"Ladakh": A Disputed region between India, Pakistan & China | 47% Muslim, 39% Budhist, 12% Hindus

[Foxtrot Delta]

Pakistan has a problem with China.

Stop oppressing Uighurs or give Xinjiang to Pakistan since it's a Muslim majority province and these Hitler following Han Chinese hate Muslims.

As a Kashmiri, you should be the first to speak against oppression.

I lived in xinjiang for 3 years and china 7 years what you are saying is a lie and false.

 

[Asian.Century]

In a scathing attack on China, the Tibetan exile administration has said that the "disputed territories of both Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh" have always been a part of India, neither China or Pakistan.

The Tibetan government-in-exile, officially known as the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), has reaffirmed its support for New Delhi as the tensions continue to rise between India and China along the Line of Actual Control (LAC).

Headquartered in McLeod Ganj, Himachal Pradesh and headed by the Dalai Lama, the CTA asserted that the Sino-India border conflict will be resolved if Tibet is granted "genuine autonomy" as India actually shares its boundary with the erstwhile Tibetan state and not with China.

It was in 1950 that China's People Liberation Army (PLA) invaded Tibet and occupied it forcefully, resulting in the Dalai Lama seeking refuge in India and subsequently establishing the CTA.

Tibet endorses India's stand on Ladakh, Arunachal Pradesh

Dr Lobsang Sangay, the President of the Tibetan exile administration, said that Lhasa considers the disputed territories of both Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh to be a part of India.

"His Holiness the Dalai Lama has always made it very clear that Ladakh is a part of India. He has also maintained that the disputed Tawang in the state of Arunachal Pradesh also belongs to India," the Tibetan President told India Today.

Further, Dr Lobsang Sangay stated that China is under immense international pressure pertaining to the novel coronavirus pandemic which originated from its soil and, therefore, is indulging in a border dispute with India to diverge the attention of the other countries.

"China says Tibet is part of China, Taiwan is part of China, Arunachal is part of China, Ladakh is part of China, but coronavirus is not part of China. They are staking claim to everything but coronavirus. This is what the Chinese Communist party is capable of," the CTA leader said.

Current situation in Ladakh

In the latest development regarding the India-China standoff in Ladakh, China has made a slight retreat at Galwan Valley. While the PLA has moved back by two kilometers, the Indian Army has stepped one kilometer back.

However, the troops of both countries continue to camp at Pangong Tso lake. The military leaders of the neighboring countries will be holding another round of talks on June 6 in a bid to resolve the standoff.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/ladakh-be...ia-exposes-chinas-expansionist-tactics-821586

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/lada...as-expansionist-tactics.670268/#post-12410488

 

[The Maverick]

Guys.

You need to get out of this religious mindset dictating claims to territory,

One look at the one million man indian army we have Sikhs Hindus Moslems Christians Gurkhas bhuddists.
All fighting and defending their motherland.

Himlayers and the borders leading to Tibets China Pakistan etc are not there to redrawn because it suits other countries or their narrative or agenda.

We need to safe guard our Water supply our land and our people . And we have nuclear weapons to do this.

Indian soldiers are dieing in snowy hills for years protecting our Land.

So forget we can divide this and split this like it was a Monoply game

Hitler tried it and failed
Naploen tried and failed
You pakistanis tired in Kargil and failed
China is trying it on Taiwan Vietnam and India.

LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS and so how much you guys can take and SLIT UP between you

TALK IS CHEAP

 

[Buddhistforlife]

I doubt that.

Both Hindus and Buddhists are united when it comes to Islamophobia.

The vast majority of Buddhists support BJP in Kashmir and celebrated the Union territory status.

You are a Muslim from West Bengal and many of your posts are anti indian, anti hindu. Do you realise what will happen if hindus of West bengal get a hint of what you write in this forum?

Already muslims are seen with suspicion in West Bengal. Done blame me if a hindu vote for BJP after he finds your anti hindu and anti indian posts.


তখন‌ লুঙ্গি খুলে দৌড়াইয়া ও কুল পাবা না বুঝলা দাদা?

 

[Joe Shearer]

You are a Muslim from West Bengal and many of your posts are anti indian, anti hindu. Do you realise what will happen if hindus of West bengal get a hint of what you write in this forum?

Already muslims are seen with suspicion in West Bengal. Done blame me if a hindu vote for BJP after he finds your anti hindu and anti indian posts.


তখন‌ লুঙ্গি খুলে দৌড়াইয়া ও কুল পাবা না বুঝলা দাদা?

Ooh, that hurt.

Just to update the facts in question, Afrazul is hurling these bolts at us from Australia, where he has made a life for himself, good for him. I agree with you; he needs to get rid of the pent-up bitterness he displays.

@AfrazulMandal He is a Bengali too, it seems.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Pakistan has a problem with China.

Stop oppressing Uighurs or give Xinjiang to Pakistan since it's a Muslim majority province and these Hitler following Han Chinese hate Muslims.

As a Kashmiri, you should be the first to speak against oppression.

First you need to liberate kids of Pakistani streets from sexual predator, give women their due rights who are treated worst then animals, clean the mess from street (in islam cleanness is 50% of our religion and Pakistan is among the most polluted nation on this planet). We as a society have failed! Its not government's job to change people because only they can change themselves but 1diots like you want to turn blind eye and want do a bhund panga with your masters who btw is a life line for this nation.
And what have you done be it spreading awareness through social media or what not to tackle these issues which are the worst a muslim could do to another muslim.
Muslims are NUMBER ONE enemy of muslims. Change my mind.
thank u

 

[Asian.Century]

I have been to the second largest town of Ladakh disputed region, Kargil on Pakistani side, and what I noticed most of the people all called themselves Ladakhi speaking, and part of Ladakh, under Pakistani control.

it seems you have never visited Ladakh

Chorbat, where Pakistan Army and India face each other in Ladakh. PAF regular sorties and Shaheen excercies with China in Northern Ladakh

Exact location of Ladakh, Chorbat Valley part of Pakistan:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/C...a9f30289a88ae102!8m2!3d34.931633!4d76.7330253


PAKISTAN AND INDIA BORDER || FRANO AND THANG VILLAGE || LADAKH

 

[Crusher]

I have been to the second largest town of Ladakh disputed region, Kargil on Pakistani side, and what I noticed most of the people all called themselves Ladakhi speaking, and part of Ladakh, under Pakistani control.



Chorbat, where Pakistan Army and India face each other in Ladakh. PAF regular sorties and Shaheen excercies with China in Northern Ladakh

Exact location of Ladakh, Chorbat Valley part of Pakistan:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/C...a9f30289a88ae102!8m2!3d34.931633!4d76.7330253


PAKISTAN AND INDIA BORDER || FRANO AND THANG VILLAGE || LADAKH

Not all people living in Kargil speak Ladakhir langauge, Kargil also have significant Shina speaking population, the same language that is spoken in Pakistani Gilgit, Chilas and Astore districts of GB.
Here is Shina speaking guys from Kargil singing their local Shina dialect song.

And here Balti speaking people of Kargil, it looks to me Balti is called "Ladakhi" in Kargil because Kargil is located in Ladakh and also because Balti language has some relation whit other Ladakhi and Tibetan languages.

 

[Asian.Century]

Not all people living in Kargil speak Ladakhir langauge, Kargil also have significant Shina speaking population, the same language that is spoken in Pakistani Gilgit, Chilas and Astore districts of GB.
Here is Shina speaking guys from Kargil singing their local Shina dialect song.

That is true, the language was unable to understand, in Ladakh areas of Pakistani side where the locals spoke was Ladhaki and Balti languages.

Shina population is new one for me, could be my limited access of understanding, but Balti, and Ladakhi was sure the locals said, and there Balti-Ladakhi dialect as well.

The men who spoke with us, spoke and knew Urdu and English very well too, was a surprising factor.

Tell you one thing a surprise for me, in the Ladakh region, Ladakhi/Bhoti language the locals said, is very much spoken in Karachi and Rawalpindi regions of Pakistan also.

 

[Crusher]

That is true, the language was unable to understand, in Ladakh areas of Pakistani side where the locals spoke was Ladhaki and Balti languages.

Shina population is new one for me, could be my limited access of understanding, but Balti, and Ladakhi was sure the locals said, and there Balti-Ladakhi dialect as well.

The men who spoke with us, spoke and knew Urdu and English very well too, was a surprising factor.

Tell you one thing a surprise for me, in the Ladakh region, Ladakhi/Bhoti language the locals said, is very much spoken in Karachi and Rawalpindi regions of Pakistan also.

For some strange reasons where ever Balti speaking population is found, there is always a Sheena speaking population too.

 

[Asian.Century]

On partition / separation of the subcontinent into countries, Brigadier Ghansara Singh was appointed governor of Gilgit. The people of Gilgit never accepted the authority of the governor and on the night of 31 October 1947, Gilgit Scouts under the command captain Babar Khan surrounded his residence. In the morning hours of 1 November 1947, the governor surrendered. On 1 November 1947, the Dogra flag was pulled down and Pakistani flag was raised and Gilgit was proclaimed to be a part of Pakistan. After liberation of Gilgit, Bunji and Chilas, a decision was made to liberate Skardu from the occupation of Dogra forces. The liberation forces comprised the Gilgit Scouts, Muslims troops of the 6th J&K battalion and volunteers from different areas. These were further augmented by the force from Chitral led by Colonel Matta-ul-Muluk, Major Ghulam Mohiuddin and personnel from Chitral Scouts. These forces were organised into three wings.

For some strange reasons where ever Balti speaking population is found, there is always a Sheena speaking population too.

Ali Sher Khan Anchan ruled Baltistan and expanded his frontiers to Ladakh, western Tibet and up to Chitral and Ghizer. He was the one who conquered Ladakh and introduced Balti culture and language to Kargil and Dras. The famous Kharphocho fort of Skardu was constructed during his rule.

 

[Crusher]

On partition / separation of the subcontinent into countries, Brigadier Ghansara Singh was appointed governor of Gilgit. The people of Gilgit never accepted the authority of the governor and on the night of 31 October 1947, Gilgit Scouts under the command captain Babar Khan surrounded his residence. In the morning hours of 1 November 1947, the governor surrendered. On 1 November 1947, the Dogra flag was pulled down and Pakistani flag was raised and Gilgit was proclaimed to be a part of Pakistan. After liberation of Gilgit, Bunji and Chilas, a decision was made to liberate Skardu from the occupation of Dogra forces. The liberation forces comprised the Gilgit Scouts, Muslims troops of the 6th J&K battalion and volunteers from different areas. These were further augmented by the force from Chitral led by Colonel Matta-ul-Muluk, Major Ghulam Mohiuddin and personnel from Chitral Scouts. These forces were organised into three wings.




Ali Sher Khan Anchan ruled Baltistan and expanded his frontiers to Ladakh, western Tibet and up to Chitral and Ghizer. He was the one who conquered Ladakh and introduced Balti culture and language to Kargil and Dras. The famous Kharphocho fort of Skardu was constructed during his rule.

Then these Sheena speakers could have been descendants of the soldiers from GB area during that time.

 

[Imad.Khan]

pakistan born in 1947 and not sure, how it became part of Pakistan as per the history.

Just because this region changed its name to Pakistan, that doesn't wipe out the history of the region.

Even I am also confused with the Identity of Pakistani's.

atleast you accepted that you are the confused one, We Pakistanis have no confusion.

 

[M.Bison]

I guess general Panag wasn't wrong after all..

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Not all people living in Kargil speak Ladakhir langauge, Kargil also have significant Shina speaking population, the same language that is spoken in Pakistani Gilgit, Chilas and Astore districts of GB.
Here is Shina speaking guys from Kargil singing their local Shina dialect song.

And here Balti speaking people of Kargil, it looks to me Balti is called "Ladakhi" in Kargil because Kargil is located in Ladakh and also because Balti language has some relation whit other Ladakhi and Tibetan languages.

Thank you so much for this lovely post and sharing these videos. I have a deep appreciation for the unique cultures of Northern Pakistan, it is a very different region from anywhere else in the world. You have people like in Hunza who are ancient Indo-Aryans, isolated from their neighbors for centuries. Then you have a very unique Gilgit and Balti culture, which is similar to Tibet and Uyghurs. Kashmiri Dardic language of Koshur. This is an ancient crucible of history. Traditions and heritage kept intact through time.

Ma sha Allah.