LCA tejas fighting fit

[NHUDA]

May Be If You Would have either Updated you information ..
1- Hats Off to Camouflage the 30 years of Tries & Misses & eventually Giving UP (the Engine & much More is Still not Indigenous - Kaveri is shut down)

2- the FOC for Tejas has been already postponed to 2016

3- i) Mk-II was still on Drawing board
ii) Even Best of Estimates Stated it will not become a "Reality" before 2018-19 (we are Talking TD)
iii) Recent Reports are suggesting MK-II is also not going to be pursued & IAF have to make do with Mk IA (Read Diplomat Report)

Final operational clearance for Tejas again delayed till next year - The Times of India

Regardless of all Good Luck !

 

[vsdave2302]

Some people may call this article as "yellow journalism"

Yes, and they are Pakistanis who always wish to hear bad of India.

 

[NHUDA]

How come in a day it becomes fighting fit ? uptill yesterday IAF telling gov its not good and blah blah blah ...

SSSShhhhhhhhhhh ... Don't u dare say tht Even in the Inner circle of IAF itself do not consider Tejas a Success Fighter Plane Story .. let alone Fighting Fit"

Otherwise kachRAW will sneak into ur account & find an invisible trail coming all the way from France ... -_-

 

[vsdave2302]

All info related to article is true and really a great achievement but still end result matter ,Your own air force is not willing to induct it .Regarding JF17 thunder has proved more than what it was meant to be .So calling other bakwas and your superior is an act of self obsession and short sighted ness.

As tjas fell short of designed criterion, rigorous aerodynamic studies were carried out. They have redesigned canopy which shall bring in 6% aerodynamic improvement which shall result in 20% hike in trans sonic acceleration and 2% hike in top speed at sea level. Weight is in the process of slashing and 800 to 1000 KG weight reduction is planned which shall push T/W ration by 15% with same engine. Wind and air intake redesign is also planned so as AESA radar. New flight control system shall also come in. LCA is in the process of emerging as a premier fighter.

 

[Providence]

As tjas fell short of designed criterion, rigorous aerodynamic studies were carried out. They have redesigned canopy which shall bring in 6% aerodynamic improvement which shall result in 20% hike in trans sonic acceleration and 2% hike in top speed at sea level. Weight is in the process of slashing and 800 to 1000 KG weight reduction is planned which shall push T/W ration by 15% with same engine. Wind and air intake redesign is also planned so as AESA radar. New flight control system shall also come in. LCA is in the process of emerging as a premier fighter.

Any time lines on those or just hot puff !

 

[volatile]

As tjas fell short of designed criterion, rigorous aerodynamic studies were carried out. They have redesigned canopy which shall bring in 6% aerodynamic improvement which shall result in 20% hike in trans sonic acceleration and 2% hike in top speed at sea level. Weight is in the process of slashing and 800 to 1000 KG weight reduction is planned which shall push T/W ration by 15% with same engine. Wind and air intake redesign is also planned so as AESA radar. New flight control system shall also come in. LCA is in the process of emerging as a premier fighter.

Sounds very promosing my question is why IAF refused to induct them .Let me tell you why .1. Corruption 2. Which is likely they understand what they will be against and it is at the end customer i.e IAF which needs to be convinced .Convincing me and any other member wont help your cause. The deficiencies you have mentioned are not some tiny twiks they appears to be linked with redesigning .If this was as simple probably US would never produce new designs .Fact is LCA is just tech demonstrator and it served its purpose well .So know you have know how other than SKDK .So relax and enjoy

 

[zebra7]

May Be If You Would have either Updated you information ..
1- Hats Off to Camouflage the 30 years of Tries & Misses & eventually Giving UP (the Engine & much More is Still not Indigenous - Kaveri is shut down)

2- the FOC for Tejas has been already postponed to 2016

3- i) Mk-II was still on Drawing board
ii) Even Best of Estimates Stated it will not become a "Reality" before 2018-19 (we are Talking TD)
iii) Recent Reports are suggesting MK-II is also not going to be pursued & IAF have to make do with Mk IA (Read Diplomat Report)

Final operational clearance for Tejas again delayed till next year - The Times of India

Regardless of all Good Luck !

1. 30 Years really ? When was the fund released leave aside fisibilty study and report making and iaf ASR aside. And how much time does the figher plane from the ground should take ? With that rule calculate the time line of FC-1 from the super sabre project planning.

2. So what 2016 or 2017, 20 lca mk1 in IOC-2 is been delivered till then whats the big FUSS when you could induct without FOC.

3. (i). MK-2 will have more powerful engine, so the fuselarge, and airintake needs redesign and validation of aerodynamic control laws with intensive flight testing. Also the EW suites electonics and mmr, sensors like IRST would be of world class notch which is been designed by DARE which takes times, you will learn that when you do it yourself someday, not ready make noodles like MAGGI 2 min instant fit from kits.
(ii) Who are the BEST to estimate that -- HAQ Musing ??
(iii) Which report pls present ? There is no MK1A, its MK1 or MK2. the modified/better and refined versions of mk1 is MK1A and its running in parallel i.e production and making it better and better with IAF inputs and removing Drags.

 

[Bratva]

just compare the spects of Tejas with pakistani jf17 , Tejas has upper hand over JF17. another thing, unlike jf17, Tejas is made of carbon composites, while jf17 has aluminium body so tejas is more stealthy.

Oh the wise one. Start comparing JF-17 with LCA. Lets see where JF-17 falls short off. Began

lol, why you are buying f-16 then and talking to buying SU??


lol . do you know even your JFT shortfalls ... into 100's ? you JFT cant even fire bullets .... it as good as trainer.

Here comes the Retard fighter with its brain farts. Dont you understand the concept of light weight fighter designed to replace light wieght aircrafts hence Pakistan buying heavy weight fighters from somewhere else ?

I wont even comment on the rest of post. You better see a psychiatrist.

 

[vsdave2302]

Sounds very promosing my question is why IAF refused to induct them .Let me tell you why .1. Corruption 2. Which is likely they understand what they will be against and it is at the end customer i.e IAF which needs to be convinced .Convincing me and any other member wont help your cause. The deficiencies you have mentioned are not some tiny twiks they appears to be linked with redesigning .If this was as simple probably US would never produce new designs .Fact is LCA is just tech demonstrator and it served its purpose well .So know you have know how other than SKDK .So relax and enjoy

May be because they have premier fighters like MKI. In late ninties, when there was a chance of conflt with pakistan, they picked up Su 30 right from CKD condition and assemble in India. As ex IAF chief P V Naik had said, We have waited a lot for tejas so we do not want a partial platform. LCA in its currunt state is a mig 21++. We awant fully tested platform. Now air refuling probe and BVR testing is left. We haope FOC by march 2016.

 

[Bratva]

This is the level of sophistication of JF-17. With Anti ship,BVR WVR missiles. Unless LCA tops that, It will remain at best at par with JF-17

P.S. Below are the BLOCK-1 JF-17. Unless someone again comes up the with magnificent logic that Block-1 cant fire this and that

 

[volatile]

May be because they have premier fighters like MKI. In late ninties, when there was a chance of conflt with pakistan, they picked up Su 30 right from CKD condition and assemble in India. As ex IAF chief P V Naik had said, We have waited a lot for tejas so we do not want a partial platform. LCA in its currunt state is a mig 21++. We awant fully tested platform. Now air refuling probe and BVR testing is left. We haope FOC by march 2016.

I think your arguments are quite Sane and i admit this coould be the first time i have seen a rational Indian over here .As Arch rival i would love to see your Air force go down .But as an Engineer i believe this bird should be given chance as by not choosing is waste of 20 + years of hard work for local tech,scientist ,Multi Billion Dollars of tax payer money .No wonder Indians think jf-17 being obsolte probably it is decent but no advance to likes of rafael and Flanker but for me building and rights of producing is more important and self reliance has its own advantage .I always remmeber WW2 where Russian crude tanks outnumbered far far superor German tanks .

 

[Leviza]

i really hope india add this as a work horse in IAF

PAF will enjoy many easy shots in future

 

[Bratva]

Yes a third generation aircraft that is assembled out of CKDs imported form China....Vs a 4th generation fighter jet designed and manufactured within the country... Debate is ridiculous.

What a magnificent brain fart. Care to elaborate what is 3rd generation in JF-17 ? you are seriously ignorant about the recent JF-17 updates. By all means continue to live in ignorant land

only 54 including 2 prototypes

As per September 2015 16-18 Block-2 has been produced, flight tested and currently flying in the skies and are being awaited to be inducted in a squadron. Production started in June 2014. So in a year. 14-16 examples were produced.

JF-17 Block-2 Update from “The Thunder City” - PAFwallpapers Blog

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

What a magnificent brain fart. Care to elaborate what is 3rd generation in JF-17 ? you are seriously ignorant about the recent JF-17 updates. By all means continue to live in ignorant land

I am surprised that none of the keyboard warriors from Pakistan has even bothered to visit this web page on PAC Kamra website.

Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Kamra - JF-17 Thunder Aircraft

Click on the above link...scroll down to Production section and read the last 2 lines... and shoot yourself for lack of effort.

 

[GURU DUTT]

This is the level of sophistication of JF-17. With Anti ship,BVR WVR missiles. Unless LCA tops that, It will remain at best at par with JF-17

P.S. Below are the BLOCK-1 JF-17. Unless someone again comes up the with magnificent logic that Block-1 cant fire this and that

LCA is already been incorportated and tested for R73, Python 5 , Derby and now I Derby ER is in process of integratioon