Lieutenant Colonel in J&K shots himself up

[TomCat111]

How did you come to the conclusion the IA soldiers not involved in Internal Security is less likely to commit suicide. Do you have a link which specifically states that which can be referenced to some study.

I was hoping for a better response from you. Oh well...

Conversely, do you have a “link which specifically states that which can be referenced to some study” that suggests otherwise?

Look at press releases and news items and then share with us how many desk clerks in New Delhi have gone psycho and killed themselves and their comrades over a trivial matter like denial of leave?

 

[Adux]

80 people were killed in pakistan, including children in Madrassa bombing, pakistan claims they did it, other reports states it might have been done by the US.

What do u think the Pakistani Pilots must be feeling now, after they killed people who could not reply in Kind.its a moot point, its war. If pakistani establishment thought it was necessary to kill its own citizens who were creating problems, as well for the greater good of pakistan and it was the last resort. Then I absloutly agree with the establishment, Intergrity of your country is important.

Do u see Israeli's killing themseleves en masse, NO
Just a like you have a % of the population who would commit sucides, as they cant deal with life. same way % of army as big as china or india will have its share of sucides, u can add reasons such as family, stress, unhappyiness etc

Most soldiers in Sudan, Congo Rwanda, Ethiopoa are not commiting sucides are they according to ur standards. Didnt they commit genocide after genocide

 

[TomCat111]

why cant be sheer helpness of his comrades dieing of terrorist bombing and his inability to strike back

humnn… I wonder why a soldier devastated over his comrade’s death would go psycho and shoot rest of his comrades? It doesn’t make any sense to me, but maybe one of the studies you have read explains such a psychopathic behavior.

since IA is very strict on Collateral Damage.

:lol1:

 

[Adux]

humnn… I wonder why a soldier devastated over his comrade’s death would go psycho and shoot rest of his comrades? It doesn’t make any sense to me, but maybe one of the studies you have read explains such a psychopathic behavior.



:lol1:

Tomkatt take it as a request or maybe even a plea from me, I have great deal of respect for people in uniform wether they are indian or pakistani, Politics and ideolgies is what make them different from each other, otherwise they are the same. I hope you would show respect to the soldiers of my country like i do urs.We have recieved the tortured body of our soldier from you, To me even that is the part of war, There was a soldier in Pakistan who was ready to do it, There was a soldier from India who was ready to take it. If the soldier feels guilty about torture he would still do it, thats his duty


Adu

 

[TomCat111]

Smile and be happy that they are alive , and people who came to kill them are dead.There stories pakistani's trained terrorist killing us in our metros, If u ask me, it is better them than me. This is how humans are, deal with it.

Thanks for sharing your ethos with us. It explains very well how your soldiers can gun down innocent civilians and still have a stomach to smile and flash victory signs.

Why do u think the americans are killing everyone who they are feeling as a terrorist. Survival of the fittest.

1. does that make it right?
2. conversely, the terrorists could make the same argument. Then why call them terrorists? Why not call them fittest survivors?

 

[Adux]

humnn… I wonder why a soldier devastated over his comrade’s death would go psycho and shoot rest of his comrades? It doesn’t make any sense to me, but maybe one of the studies you have read explains such a psychopathic behavior.



:lol1:

And I was talkin about sucides and not Muder of his comrades. Please dont misqoute or twist my words for ur convience,

 

[Adux]

Thanks for sharing your ethos with us. It explains very well how your soldiers can gun down innocent civilians and still have a stomach to smile and flash victory signs.



1. does that make it right?
2. conversely, the terrorists could make the same argument. Then why call them terrorists? Why not call them fittest survivors?

I Dont know which incident you are talking about, So i cant comment on it. Dont you see the excess done by Indian Army flashed by Indian Newspapers, shows our transperancy doesnt it, And you conviently forget about the NEWS from the same newspapers about the convictions of those very soldieers. I am sure even you or me or most people wont show victory signs on people who didnt have anything to shoot back with.There is propaganda on both sides, It would be great if you could see thru it.

Yes if a Kashmiri youth goes against the establishment by resorting to voilence aka AK-47 and hand grenades they will be gunned down, period. I would advice the same for Balochistan. If you have laws and constitution they better abide by them.There are other ways of attaining freedom, How did India and Pakistan achieve its Independence, Did u see Jinnah wielding a gun.


1.It doesnt make it right,So what else is new in this world
2.Isnt that what they are already saying, I really dont care, if they hurt my people I say Hurt them back.

 

[joey]

Adux My request to you, Ignore this person.
Hes being ignorant and your dancing with him as a doll?

Are you out of your mind buddy?
I can assure you he has never touched any uniform to talk things like that.
hopefully you'll stop this BS discussion Adux.

 

[Adux]

Adux My request to you, Ignore this person.
Hes being ignorant and your dancing with him as a doll?

Are you out of your mind buddy?
I can assure you he has never touched any uniform to talk things like that.
hopefully you'll stop this BS discussion Adux.

I give very one a chance joey, but i will definitly keep your advice in my mind.Are you the same guy from BR and WAB

 

[Adux]

Honestly I wanted to have a discussion on how constant rotation of troops, also more time with family would help decrease suicide rates, as well education for jawans, so that they can also life outside the army. In the end it turned out to be mud slinging match, Weird

 

[joey]

Yes I am, Feel free to discuss if you have energy but I've done it and thers no end to it, moving in circles if you know what i'm talking about.

There are many far better members in this board who can actually put up some data on table and talk professionally.

 

[Adux]

Yes I am, Feel free to discuss if you have energy but I've done it and thers no end to it, moving in circles if you know what i'm talking about.

There are many far better members in this board who can actually put up some data on table and talk professionally.

Its 3 o clock in the morning...i am typing with One eye open.lol, So u right, i take my leave.

Adu

 

[joey]

haha same here chao bro!
gd nite.
3.03 here.

 

[Awesome]

80 people were killed in pakistan, including children in Madrassa bombing, pakistan claims they did it, other reports states it might have been done by the US.

What do u think the Pakistani Pilots must be feeling now, after they killed people who could not reply in Kind.its a moot point, its war. If pakistani establishment thought it was necessary to kill its own citizens who were creating problems, as well for the greater good of pakistan and it was the last resort. Then I absloutly agree with the establishment, Intergrity of your country is important.

Do u see Israeli's killing themseleves en masse, NO
Just a like you have a % of the population who would commit sucides, as they cant deal with life. same way % of army as big as china or india will have its share of sucides, u can add reasons such as family, stress, unhappyiness etc

Most soldiers in Sudan, Congo Rwanda, Ethiopoa are not commiting sucides are they according to ur standards. Didnt they commit genocide after genocide

Find some solace in that the Indian soldier's better than the genocidal Sudani soldier.

Indian government on the other hand has many cases of genocide and massacres on their bloody hands.

 

[Keysersoze]

It sadden's me to say this but in my experience it is too easy to dehumanise the "enemy" there are tricks that (military) training uses (which I will not go into now) But sometimes reality can break through and land on you like a ton of bricks.

It happens to anyone (both the ability to commit atrocities and for reality to hit)