Kurulus Osman fans

[Moonlight]

Zindagi Gulzaar hai aur Humsafar.
Meri phuphi pagal ho gayi si humsafar dai pichai.

ache hain best nahi

—-

https://www.historicales.com/kurulus-osman-with-english-subtitle-dirilis-osman/

try this one

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Try searching on Netflix.

I will, thanks. Actually I've heard about a Pakistani F-16 movie in this video before. avd3ChRqdLg

 

[M.AsfandYar]

I will, thanks. Actually I've heard about a Pakistani F-16 movie in this video before. avd3ChRqdLg

Dont like those. Too many Bollywood influences.

 

[Moonlight]

Dont like those. Too many Bollywood influences.

I wasn’t even impressed with the trailer.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

I wasn’t even impressed with the trailer.

Actually we have a movie like that too. I think you guys will LOVE this movie. This movie actually got me interested in aviation and military. So, it's guaranteed you will love this. If you guys want, I can find it with eng. subtites as well.

 

[dani92]

No it’s just waste of time specially when they use fiction and nationalism.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

If you don't worship Ataturk like some do....then you'll be open to debate about his intentions?

While I do agree with you that Mustafa Kemal did great things for modern day Turkey....he also quashed the spirituality of the Turks by enacting secular ideas.

Not only did he bring secularism into socio-politics of modern day Turkey, he also clamped down hard on Islam in Turkey. No hijabs, forceful banning of hijabs, doing the Adhan & the prayer in Turkish instead of Arabic, abolished the Khilafa, removed the role of the Grand Mufti and more...

You also have to realize what the above and unmentioned actions of Mustafa Kemal did to the future of the Anatolian Turks....I'm sure you have seen the rise in Pan-Turkism and the rise of paganism, animism and other older religions under the guise of Pan-Turkism.

And if you're open to having a historical review, watch the below 10 min video:

Nothing is as it appears, my dear friend. Ataturk's much talked about and touted secularism was only in public and political life, privately he was a devoted Muslim. He popularized the Turkish translation of the Quran so that normal Turks could understand the meaning rather than read without knowing.

He was burnt from Arab betrayal, so he tried to move Turkish society in the direction toward modernization and away from Arab/clergy toxic influence and stagnation. Hijab ban came after the 1980 coup and was not the result of Ataturk.

Khilafat was long gone before Ataturk, our blessed Khalifah was an prisoner in his own home, controlled totally by the British and French, who forced him to cede more Muslim lands to Kuffar day by day. Turks watched helplessly as foreign forces divided up Anatolia amongst them. Ataturk was the Gazi whom we needed at the time, fresh from Gallipolli (Çanakkale,) he rallied Turks against the invaders and drove them out of the Turkish homeland.

Khalifah and Mufti e Azam were a relic of the past and had to be let go to build a new country and fight back against the Kuffar forces.

Some of us Pakistanis also believe in Pan-Turkism brother. Why should not Turks around the world be part of one nation? it just makes logical sense. Don't forget that some of us are Turks too. It is analogous to how some of us Pakistanis want to merge with Afghanistan.

Finally, Yasir Qazi (Qadhi) is a CIA asset. I love his historical lectures on seerah and the sahabah, but whenever he talks about politics or modern events, I tune him out.

Thanks for the welcome. Actually It would take too long for me to write everything in here but you can read my introduction thread.
Hi, a newbie here
I'm not a strict-Ataturk supporter; I'm not a Kemalist but rather a ''Ataturkcu''. ''Kemalist'' people think they are being an-Ataturk supporter with drinking beers and having tattoos. But the '' Ataturkcu'' people try to understand the struggles and the ideas of Ataturk and his brother-in-arms (as you can read a very basic summary of them in my signature) who saved a nation from a nightmare. I'm not stuck in ideologies and defending persons like the most of Turkish population, I'd rather to care about seeing a strong Turkey. This means I'm neither pro-government(Erdogan/AKP) nor the opposition (CHP). You might have thought that I was a Ataturk-worshipper and anti-Erdogan and the Ottoman Empire. But as you can see I have an Ottoman general who defended the mecca in the Great War as my pp. Anyway, this could go on for pages and I'm sure we will have time to discuss these. Thanks for the welcome.

My brother, I try to stay neutral and judge someone by what they write. Everything which you wrote is quite sensible and logical. I am sorry that your welcome here has been so bad.

@Itachi is a friend and good guy, but he can be rather blunt and in your face. If it makes you feel any better, he has caused untold suffering on Chinese members for his strong stance on the Uyghur issue.

I think he is not as forceful as he lets on. I know in Turkey criticizing Ataturk is a big deal, similar to Quaid e Azam in Pakistan. The two were actually quite similar.

By the way brother, do you know any good books in English I can read about Ataturk's life from a Turkish perspective?

Brothers (and sisters @Moonlight ), I swear to God you guys are watching more Turkish shows than I am. It might be possible you'd turned out to be a better Turkish speakers than I am if we had a tournament in here

I am into Urdu/Dari poetry of Allama Iqbal, Rumi, and others. I also have some knowledge of Bediuzzaman Said Nursi and Mehmet Akif Ersoy. Having that knowledge of religious philosophical concepts came in handy when they discussed more obtuse topics in Ertugrul. I also watched Yunus Emre, which was a even more spiritual and complicated. I really enjoyed how they tied Islamic topics to political events and life lessons in those stories. The personality they portrayed of Ertugrul as an unmovable, pious, strong leader was analogous to the ideal Muslim (Mu'min.)

I have a decent knowledge of Farsi, and I realized just how common Turkish was to Urdu due to the same Farsi influence. Just learning a few words of sentence structure, etc. , I could use my knowledge of Farsi and Urdu to understand Turkish. it shocked me. Sometimes I turned off subtitles as they were totally wrong and portrayed the wrong meaning.

It seems like you guys watch a lot of Turkish shows. Why not the opposite then? Can you guys give any recommendations of Pakistani tv series with Eng. subtitles?

Watch the movie Jinnah, it is in English and stars Christoper Lee, but it is a great film about the founder of Pakistan and what challenges were made to build it.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Nothing is as it appears, my dear friend. Ataturk's much talked about and touted secularism was only in public and political life, privately he was a devoted Muslim. He popularized the Turkish translation of the Quran so that normal Turks could understand the meaning rather than read without knowing.

He was burnt from Arab betrayal, so he tried to move Turkish society in the direction toward modernization and away from Arab/clergy toxic influence and stagnation. Hijab ban came after the 1980 coup and was not the result of Ataturk.

Khilafat was long gone before Ataturk, our blessed Khalifah was an prisoner in his own home, controlled totally by the British and French, who forced him to cede more Muslim lands to Kuffar day by day. Turks watched helplessly as foreign forces divided up Anatolia amongst them. Ataturk was the Gazi whom we needed at the time, fresh from Gallipolli (Çanakkale,) he rallied Turks against the invaders and drove them out of the Turkish homeland.

Khalifah and Mufti e Azam were a relic of the past and had to be let go to build a new country and fight back against the Kuffar forces.

Some of us Pakistanis also believe in Pan-Turkism brother. Why should not Turks around the world be part of one nation? it just makes logical sense. Don't forget that some of us are Turks too. It is analogous to how some of us Pakistanis want to merge with Afghanistan.

Finally, Yasir Qazi (Qadhi) is a CIA asset. I love his historical lectures on seerah and the sahabah, but whenever he talks about politics or modern events, I tune him out.



My brother, I try to stay neutral and judge someone by what they write. Everything which you wrote is quite sensible and logical. I am sorry that your welcome here has been so bad.

@Itachi is a friend and good guy, but he can be rather blunt and in your face. If it makes you feel any better, he has caused untold suffering on Chinese members for his strong stance on the Uyghur issue.

I think he is not as forceful as he lets on. I know in Turkey criticizing Ataturk is a big deal, similar to Quaid e Azam in Pakistan. The two were actually quite similar.

By the way brother, do you know any good books in English I can read about Ataturk's life from a Turkish perspective?

I will try to find some for you, if not I will try to inform you about him, thanks for investigating first regarless of what happened. What's done is already done, lets move forward. It's right that people were not able to criticize Ataturk between 60s to 80s, but not so much in the last 20 years. It's now forbidden to criticize Erdogan instead. I'm not a far-right secularist, I actually come from somewhat-religious family as well, but I never hesitate to spill the beans out of my mouth and that's why I am bad at entrances and sometimes i can give a bad expression to others I actually like both The Ottoman Empire and the Republic equally, as they are both Turkish states just like the Selcuks and the Gokturks. Actually I used to think that Ataturk was overrated as well, but my opinion started to change after every new informations about him. And when it comes to Ataturk, he's not a qafir, he actually had good intentions and you can find good words of him about Islam and religion. Anyway, really thanks for not judging me right away. I will inform you if I can find your books

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I will try to find some for you, if not I will try to inform you about him, thanks for investigating first regarless of what happened. What's done is already done, lets move forward. It's right that people were not able to criticize Ataturk between 60s to 80s, but not so much in the last 20 years. It's now forbidden to criticize Erdogan instead. I'm not a far-right secularist, I actually come from somewhat-religious family as well, but I never hesitate to spill the beans out of my mouth and that's why I am bad at entrances and sometimes i can give a bad expression to others I actually like both The Ottoman Empire and the Republic equally, as they are both Turkish states just like the Selcuks and the Gokturks. Actually I used to think that Ataturk was overrated as well, but my opinion started to change after every new informations about him. And when it comes to Ataturk, he's not a qafir, he actually had good intentions and you can find good words of him about Islam and religion. Anyway, really thanks for not judging me right away. I will inform you if I can find your books

I grew up in both Pakistan and US, I listened to everyone having strange opinions and viewpoints about founding of Pakistan and Quaid e Azam, so I did my own research and I came to the conclusion that everyone of his detractors were absolutely wrong. He was a pious and righteous man who deeply cared for Muslims and Islam. He did not want to see Hindus erase it, and suffered every trial to gain us freedom. What we did to deserve such a leader, I do not know. Allah swt is merciful.

I view Ataturk Gazi in the same way. Allah swt sends the heroes who He chooses, not the ones you want. We got two clean-shaven, Western educated, Western dressed warriors of Islam. Subhan Allah. Yet in their heart was absolute gold, they put their lives on the line and their reputation on the cutting board for the sake of the Muslims.

 

[Clearly]

That's true. For ex. I am sure Dirilis Ertugrul is quite famous too, but the only informations we have about him doesn't even fill a page.

thats a revelation to me. I must commend the makers for making such a thorough series despite having limited account of events.

Engin altan who played Ertugrul is a fine fine actor. Other Turkish shows I have seen also have such great actors. Your country is full of talent! (Y)

 

[dani92]

I grew up in both Pakistan and US, I listened to everyone having strange opinions and viewpoints about founding of Pakistan and Quaid e Azam, so I did my own research and I came to the conclusion that everyone of his detractors were absolutely wrong. He was a pious and righteous man who deeply cared for Muslims and Islam. He did not want to see Hindus erase it, and suffered every trial to gain us freedom. What we did to deserve such a leader, I do not know. Allah swt is merciful.

I view Ataturk Gazi in the same way. Allah swt sends the heroes who He chooses, not the ones you want. We got two clean-shaven, Western educated, Western dressed warriors of Islam. Subhan Allah. Yet in their heart was absolute gold, they put their lives on the line and their reputation on the cutting board for the sake of the Muslims.

Ataturk was clearly not Muslim but it’s not surprising an erdogan worshiper like you will even make ataturk one of the rashidun caliphs
@OsmanAli98

I know I will trigger many AKP-fans but those series are used as a drug for AKP-voter ummah fans to make them think the Ottoman Empire in it's decline was the strongest state in the World.

I remember seeing a scene from Payitaht: Abdulhamid while trying to search for something to watch. The Sultan was shouting to an ambassador-I think he was English- and making big words to him like '' I won't give these lands which my ancestors gave their lives for it'' but in reality he gave away all of N.Africa except Libya, half of the lands in the Balkans and the Cyprus LMAO

Such tv shows made to brain wash the Arabs and islamists they say abdulhamid refuses to give Palestine to the Jews even though there was many settlements in Palestine during his era.

 

[Clearly]

Dont like those. Too many Bollywood influences.

How about Parwaaz hai Junoon? I have not seen many unless its uploaded on netflix/amazon prime.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

thats a revelation to me. I must commend the makers for making such a thorough series despite having limited account of events.

Engin altan who played Ertugrul is a fine fine actor. Other Turkish shows I have seen also have such great actors. Your country is full of talent! (Y)

He actually has a big role in this wonderful movie. I highly suggest you guys, you should watch this movie, it's the Turkish version of Top Gun

Actually we have a movie like that too. I think you guys will LOVE this movie. This movie actually got me interested in aviation and military. So, it's guaranteed you will love this. If you guys want, I can find it with eng. subtites as well.

 

[M.AsfandYar]

How about Parwaaz hai Junoon? I have not seen many unless its uploaded on netflix/amazon prime.

Havent seen anyof these. Just trailers. As i said too much influence from east.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Its bajjum

avit
Ay wallah
Bey
Gardish
Intaqam (it’s in Urdu too same meaning)
Haide Haide
San merkhat ma
Aana
Tamam
Hathun

Tashkur.

btw call me sister ;D

"tesukkur"

It's actually very funny and cute at the same time to see foreigners try to write the Turkish words with their own spellings You guys made my day in these diffucult times, thanks