LHC hearing to remove Nawaz from ECL

[niaz]

Niaz sahib, when you commit crimes and are convicted you lose certain freedoms. No one is denying Nawaz the right to seek treatment in Pakistan or abroad, but asking for some kind of a bond from a convicted criminal in order to be allowed to travel overseas is absolutely justified.

The State has a responsibility to do whatever it can to ensure that convicted criminals do not find a way to evade punishment, even while addressing issues like necessary treatment abroad.

Finally, the optics of this precedent are extremely poor from the perspective of the average Pakistani, especially the poor and lower middle class - innocent people who cannot even afford proper healthcare while living freely are seeing this as an example of the wealthy & influential being treated by a different standard. Court cases being heard in amazingly quick time and convicted criminals being allowed to travel abroad for ‘treatment’ without any conditions, while the poor suffer with what they have.

Nawaz has been convicted and sent to prison, not a resort where he can have his pick of which level of concierge service he wants.

Honorable AgNoStiC MuSlim,

I respect your views. It is undoubtedly true that NS is a convicted felon. My view remains that despite being a felon, NS has been Prime Minister of Pakistan not once but 3 times which means that despite everything, NS has a large vote bank, especially in Punjab. This makes him not an ordinary criminal but a very special one.

Since the very Court that convicted NS has allowed him to go out on bail for 8 weeks to undergo treatment of his choice with the bond amount already specified in the Court order; in my view asking for additional security of an enormous sum reeks of mala fide intentions and vindictiveness and a show of magnanimity would have been a better option.

However, I admit that this a controversial matter and I do not expect others to agree with me. The appeal against additional security is already in court; lets us wait and see what is legally correct.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Since the very Court that convicted NS has allowed him to go out on bail for 8 weeks to undergo treatment of his choice with the bond amount already specified in the Court order; in my view asking for additional security of an enormous sum reeks of mala fide intentions and vindictiveness and a show of magnanimity would have been a better option.

Alternately, it's not about vindictiveness but the PTI also having to address the demands of its voter base that was up in arms over Nawaz being granted the 8 week bail. The media hasn't played a constructive role either in spreading rumors about 'deals' & 'NROs', things that were the PTI's campaign promise and things that Ik continues to take a position against.

You can't realistically expect the PTI to shoot itself in the foot politically, when it's already struggling to convince everyone of the utility of its painful economic reforms.

 

[ziaulislam]

That's what the government has done with Justice Issa. Is NAB authorized to investigate the assets of judges? That will obviously open another can of worms because the opposition is going to allege that NAB is being used to go after judges the government doesn't agree with. Of course the Chairman NAB is appointed via consultation between the government and opposition, and the current CM NAB was appointed by PMLN & PPP, and was not the PTI's first choice, so not sure why PTI is being blamed for NAB's actions.

One thing of sure if the country survives these judgment will be read in shame in the future

Yes every govt employees infact wveey citizen assets are open to investigation in any Democratic country for corruption and tax evation respectively

 

[TNT]

Why dont we just let the courts also run the country and take decisions. I have realised that the judiciary has a major role in the downfall of Pakistan and its society.

 

[Bil]

Board of doctors advise to send Nawaz Sharif abroad for medical treatment and judiciary has accepted that Pakistan doesnt have quality healthcare facilities. This means that we 200 million Pakistani's are in danger?

LOL, Hafeez is trolling ...

 

[Bil]

Please keep in mind that politicized courts are not unique to Pakistan. Take the example of the US - the Supreme Court has 5 conservative justices and 4 liberal justices. The Republican controlled senate held up Obama’s appointment of a SC judge because they were hoping that a Republican would become President and appoint a conservative (which is what happened). Many times decisions are on a 5-4 vote against the liberal point of view. Many Americans may disagree with those decision and justifiably blame the Republican Party for the situation because it could have been 5 liberals and 4 conservative judges had Obama’s appointment not been held up. But at the same time they respect those decisions and that is how a civilized society works.

Instead of maligning the judiciary, we need to discuss what kinds of reforms can be out in place to reduce the degree of partisanship on the courts (in my view this goes back to reforming law schools and stricter standards for lawyers to be able to practice).

I dont think any sane person can compare US judicial system with rotten & toxic judiciary of Pakistan. Tell me where in the world a convicted criminal had been allowed to go abroad on medical grounds? And if this is allowed to Nawaz than why not those who are legitimately ill?

I am all in for judiciary reforms in Pakistan, but PTI can't do it, because for the obvious reason (PTI doesnt possesses two third majority, neither PML-N or PPP will aid PTI to change existing rules and laws, because they are the one made these rule and laws in the first place and these shield them).

Judiciary of Pakistan has been deliberately destroyed by Noora brothers from decades along with Punjab police and other instituted.

Here are some true words ...