Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore’s Founding Father, Dies at 91

[dlclong]

just a conjecture...what if malaysia is run by LKY?

He may never get to do the prime minister..
If there is, then Malaysia may outbreak of ethnic problems... .. .
Perhaps in order to right, maybe you will not know more Chinese (character),if u r chinese.. ..

 

[xunzi]

He was the mentor of Deng Xiaopeng, also one of the most influential person of modern history.

How is he a mentor when Deng is older, and if he is alive, he would celebrate his 110th birthday?

 

[Aepsilons]

I must say that a great brain on the earth leave the world,RIP

I admired his view of a unified Singapura , irrespective of ethnic or religious origins -- everyone saw the need to work together for the country. A transcendant aperture, if you may. I have the privilege of knowing Singaporeans personally through past projects together --- either they be of Chinese, Indian, Malay or Mixed backgrounds -- they always, always exemplified great courteous nature, respect and professionalism. A truly model behavior. Although, as it seems, there are always exceptions to the rule.

 

[Beast]

How is he a mentor when Deng is older, and if he is alive, he would celebrate his 110th birthday?

That's why I say his advice to Deng is irrelevant. Deng already has a vision where would China head. Look at ROC Taiwan , Hong Kong and South Korea, do they even need Mr Lee advise to attain first world?

 

[xunzi]

That's why I say his advice to Deng is irrelevant. Deng already has a vision where would China head. Look at ROC Taiwan , Hong Kong and South Korea, do they even need Mr Lee advise to attain first world?

Deng already had a vision to open China up back in the 1940s before Singapore was even recognize as an independent city state. If anything, Deng vision influence Lee Kuan Yew as he is 20 years his senior. It is only in 1970s that Deng vision is adopt by CCP. That's why there is this belief Deng learn from someone else. He already had that vision back when he was young, fighting in the revolution.

 

[powastick]

just a conjecture...what if malaysia is run by LKY?

Weak mandate and lack of political capital.

 

[Aepsilons]

That's why I say his advice to Deng is irrelevant. Deng already has a vision where would China head. Look at ROC Taiwan , Hong Kong and South Korea, do they even need Mr Lee advise to attain first world?

@Beast ,

Early in South Korea's statehood, the policies implemeneted by the late South Korean President Park Chung Hee is almost identical to that of Lee Kuan Yew; strong central government model, repression of political rivals, encouragement of privatization of companies (copied the Japanese concept of Zaibatsu), reformed the educational system, strict nationalist policy, strong infrastructure and industry model. More or less, the iron handed style of Park Chung Hee was similar to that of Lee Kuan Yew.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

That's why I say his advice to Deng is irrelevant. Deng already has a vision where would China head. Look at ROC Taiwan , Hong Kong and South Korea, do they even need Mr Lee advise to attain first world?

just a conjecture...what if malaysia is run by LKY?

The PRC leaders despite all their short coming has one very admirable qualities. PRC leaders will never let any foreigners take over the country.

PRC is willing to train her own sons, ground up to let them take over the job. Any foreigners who wish to set up shop better hire PRC, or they prepare to go broke.

That is one thing admirable about UMNO (good or bad). They can tell you I dont care about efficiency so long I am in charge.

SG is totally prostitute after Kuan Yew completely get rid of PAP old guards.

NCMP Yee Jenn Jong from the WP asked in parliament how many scholarships were given to foreigners and how these scholarship holders are tracked to ensure that they fulfil their obligation. He also asked if the quality of foreign scholars has fallen given countries like India and China are more affluent today and can choose to study elsewhere.

Here's a part of a report on answer from Sim Ann who is the Senior Parliamentary Secretary for Education:

"She offered an indicator of how well foreign scholarship
holders perform: Around 45 per cent complete their undergraduate studies with a
second-upper class honours or better; only 32 per cent of Singaporeans do as
well.

Foreign scholars closely tracked, Training & Development, Singapore Jobs, Job Resources - STJobs

That is to say 55% of foreign scholars cannot get 2 upper and SG students are better. That is to say SG students who are better are put into debt while foreigners got scholarship.

Worse, SG students who are better are deprive of all jobs and post graduates positions by PAP and their imported foreign managers.

 

[Beast]

@Beast ,

Early in South Korea's statehood, the policies implemeneted by the late South Korean President Park Chung Hee is almost identical to that of Lee Kuan Yew; strong central government model, repression of political rivals, encouragement of privatization of companies (copied the Japanese concept of Zaibatsu), reformed the educational system, strict nationalist policy, strong infrastructure and industry model. More or less, the iron handed style of Park Chung Hee was similar to that of Lee Kuan Yew.

Then Hong Kong and ROC Taiwan? They attain first world much faster than singapore. So lee copy hong konger or Taiwanese?

 

[Aepsilons]

That's why I say his advice to Deng is irrelevant. Deng already has a vision where would China head. Look at ROC Taiwan , Hong Kong and South Korea, do they even need Mr Lee advise to attain first world?

Taiwan's success in the 70s, 80s and 90s --- can be attributed to the successful policies of the following men during the critical years :

1) Chiang Ching-kuo
2) Yen Chia-kan
3) Lee Teng-hui

Then Hong Kong and ROC Taiwan? They attain first world much faster than singapore. So lee copy hong konger or Taiwanese?

The policies of the day , during the Cold War, excused some 'dictatoresque' style of governance by democracies --- so long as the state developed. The early rule of Ferdinand Marcos had realized the same success that was seen in Singapore under Lee Kuan Yew , the same for South Korea under Park Chung Hee, the same for Taiwan under Yen, Chiang, and Lee -- all three were regarded as successful leaders that heralded Taiwan's rise as an Asian Economic Tiger.

In fact Asia's original Asian Economic Tigers had leadership that had an iron style of governance in the early years; Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore.

lee copy hong konger or Taiwanese?

Lee followed the traditional Confucian style of leadership: Authoritarianism. It worked. In fact, all of East Asia (except North Korea) that followed an authoritarian style of governance during the critical years of development --- reaped success. Examples -- Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, China , and to an extent Singapore (which inherited strong East Asian culture through the shear demographic influence).

 

[Manindra]

R.I.P. Sir, World lost one of the best statesman.

 

[Aepsilons]

Weak mandate and lack of political capital.

It was lack of vision, coupled with prejudicial policy, that the Malaysian Federation ejected Singapore. It is now, to their loss, their greatest policy failure ever adopted -- to cede Singapore. It was based on the the failure of the Tunku's visage to see a multiracial base.

Let us dichotomize Singapore with Malaysia. Singapore is , in essence, a multiracial state; with Chinese, Malays, Indians, and other nationals living in the state. Note -- that it is a depolarized state -- with ethnic groups marrying each other, living with each other, working, communing together. Malaysia, on the other hand, is polarized with their Bumiputra policy set in place. Lee Kuan Yew actually stated in an interview:

"I think if the Tunku had kept us together, what we did in Singapore, had Malaysia accepted a multiracial base for their society, much of what we’ve achieved in Singapore would be achieved in Malaysia. But not as much because it’s a much broader base. We would have improved inter-racial relations and an improved holistic situation.”

“Now we have a very polarized Malaysia, Malays, Chinese and Indians in separate schools, living separate lives and not really getting on with one another. You read them. That’s bad for us as close neighbors.”

Imagine if Malaysia had not expelled Singapore. It would have been a larger version of Singapore , more or less.


Reference:
Transcripts – New York Times/IHT interview Lee Kuan Yew | The Online Citizen

 

[Beast]

Taiwan's success in the 70s, 80s and 90s --- can be attributed to the successful policies of the following men during the critical years :

1) Chiang Ching-kuo
2) Yen Chia-kan
3) Lee Teng-hui



The policies of the day , during the Cold War, excused some 'dictatoresque' style of governance by democracies --- so long as the state developed. The early rule of Ferdinand Marcos had realized the same success that was seen in Singapore under Lee Kuan Yew , the same for South Korea under Park Chung Hee, the same for Taiwan under Yen, Chiang, and Lee -- all three were regarded as successful leaders that heralded Taiwan's rise as an Asian Economic Tiger.

In fact Asia's original Asian Economic Tigers had leadership that had an iron style of governance in the early years; Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore.



Lee followed the traditional Confucian style of leadership: Authoritarianism. It worked. In fact, all of East Asia (except North Korea) that followed an authoritarian style of governance during the critical years of development --- reaped success. Examples -- Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, China , and to an extent Singapore (which inherited strong East Asian culture through the shear demographic influence).

This system is not originated by Lee. In fact, Lee learn a thing or 2 from them.

 

[Aepsilons]

This system is not originated by Lee. In fact, Lee learn a thing or 2 from them.

Lee Kuan Yew was in power even before these said three men took reigns as Presidents of Taiwan. One could academically theorize that a bilateral learning mechanism was available between Singapore and Taiwan. I think that would be a viable essay.

 

[terranMarine]

Imagine if Malaysia had not expelled Singapore. It would have been a larger version of Singapore , more or less.

I don't think so, LKY would still not be in charge of Malaysia