders for 114 units of this Indo-Russia developed 5th generation Heavy Class fighter which will be slotted above current Air superiority fighter jets like Sukhoi-30 MKI . India also plans to kickstart its own 5th generation multirole fighter jet programme AMCA by the end of this year for which Defence ministry and various Aerospace developmental and production agencies in India are waiting for official clearance to the project from the government with project budget allocation, timelines and collaborations to be cleared soon . NOTE : Article cannot be reproduced without written permission and Direct Citation to Article link or mention of idrw.org or IDRW NEWS NETWORK has to be mentioned .

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[PARIKRAMA]

Cross posting from Rafale Sticky where i had put the article and comments today morning

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Comments

The article only describes what was told by me a good time back and reiterated a week plus back

1. Small correction - Deal offered was F16-F35 upgradation package
2. Original F16 route was 160 and 60 F35 which has been now reduced to 90 F16 and 65-67 F35 (75% of F16 fleet)
3. There was a separate proposal for procuring 65 F35 (4 squadrons) with no TOT for appeasing USA in case we dont buy any american jets and no MII line for them
4. This order directly competes with 65-100 (not more than 100) PAKFA Stage 1 jets which is being planned for procurement in 2021-26 timeline . That is the back up plan of DM MP for squadron strength issue.
5. Time and again DM MP has talked about technology transfer, no conditionalities/strings and what really is being offered other than marketing gimmicks.
6. Its been said DM MP is not convinced with either of LM, Saab and Boeing offer till date. And all of them keep coming with revised offers to convince him.
7. The third angle to all this is Russia has requested India to look at Su35 officially in Innoprom 2016 and have suggested a good number for quick induction. With commonality to Super upgrade, the planes will have most of the tech already shared with India. DM MP has yet not even considered the proposal and given it a thought.

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[Ali Zadi]

I am a network engineer by profession and I must say these American planes use very different network equipment and the last I heard because of extensive encryption F35's have problems interacting with sub plane's.

If India were to go with F35 they would receive their aircraft quite late after the NATO have had their fill I guess, otherwise India will have to pay quite a bit extra for G2G or something similar.

 

[ebrahym]

Lockheed Martin to offer F-35 to India ?
Published July 23, 2016
SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK

According to a report prepared by Financial Express , after Lockheed Martin failed to create Indian interest in their legacy F-16 fighter jets , is currently preparing to offer its latest 5th generation F-35A to Indian Air force to meet its requirements for 90 combat fighter jets above 36 Rafale fighter jets currently been negotiated with France . The report also mentions that India has officially turned down ” Make in India ” F-16 offer from Lockheed Martin and is currently going through proposals submitted by Swedish SAAB for their Gripen E and American Boeing’s F-18s combat fighter jets with Transfer of Technology to be made in India . F-35A reported per unit cost is 98$ million with additional funds required for weapons ,spares and training support . Defence analyst close to idrw.org do not believe Lockheed Martin will offer Transfer of Technology (TOT) nor will agree to Make it in India , most likely it will offer to establish local supply chain in India for its maintenance and components but it is unlikely to see any interest in India’s Defence ministry . India is already negotiating with Russia for the development of 5t generation FGFA based on Sukhoi’s T-50 design and has committed to contribute 4 $ Billion each in its development with committed orders for 114 units of this Indo-Russia developed 5th generation Heavy Class fighter which will be slotted above current Air superiority fighter jets like Sukhoi-30 MKI . India also plans to kickstart its own 5th generation multirole fighter jet programme AMCA by the end of this year for which Defence ministry and various Aerospace developmental and production agencies in India are waiting for official clearance to the project from the government with project budget allocation, timelines and collaborations to be cleared soon . NOTE : Article cannot be reproduced without written permission and Direct Citation to Article link or mention of idrw.org or IDRW NEWS NETWORK has to be mentioned .

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chaloooooooooo..........

 

[Tamilnadu]

I am a network engineer by profession and I must say these American planes use very different network equipment and the last I heard because of extensive encryption F35's have problems interacting with sub plane's.

If India were to go with F35 they would receive their aircraft quite late after the NATO have had their fill I guess, otherwise India will have to pay quite a bit extra for G2G or something similar.

Indian Navy will buy F 35 ,may be after 2020-21,our navy will have aroung 60 of these,i dont think IAF is intrested in F 35.

 

[egodoc222]

Thanks but no thanks!

 

[Centurion2016]

F35 will join Indian navy I am 75% certain.

By 2030 Indian navy will have over 60 f35 on two carriers vikramditya and vibrant. With another 20 land based.

 

[John Reese]

F35 will join Indian navy I am 75% certain.

By 2030 Indian navy will have over 60 f35 on two carriers vikramditya and vibrant. With another 20 land based.

No not on them

But CATOBAR on Vishal

 

[Blue Marlin]

Lockheed Martin to offer F-35 to India ?
Published July 23, 2016
SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK

According to a report prepared by Financial Express , after Lockheed Martin failed to create Indian interest in their legacy F-16 fighter jets , is currently preparing to offer its latest 5th generation F-35A to Indian Air force to meet its requirements for 90 combat fighter jets above 36 Rafale fighter jets currently been negotiated with France . The report also mentions that India has officially turned down ” Make in India ” F-16 offer from Lockheed Martin and is currently going through proposals submitted by Swedish SAAB for their Gripen E and American Boeing’s F-18s combat fighter jets with Transfer of Technology to be made in India . F-35A reported per unit cost is 98$ million with additional funds required for weapons ,spares and training support . Defence analyst close to idrw.org do not believe Lockheed Martin will offer Transfer of Technology (TOT) nor will agree to Make it in India , most likely it will offer to establish local supply chain in India for its maintenance and components but it is unlikely to see any interest in India’s Defence ministry . India is already negotiating with Russia for the development of 5t generation FGFA based on Sukhoi’s T-50 design and has committed to contribute 4 $ Billion each in its development with committed orders for 114 units of this Indo-Russia developed 5th generation Heavy Class fighter which will be slotted above current Air superiority fighter jets like Sukhoi-30 MKI . India also plans to kickstart its own 5th generation multirole fighter jet programme AMCA by the end of this year for which Defence ministry and various Aerospace developmental and production agencies in India are waiting for official clearance to the project from the government with project budget allocation, timelines and collaborations to be cleared soon . NOTE : Article cannot be reproduced without written permission and Direct Citation to Article link or mention of idrw.org or IDRW NEWS NETWORK has to be mentioned .

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im have doubts on the f35 as lm has joined it on to the f16 line here which is more important as the production line in texas will dry up of orders late next year. but if india buys the f16 chances are some of them will be built in texas and indian technitions will be trained there. but i dont see it happening as india is not stupid to buy a jet its adversary knows inside out and has been using since the 80's

 

[SpArK]

Good news from the above is the information that MoD goin through Saab and F-18s proposals.

A commonality of GE engine as predicted looong back.

 

[nik141993]

next will be chinese offering there j 20 etc...this drama will never end

 

[[Bregs]]

sine past 12 yrs or so simple deal of MMRCA is not signed for 36 aircraft in ready made condition and now all these offers will be decided by 2030 ?

 

[Abba_Dabba_Jabba]

It would be better to go for these birds with assembly line instead of F-16 or F-18. In that way we will have good experience in manufacturing few sub-parts if LM allows us, and that will help with assembly line of AMCA. Otherwise AMCA will be screwed by HAL, we need hands on experience with an American 5th gen jet.

 

[Green Angel]

Make in India...Offer...

 

[egodoc222]

Make in India...Offer...

Ok...you wanna add anything more?