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I lived in xinjiang for 3 years and china 7 years what you are saying is a lie and false.
First you need to liberate kids of Pakistani streets from sexual predator, give women their due rights who are treated worst then animals, clean the mess from street (in islam cleanness is 50% of our religion and Pakistan is among the most polluted nation on this planet). We as a society have failed! Its not government's job to change people because only they can change themselves but 1diots like you want to turn blind eye and want do a bhund panga with your masters who btw is a life line for this nation.
And what have you done be it spreading awareness through social media or what not to tackle these issues which are the worst a muslim could do to another muslim.
Muslims are NUMBER ONE enemy of muslims. Change my mind.
thank u
Not only are you delusional but also a pathological liar like your hindu natural allies.Only someone low IQ would equate crimes in a country with a state initiated Nazi style holocaust on Muslims.
But not surprisingly this is the same strategy used by Hindus whenever Kashmir is brought up when they bring up Pakistan treatment of Qadyanis and gay pedophilia etc.
No i dont support oppression. I would rather worry for 220 million people and it is not "all is well for them" but "all is screwed" and then worry about 50-60 million next door when all problems are fixed.Seems like oppression supporters use the same strategy whether it's a Hindu or a Muslim.
Not only are you delusional but also a pathological liar like your hindu natural allies.
Nazi killed over 6 million jews in span of couple of years. Do you have any sources that suggests even 6,000 muslims have been killed in China in last couple of years? If no then how can you compare Nazi holocaust with Chinese? Or can any holocaust be associated with Nazi even if its only in 100s figure?
Are Muslims being persecuted in China? YES but not to the point where Pakistan without knowing their awkat start pointing fingers at their master which is the only hope that can save Pakistan and they have many times.
Also even in western world a muslim has to abide by the law. Such as they are not allowed to build mosque without permission and if they do it will get bulldozed, they are not allowed to give adan on loud speakers and if they do they will get fines, they are not allowed to halal their animal for religious sacrifice and if they do they will get arrested for animal cruelty, and how can i forget to mention that if you even just discuss jihad you can bet your @ss that you will land in jail.
Does western society give more rights its muslim citizens, residents then China? Of course yes but dont forget at the same time they have spread 100x more destruction and Fasad in muslim world.
Foreign policy is not made with your emotions but with your self interest other wise if you want to be this holy warrior then get on a horse and march and trust me you wont get further then your house street.
Learn to accept your faults and learn from it and improve yourself (not you since you have a better standard of living compared to average person).
No i dont support oppression. I would rather worry for 220 million people and it is not "all is well for them" but "all is screwed" and then worry about 50-60 million next door when all problems are fixed.
PS: btw before you accuse me of being punjabi or sindhi, i honestly dont give a fk because to me all of this is nonsense bullsh1t that was introduced by British masters who really fked this nation upside down with this segregation before leaving.
And not all tribes are meant to stay forever, as history suggest even the most pious and righteous tribes faded away with time so I dont see why useless tribes cannot be changed for good purpose.
Pakistan has no dispute with china. Our border is well defined in history since 1963 we both are in agreement.
It is only india which has a problem with both china and pakistan.
We two nations have formed alliance back in 1960s we have no claim on chinese land and our borders are well documented and agreed upon by both parties.
Pakistanis/Chinese should raise the international dispute to the UN and in the international court of justice and get our Muslim Shia region free from Indian illegal Occupation, which is since 1947 a disputed territory.
How can you say Pakistan has no dispute with China?
China has said this on many occasions that Kashmir is a trilateral dispute between China-India-Pakistan now that China is holding its grounds in Laddakh at Finger 4 (The previous holding was Finger 8) how can we happily accept that? Just because they have bashed the Indian army out of their forcefully acquired territory doesn't mean we should be happy! The reason being I'm saying this is if you can see the map below it is clearly seen that Laddakh is located in Jammu & Kashmir which means now we have to raise our concerns and voice against both countries no? As we all know Kashmir is an integral part of Pakistan so if we kept raising our voice against India, now that China is also there we should raise our voice against them too. If not raising voice against them at least our PM or FM spokesperson should have released an official statement in which Pakistan's perspective should've conveyed because it's a trilateral issue.
Secondly in my whole life till now I've never heard anyone raising voice or putting up their perspective for Aksai Chin, as per our Map which is being taught to every second child in Pakistan this whole area belongs to Pakistan but we never said a word for Aksai Chin.
As far as Shaksgam Valley is considered I've came to know that Pakistan has ceded this part of the territory to China as a gift, why so? I don't really find an answer yet because some senior from PDF told me about this Valley
If any of you'll say that this is not (Aksai Chin, Shkasgam Valley, Laddakh) the part of Pakistan then I think it's high time our educational system should put up a new map? or Pakistan should accept a new map in which all these areas are not part of our territory?
Official map of Pakistan as for now:
The second map shows Aksai Chin as part of Pakistan too, don't know if it's official or not but in our textbooks we are teaching our children a different map and we are not claiming that part officially now!
For me, this is Pakistan's territory and we have to raise our voice or put up our opinions in front of everyone either our enemy or our friend. We should claim our parts just like Nepal is claiming now? a small country which was not even considered as someone who will one day stand in front of India but today "Nepal's parliament passes the New Map bill unanimously. The New Map is part of Nepal's law." Yesterday "1 dead 4 injured near India Nepal border after Nepali police opened fire on illegal border entry from the Indian side. The incident happened at around 8:30 am to 8:45 am. There are also unconfirmed reports of the Nepali Army targeting Indian border post." This is how one can claim its territory!
What we do is just talks "Hum bahadur shah zafar nahi tipu sultan ban jaengay, hum aisay kar lengay hum wese kar lengay, kab karengay?"
What then? asking/requesting China to go back from Laddakh and give the J&K disputed territory to us?
Till now which issue is being resolved by the UN significantly on the basis of dialogue? That was one of the funniest things I've read here, going to UN for dispute lol!
UN is basically backed by/influenced by the superpower country and its alliance so no matter what the disputes like Palestine, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Kashmir will remain either the way they are or if somebody could fight a war and win it as a reward.
I can say this because i saw 1963 agreed upon border photos. There is no dispute and perfect understanding.
PTM? India only showed them a bone and they all go running after their master.Yeah right, i am the delusional one. When did Hindu become national allies of Pakistan?
Nazism is an ideology. Hitler believed in eugenics, Han Chinese believe in eugenics which is why they have purged or to the point of extinction dominated other races in China and China is big yet only one race dominates?
Those camps are educational camps that every pakistani needs to attend so they can be bit more productive and maybe they might become useful. But you would rather chose to go to bacha bazi academy then be educated.Nazis put Jews in concentration camps. Chinese put Muslims in concentration camps.
In that video did you see CCP talking about destroying and killing millions of Muslims world wide? In that video did you see them making plans to invade and murder millions of Pakistanis? Because what I see is them helping Muslim countries around the world building schools, dams, industries, road/railway network, science and technology, IT, ports, and the list goes on and on. Because the video I saw of Nazi not only did they talk about destruction but they in fact also caused 85 million death.There was a video showing Nazi propaganda videos, it was exactly similar to CCP propaganda videos.
Fact check: organ harvesting, rape, murder, torture, are done A LOT more in Pakistan by Pakistanis on Pakistanis then it is done on Chinese Muslims by Han race.Nazis tortured and murdered and experimented and raped Jews in concentration camps. Chinese torture and murder and rape and harvest organs and do all kinds of things Nazis did or even worse.
kiya kahon mai tujha ab.People like you exist to this day who deny the holocaust. And there must have been people who denied it at Hitler time.
So are you suggesting a good muslim and a society is one which lives in dark?This is what these enemies of Islam believe as well but reality is different. A Muslim believes in Allah while a Kafir believes in shiny worldly things.
Umar ibn al-Khattaab (radee Allaahu ‘anhu) sent an army under Sa’d bin Abi Waqqas (radee Allaahu ‘anhu) for the conquest of Persia.
‘Umar (radee Allaahu ‘anhu) wrote him a convention as follows:
“I command you and your army to fear Allaah at all times because piety is the best weapon against the enemy and the best strategy in the battle.
And I command you and your soldiers to fear disobedience to Allaah more than you fear the enemy. If an army fears sins more than the enemy, Allaah brings them victory. Muslim victory is the outcome of the disbelievers’ disobedience of Allaah. There is no power except with Allaah for they always outnumber us and have better weapons and tools. If we become equal in disobedience, they will conquer us due to more power; and unless we defeat them by righteousness, we cannot defeat them by power."
This is the belief of our salaf(RA) and Muslims in history who built gigantic Islamic empires and were always outnumbered by enemies of Islam.
But if the policy makers think they know better than our salaf(RA) and Prophet Muhammad (saww) then i will say this
Neither do i care.You don't know my standard of living.
Low IQ? look who is talking. just look around you for a second first and then talk please.Nice try at derailing the discussion from holocaust on Muslims but like i said someone low IQ
Their is a difference between a wife preparing food for her husband with love and a compassionate relationship then a abusive relationship where husband uses his wife for sex, food, and beating. Do you think that women in your part of the world live a happy life where she enjoys a compassionate relationship? Just because they keep quite of all the domestic issue does not mean they live a happy life. Do you not think that this is not among many of the issues in your society that should be fixed for women? And no, i am not suggesting western lifestyle but a normal lifestyle that Islam suggest. You guys fallow a barbaric lifestyle while hijacking Islam.would bring up married women forced to prepare food for their husband to a serious discussion on a holocaust of Muslims. Maybe in your world, a woman preparing food for her husband is the same as a country putting millions into concentration camps, raping, torturing, organ harvesting, slavery and forcing them to turn atheists. In the world we live in, petty issues like crime in a country can not be equated to systemic purging of millions of ethnic people and religion by a country.
Trust me, If i was the leader of Pakistan the first thing i would do is toss every 220 million awan in forced education camps and grow some sense out of them.Come to me when those 220 million people are in concentration camps suffering the same fate as Uighurs.
The tribe that causes destruction in their own society.Which tribe is useless and which tribe should be changed?
Ladakah is a prime example of over 500 years of Shia Muslims and Buddhists. Infact Taxila, home of Buddha is in Pakistan, and so many other places where peace and harmony is in place.
Do you even know where Tibet is?Pakistan has no dispute with china. Our border is well defined in history since 1963 we both are in agreement.
It is only india which has a problem with both china and pakistan.
We two nations have formed alliance back in 1960s we have no claim on chinese land and our borders are well documented and agreed upon by both parties.
Me personally as a kashmiri have no problem if all buddist regions go to tibet (xizang) and all muslim regions to Pakistan and all hindu majority regions to hindu-istan.
However its not up to me its up to strategic institutions of pakistan which already have agreed in 1960s upon well defined border with china.
India is occuping chinese land in the north east of kashmir and india is occupying Pakistani land in the middile and south of Kashmir.
Lol. You aren't getting anything.Yes India and China are having issues on Ladkah. But about half of this region belongs to Pakistan. China and Pakistan need to jointly expel the diseased indians from this area and Kashmir first, and then divide Ladkah 50/50.
It wasn't. Ashoka established a University there - TakshashilaI have never heard of Taxila being the home of Bhuddha. Can you give me some links.
Interestingly found out Ladakh people though look somewhat Chinese, but all of them look like Gilgit Baltisani, as both are Muslims. Ladakh is a Muslim majority area with second highest population of Buddhist.
What British use to do was where ever British influence spread, Britain would make new maps and then under Survey of India, create it and disperse it as part of India. Since 200 years, Ladakh region is part of the disputed Jammu and Kashmir region and an internationalized disputed territory since 1947 after Pakistan and India's creation.
Yep been there once. It's called xizang. Ladakh is part of itDo you even know where Tibet is?
Lol. You aren't getting anything.
It wasn't. Ashoka established a University there - Takshashila
I accept the map of pakistan agreed upon by pakistan and china in 1963So do you accept that the map which is shown to our generation or the generation which is in school is not the actual map of Pakistan? Should Pakistan publish their new official map like Nepal?
What happened in 1963 as per you? As of my info, Pakistan ceded Shaksgam Valley and there were talks/agreements on proper boundaries etc